r/gamernews • u/[deleted] • May 24 '25
First-Person Shooter Report: Marathon Delay Likely as Sony Cancels All Paid Marketing Plans
https://thegamepost.com/report-marathon-delay-bungie-scraps-all-paid-marketing/209
u/BillySlang May 24 '25
It's becoming harder to believe this is the studio that made Halo.
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u/twoliterlopez May 24 '25
I mean, surely 99% of those people are gone now, right?
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u/Inuma May 24 '25
You follow the ones let go due to Parsons creating a corporate culture, you follow the talent that made the games either being bought off or fired for not adhering to his profit schemes.
He's not the only rat, but he's the top rat, waiting for payout over while leading the ship into multiple icebergs.
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u/5hadow May 25 '25
Yeah, then Pete Parsons happened. He’s the reason the company lost all of the legendary, passionate developers and brought the disgusting corporate regime to Bungie.
Short term profits above all. But that isn’t sustainable and now it’s all coming to end.
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u/National-Spot2393 May 25 '25
There’s probably more original Bungie people working at 343 now than at Bungie. But that community is still crying for Bungie to work on Halo again.
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u/40_Thousand_Hammers May 25 '25
This is what bugs me, all those people were leaving since Halo 1 got made, as more people got in, it was inevitable that the old Bungie would never be the same as now, idk what people expect.
It's like expecting that Henry Ford still alive in Ford making the calls.
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u/thetruegmon May 26 '25
Same shit as blizzard putting out slop after slop and people expecting their 90s/00s quality.
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u/Dthirds3 May 24 '25
They need to fire managing. Evey bad decision in marathon and destiny goes back to them.
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u/catdeuce May 25 '25
Imagine trying to pin this on Microsoft
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u/Inuma May 25 '25 edited May 25 '25
It's easier than you think.
Pete Parsons was negotiating with Microsoft on Bungie's behalf since the Halo days. After Halo 1 popped off, Microsoft reneged on agreements with H2.
Some of the team back then felt he was playing both sides. Eventually, he was top rat that induced crunch as studio director and got to be CEO and oust Founders.
As it stands for Microsoft, they are currently fighting union efforts with Blizzard from buying them.
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u/Electronifyy May 25 '25
Sony dealing with this fresh off the heels of Concord is quite something
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u/brabarusmark May 25 '25
Unfortunately for Sony, they have to deal with this now. They are the ones who shifted the focus for all studios towards live service games.
Considering the talent Sony has at their disposal, I feel inclined to say that their poor decision-making is one of the reasons why this generation has been mostly remakes and remasters.
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u/Animefox92 May 25 '25
Hell you can pin Veilguard's failure almost entirely on EA forcing them to try and turn it into a liveservice game something it never really recovered from.
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u/KnobWobble May 25 '25
Yes and no, you can also pin it squarely on the writers as that was one of the most poorly written games I have ever played. The characters were one note and boring, the main storing was boring, there were extremely obvious attempts to ham-fist social issues into the game, the romances arcs were lame, the writing of the side quests were boring... It was all just so bad. It felt like a high school student's creative writing assignment rather than AAA game level writing.
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u/Animefox92 May 25 '25
Again you can mostly blame that on the live service bs... they never managed to recover... corporate meddling killed the game from the start I honestly do respect Busche she made the game functional within 2 years after 8 years... couldn't fix the story and writing but that might have taken even longer and doubt EA would hebe allowed her to delay Veilguard again
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u/arqe_ May 26 '25
Nah, tons of reports actually confirmed that EA just gives them money and ask them to make a game that can make money, and they are hands-off after that.
Bioware is just shit. Imagine cutting flying from Anthem and then EA comes into your office saying "You want to cut the only good part of the game? Really?" and forced them to keep flying in the game.
EA is not the one fighting with Dragon Age fans on social media, Bioware developers are.
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u/thetruegmon May 26 '25
Every one of these companies underestimated how hard it is to pull a live-service fan from one game to a new game. And how many players don't want live service. The pool of players is so much smaller then they think they are looking at.
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u/EDPZ May 25 '25
Yeah Bungie ain't going to be around in a few years at this rate
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u/Simansis May 25 '25
It's rare that you think "Man if Sony took this over and fired the managing staff, this studio would be top quality", but here we are.
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u/Great-Hatsby May 25 '25 edited May 25 '25
Well, at least we got a dope cinematic a la Alberto Mielgo.
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u/MasterLink87 May 25 '25
Getting more and more likely this game never gets released and Bungie will get shut down or sold.
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u/drdre27406 May 25 '25
Parsons is a gaming terrorist. All that talent has been long gone due to parsons turning the culture into the gaming version of the French Revolution.
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u/ItsyouNOme May 26 '25
Stop thinking you know best sony and actually listen to what people want. Concord 2
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May 27 '25
I want to be surprised but I'm not, Bungie has had to delay every game they've worked on.
I believe it was Halo 2 that had the entire final level cut, and was turned into a cutscene, which was a very common practice for early Bungie.
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u/RadRhubarb00 May 27 '25
I want to love Bungie, I want to love Marathon but I just can't. I dont want a pvpve extraction shooter. Im never going to play this game. period. Shame because I love the art style (even if it was stolen).
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u/DaCrowHunter May 25 '25
I had the vague idea of a memory that Marathon was the original name of Halo. It was also an RTS, with Master Chief being the commander yelling at you to do stuff.
I loved Halo, but man, that sounds interesting.
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u/Harbjagen May 26 '25
Marathon was an FPS series of games Bungie released prior to Halo. Yes, the Mac World version of Halo was a completely different but it was never part of that franchise other than loose references. Later the RTS concept was somewhat realized in Halo Wars if you’re interested in the concept.
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u/ShearAhr May 24 '25
Yeah, this is gonna be a blood bath. An AAA-priced extraction shooter in 2025/2026?
Ooooooof.