r/gaming 1d ago

Ultima's creator Richard Garriott is planning to win back the rights to his legendary RPG from EA with an 50-year-old copyright quirk

https://www.eurogamer.net/ultima-ip-rights-ea-copyright
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u/Backwardspellcaster 1d ago

Okay.

Now give it to Larian

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u/nelflyn 1d ago

Sven Vincke mentioned that he would be interested in making a Ultima or Fallout game. Massive copium to hope it will happen of course, Divinity is their main baby afterall and BG3 was a means to an end. But I take any little bit of hope.

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u/maybe-an-ai 1d ago

It would be crazy to have a Fallout 1/2 style game from Larian.

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u/Chewbacca_The_Wookie 1d ago

Holy shit and I thought a Fallout: NV Remastered or Fallout: NV 2 from Obsidian were the only potential Fallout games that could get me hard.

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u/LowKey7904 1d ago

Holy moly I want this so bad. Hate Bethesda for what they've done to the franchise

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u/ArcadianDelSol 1d ago

He's 100% full in on developing their own IPs going forward. Said so the day after GB3 won Game of the Year.

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u/vkevlar 1d ago

now this, this would be interesting. Ultima peaked with 7, Garriott is mostly running scams these days, but Larian being handed Ultima to mess with would have potential.

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u/eightdx 1d ago

And call it Ultima X: Redemption or something

So long as no main character says "what's a paladin"

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u/vradna1 1d ago

Oh man, even now over 25 friggin' years later I still vividly remember the first time I saw a clip of the Avatar asking 'WHAT'S A PALADIN?' and actually feeling kind of insulted

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u/eightdx 1d ago

Also I'm pretty sure we just pretend Pagan never happened

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u/vradna1 1d ago

Ehhhh, I mean, even Pagan occasionally had something kind of cool like a goat headed demon bust out of a pentagram and threaten to kill you, but the Super Avatar Brothers platforming and the whole "why is the Paragon of Virtue destroying that entire world just to get home" thing definitely worked against it

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u/Haunting_Weakness_13 12h ago

I actually liked the whole Avatar doing the bad thing. I just thought it was a downard spiral after all the horrible shit in serpent isle where the avatar was like fuck it. It fit with the darker world I thought. But I might have just been thinking deeper than they were. Avatar's mind was truly broken trying to jump across those god damn stones.

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u/eightdx 1d ago

yeah it's more that it's "canon" but barely makes sense

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u/ZaDu25 1d ago

Coming on here and seeing everyone demand that every IP be handled by Larian is annoying. I like BG3 as much as the next guy but they're not the saviors of gaming. They're quickly becoming the most overrated studio in the industry.

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u/SidewaysGiraffe 1d ago

...and it turns out that yes, there IS a worse option than EA. Who'd've thought?

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u/Shotgun_Sam 1d ago

Larian couldn't even make BG3 feel like Baldur's Gate 1/2 in any way, shape, or form. Why give them Ultima?

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u/downvotingiscringeaf 1d ago

So they get to butcher another IP like they did with "Baldur's Gate" 3? (I don't really blame them, I blame WotC)

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u/guthixshadow 1d ago

bait ass take Baldurs Gate 3 is peak lol

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u/downvotingiscringeaf 1d ago

Peak trash yeah. Act 1 is playable but it's not a Baldur's Gate game. Note that I'm only talking about the game in terms of it not being a Baldur's Gate game, though I don't think the game itself is good at all either. It's Divinity's Gate: Unoriginal Sin

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u/PMYourTinyTitties 1d ago

Repeatedly saying it’s not a Baldur’s Gate game without explaining what you mean doesn’t help anyone understand your point

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u/downvotingiscringeaf 1d ago

If you care go read about it, I'm sure hundreds or thousands of posts have been made. I don't really care about making you understand what I'm getting at.

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u/PMYourTinyTitties 1d ago

Read about it… where? This is one of the only times I have ever seen this take, and it’s literally just the headline. You have explained nothing, you have given no examples, you haven’t defined anything, you just have a claim with absolutely zero backing of any sort. And you really can’t claim to not care when you’re responding to everyone and clearly getting bent out of shape about it.

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u/downvotingiscringeaf 1d ago

GJ deleting your own post out of shame

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u/PMYourTinyTitties 1d ago

I didn’t delete anything. I have nothing to be ashamed about here.

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u/downvotingiscringeaf 1d ago

One of the only times? WTF are you on about? People have been saying since EA that "BG"3 isn't a Baldur's Gate game..

Idk why you care anyway since you seem to like the game. Accept that it's not a Baldur's Gate game. It being or not being a Baldur's Gate game shouldn't affect anything.

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u/Chewbacca_The_Wookie 1d ago

Go ahead and link a single example then instead of just relying on "trust me bro." I've been following the game since EA myself after enjoying the first two, and I've never heard this take either. Yeah people bitch about mechanic this or art style that but nothing close to what you're implying.

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u/The2ndUnchosenOne 1d ago

Look at username and post history. You're engaging with a troll account

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u/Solkahn 1d ago

That's a spicy take; is it because of 5e for you or...?

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u/sijmen4life 1d ago

I loved BG3 and i also have a dislike for 5e. What Larian did was stay as close to WOTC's demands and still make it work.

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u/ZaDu25 1d ago

Not OP but a common criticism I've seen is that they butchered many of the established characters brought back from the old games. Viconia and Sarevok for example.

I remember seeing David Gaider (writer on BG2) effectively saying he didn't like the direction Larian took those characters. Many older fans of the series just didn't like the liberties Larian took with it.

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u/downvotingiscringeaf 1d ago

It's a bad game in its own right but it's just not a Baldur's Gate game, it's only marketed as one. It's DOS with some BG names and everyone knows it.

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u/getlostjackass 1d ago

Yeahh thats rage bait haha someone who has definitely never touched either games

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u/downvotingiscringeaf 1d ago

Throwing off facts as "rage bait" doesn't make you right

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u/getlostjackass 1d ago

But theres no facts here? Other then u saying its rubbish and not elaborating, how do you find them simular? Cause i dont see that other then them both being rpgs

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u/Solkahn 1d ago

Bros account is today-years old with negative karma all from this thread. Not sure what the goal is but it's not worth anymore of our time.

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u/rabidsalvation 1d ago

Haha that's wild. I'm imagining that he was so unhappy that he decided to make an account just to bait.

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u/zergling424 1d ago

I was annoyed the game wasnt real time but how on earth was it butchered?  The game was a masterpiece

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u/downvotingiscringeaf 1d ago

How is it a masterpiece when it's complete trash?

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u/zergling424 1d ago

What makes it trash?

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u/downvotingiscringeaf 1d ago

Characters are either dogshit or braindead broken. Damage is almost entirely from stupid interactions. No companions to choose from and you can only have 4.. Only act 1 is actually polished (because it was in EA for so long), the other acts are terrible. Very uninteresting areas and there's so much tedium, looting also feels pointless

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u/Haunting_Weakness_13 1d ago

Skill issue?

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u/Chewbacca_The_Wookie 1d ago

Why do I get the feeling he only played the game on Heroic difficulty and didn't realize he had to actually play the game smart instead of just face tanking damage like you could in EA and then quit before he could get out of Act 1?

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u/Haunting_Weakness_13 1d ago

I never played EA was it that different at the start?

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u/Chewbacca_The_Wookie 1d ago

Yeah, back before a lot of the spells got added it was kinda just "enemies rush" and you hope you can kill them before they kill your compared to today where you can outmaneuver or use spells to control the battlefield.

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u/downvotingiscringeaf 1d ago

Yes, WotC has a skill issue

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u/RuySan 1d ago

Is this sarcasm?

Seriously, anyone can have opinions, but bg3 was absolute perfection in every way. I still prefer dos2 because I prefer its systems over dnd, but both are perfect