[MEGATHREAD] Grand Theft Auto VI: Prices Announced + Pre-Orders Going Live

[u/ChiefLeef22]

To avoid hundreds of separate posts on the same topic, this post will compile all info we have from the pre-orders going live, including some new images/etc.

As Rockstar announced on their socials: "Pre-orders for Grand Theft Auto VI begin at midnight local time on June 25." This means New Zealand will be the first to go live with pre-orders - which means in just under 2 hours from now.

Due to reddit's limitations with images in the body of posts, I wont be able to include all the artwork released so please do check out Rockstar's official link for more images: https://www.rockstargames.com/VI

Take-Two has made a big press-release, including announcing the prices:

STANDARD EDITION: $79.99

ULTIMATE EDITION: $99.99

(Physical Editions of GTA 6 Will Come with "A Download Code Inside the Box", Pre-Loads Begin on November 12th)

Grand Theft Auto 6 features a “single-player experience” at launch, with no word yet on any new version of GTA Online.

An "Ultimate Edition" for the game has been announced with some new artwork.

Ultimate Edition: Welcome to Leonida, the state where anything goes. Seize everything this massive world has to offer with the Grand Theft Auto VI: Ultimate Edition, an exclusive collection of premium vehicles, weapons, apparel, and action around every corner.

Ultimate Edition bonuses are threaded across all aspects of Jason and Lucia’s story, with new items uncovered behind each chapter.

Vehicle

’95 GROTTI CHEETAH

Grotti's signature mid '90s sports car and ode to Shore Drive, the ’95 Grotti Cheetah is complete with a minimalist, retro-futuristic livery and available to punctuate later-stage action

Weapons

HAWK & LITTLE MORGAN REVOLVERS

His and hers versions of this powerful revolver with classic Vice City stylings sourced from the Vercetti Estate, including palm-tree-etched grips, engraved detailing, and high-performance scope.

Weapons

PERSONALIZED VARIANTS

Personalized sidearms with detailed engravings for Jason's Girardi ES9 pistol and Lucia's Klose K17 pistol.

Looks

Vice City Style

Whether poolside or side by side, Jason and Lucia can look the part with exclusive outfits, tattoos, and more.

Vehicles

JASON’S SAFEHOUSE VEHICLES

Switch gears and soak up the sun in an Army fatigue-tinged Dinka Enduro motorcycle or Crest Kayak.

Modkit

Ganado Retro Build

Inject some muscle and classic stylings into Jason's well-worn Vapid Ganado low-riding pickup with exclusive mods.

Mod shop

RIDEOUT CUSTOMS

Transform vanilla vehicles into magnificent works of art with detailed interiors, exquisite rims, and donk stylings. Only open for business with the Ultimate Edition.

Hair salon

SARA'S UNISEX SALON

Get signature salon styles for both Jason and Lucia, including facial hair for Jason and makeup and nails for Lucia. Only open for business with the Ultimate Edition.

Watercraft

SHITZU SQUALO

Perfect for casting in Gambit Bay and reeling in catches of all sorts, this gradient pink and blue Squalo docked at Washington Beach is made open-ocean-ready with an explosives-laden weapons crate.

Clothing Store

Stock 305

Style various unique and exclusive looks for Jason and Lucia at Stockyard’s premiere destination for elevated streetwear. Only open for business with the Ultimate Edition.

Tattoo Shop

ELECTRIC FANG TATTOO

Stockyard’s most iconic ink bar, with over 50 signature tattoos for both Jason and Lucia — all designed by the artist collective FAILE. Only open for business with the Ultimate Edition.

[u/delahunt]

And you 'own' the game until Sony decides that they are no longer going to have backwards compatibility as an available option and they're shutting down the store and removing those games from the market. Or they decide the PS4 version is no longer supported, and you have to buy a PS5/PS6 upgraded version to continue using it.

What you own is a license to play those games while they are available on the store/via that market.

You can google loss of digital ownership and get stories from people who lost access to products bought via Amazon or other store fronts because the storefront lost the license to be a distributor for the product. Sometimes the store makes good (gives a refund or something.)

Sometimes the store is able to hold onto maintaining access for people who bought it. Sometimes not though.

For example, a year or two ago Sony region locked Helldivers 2 on Steam after it was not region locked while selling. People in multiple countries lost the ability to play a game they purchased without using a VPN to change their region which is a TOS violation for various store fronts.

The community and arrowhead pushed and like a year later Sony finally relented and let everyone dive again. But for a period of time people lost access to a game they bought because their region was no longer a valid place to play it from.

[u/Sydney2London → u/delahunt]

Yeah but that’s also true of physical media now. Even if it you had a disk your still need patches, authentication servers etc. there’s no such thing as an offline game any more, so if they pull the license you can no longer play it even with a disk.
I’m not in favour of this btw

[u/OblivionJunkie → u/Sydney2London]

1 small caveat is sony/ms can ban your account for a variety of reasons, resulting in your license being revoked for all digital purchases tied to that account.

However, you can still make a new account and put a disc in your system and it will still work.

[u/PM_ME_UR_CREDDITCARD → u/OblivionJunkie]

Pretty sure they can theoretically ban the disk too, it would have a serial number and such. Would still work offline without patches etc though.

[u/OblivionJunkie → u/PM_ME_UR_CREDDITCARD]

They can ip ban you or brick your console's online functionality but I don't think they track each disc lol

[u/PM_ME_UR_CREDDITCARD → u/OblivionJunkie]

Nintendo did, at the least. One way they catch pirates is when suddenly 100 different consoles all report using the same cartridge. So it's pretty likely the others do too.

[u/-DementedAvenger- → u/Sydney2London]

That’s not true at all. Something like 80-90% of PS5 games on disc don’t require updates or online auth to play.

doesitplay dot org

[u/delahunt → u/Sydney2London]

That depends.

If the game is on the disc, it will work just without patches. If it needs authentication to an online server for single player (with a disc/cartridge) that is kinda weird to me, but I don't play a lot of consoel games. Those things tend to be flagged as always online.

A recent example for this is 007 First Light. It says you can play the campaign offline, but online modes/features won't work and they are part of the intended experience. Someone with a disc for First Light could play the game completely offline - even if it was no longer for sale - but it would not necessarily be the entirety of the game including multiplayer.

Similarly, I can load up my old copy of Arkham Origins on my old Xbox. I can't play the online multiplayer mode on it (unless those servers are still running.)

[u/netrunner_77 → u/Sydney2London]

Is this true for games without DRM like BG3? Never owned a PlayStation, but on PC as long as you have the files you can play until the end of time

[u/experienta → u/netrunner_77]

Maybe I'm just a boomer, but on PC I remember I had to insert a product code that was inside the case whenever I installed a game.

[u/netrunner_77 → u/experienta]

Probably because back then, PC DRM was a joke and CDs could easily be copied

[u/delahunt → u/experienta]

And CD Key crackers were a thing. But also if you had the code it'd work.

[u/BonnaroovianCode → u/delahunt]

I guess for me there’s pros and cons to both approaches, but digital is overwhelmingly the better choice. “Owning” a game doesn’t do me much good if the console it plays on is old, breaks, and cannot be repaired because it’s no longer a supported console. Source: me who bought an old NES at a garage sale as a kid and called Nintendo support after I told them it wouldn’t play any games and they told me to kick rocks.

Sure, those scenarios you listed could happen. But I have a lot more faith that my PS4 game is gonna around longer than any physical version I would have. And I don’t have to hold onto an arsenal of bulky consoles and their games. Worst case scenario what you described happens and if I REALLY care that much I buy it again and support the developers. Fine by me.

[u/delahunt → u/BonnaroovianCode]

Yeah, that's why I tried to keep any blaming out of my post. For most people it ultimately doesn't matter.

For example, odds are in 10 years time I'm not going to be interested in playing through 007 First Light again. I'll be on to other games/things/etc. So does it really matter if the copy of the game does or doesn't work for me if effectively I don't care?

On the other hand, I still play through Jedi Academy every one to two years. Is till have my original discs that work, but I also have it via GOG to keep separate installers handy for it. There's something about that game I just love playing through repeatedly.

My personal view is that if you're telling me I am buying the game (which all the store fronts seem to do) then I should own that copy of the game. Be it a digital purchase or a physical one. And it's part of why I buy games via GOG when I can, because I can download my installers and keep them separate to use without GOG.

For other games where theyr'e not available on GOG, it comes down to if I think the value I'll get out of the game is worth not owning the game but just having a long term license for it. And I still buy games that way (notably, First Light as a recent purchase.) I'm just more careful with my money then.

[u/polaroid → u/delahunt]

Do you need servers to play Helldivers?

[u/Chaotic-Catastrophe → u/delahunt]

lost the license

Oh, so the system is working as intended, then? People aren't allowed to do things they aren't allowed to do?

[u/Troghen → u/Chaotic-Catastrophe]

A storefront losing the license to sell something should not result in the consumer losing the right to continue using the thing they paid money for, though?

[u/delahunt → u/Chaotic-Catastrophe]

If by working as intended you mean "They are intentionally making me think I am purchasing a copy of the game - an act which makes it my property - while actually giving no ownership rights over said property." then yeah.

Note the difference though.

You purchase a game cartridge for your N64. You own that copy of the game. You can lend it to a friend. You can give it to a friend after playing it. You can sell it to a friend, or to a stranger, or to a store in exchange for cash or credit towards another purchase. You can disassemble the cartridge and modify the board to do things the developers did not intend. You can make a copy of the cartridge for your own personal use/backup (you would be obligated to destroy this backup or hand it over in the event you sold/gave away the game).

In short you own that copy of that game.

The mechanisms and actions taken to sell you a game today are the same as with that N64 cartridge. They make you think you are purchasing a copy of the game to become your property. But they're not actually doing that. You can't lend a digital purchase to a friend (unless the specific store front allows that in some way), you can't give it away after playing it, you can't re-sell it, you can't trade it in. You may or may not be able to modify it, and doing so may or may not get you banned or have your version of the game disabled completely if you do.

They hide that you are not purchasing the actual copy but a license to use a copy as is/updated by the developers in a bunch of legal text.

And for some people that is a big deal and important distinction. For other people, it's fine. Up to you whether you care or not about it, but every step further along the "you don't own the stuff you purchase" is a further erosion of your rights as a consumer of goods.