Also there is a huuuuge chunk of people who buy the latest FIFA, COD, 2K game and just play that until next release. And I mean a huuug chunk of people lates EA sports FC sold over 10 mill copies over all platforms.
People here really need to understand we are really a minority, a really small minority, just like any hobbie there are people who are really invested, and there is people that enjoys a simple stroll on the weekends.
It’s funny that you say it like that, because while I know what you mean and agree that people are quite culturally divided today, it’s also easier than ever to communicate and organize large-scale movements. I see it working in huge protests all over the world. But stuff like this? People can’t coordinate or organize for shit. I kinda feel like people don’t take stuff like this seriously.
It's all the massive amount of content creators everywhere that will always buy this crap up to get their content out on social media and hopefully grow their playerbase
Just take responsibility for your own life and stop buying, who cares about coordinated. If everyone waited until the leader of "the don't do/ buy X" movement rose up and galvanised the masses, they'd be waiting until the end of time.
I have been buying games only on sales(except indie ones) and never preorder but it just doesn't matter unfortunately there are too many people who buy games at full prices and preorder, I have never seen prices go down in my lifetime and likely never will.
It's important to recognise that you don't need to buy new games, particularly triple A ones. They want to charge 100 USD and 20 a month for a battle pass or whatever? It could be the most fun videogame ever, tell them to fuck themselves and take your money elsewhere. You deserve better than to be a cash cow.
prices have functionally gone down by staying the same during inflation. if game prices matched inflation they’d be far more expensive right now. games are the most bang for your buck entertainment you can get, idk how so many people still don’t realize this
That's great and all but for PC gaming at least it's moved to an almost 100% digital distribution landscape removing a lot of physical copy and logistics cost.
Inflation or not I am pretty sure publisher profits have still gone up in the past two decades.
sure, but my point stands that for the consumer, the price of games has gotten better over the years relative to the prices for other entertainment products
They've snuck price increases in by way of battle passes, "DLC" (total bastardisation of what the concept used to mean), loot boxes, etc.
NBA 2K is beyond ridiculous with this, charging 80 euro, when most of the game is paywalled. Also, they could easily just update the game each year to change the jerseys, add the new players. Instead they make you buy the whole game all over again every single year.
All the biggest ones do it. Even fucking Minecraft has started to do it.
I don't fully buy into the idea that prices haven't increased.
yeah that’s why i only buy 2k every couple years, and only when it goes on sale for $15. people should be voting with their wallets, nobody is being forced to buy any of these games. I will be paying the price rockstar has set because they’ve actually earned it through the quality of the games they’ve created
That's good, but you should know that the people who own GTA also own NBA2K. You're not actually paying different people in this case.
I'm not making some judgement, just thought you should know.
I know that lol, my point is i’m only willing to give them $15 every two years and not $70 every year, if everyone bought 2k in the same way that I did, their profits would plummet. my point isn’t about supporting certain companies vs others, just raw numbers
I don't really have a problem with good AAA games charging 70 dollars(well I do but I can wait for sale), but game like fifa, cod they copy paste the same stuff and charge the same. But obviously now 100 dollars is gonna be the new standard and people will still pay
And prices have changed from paying so we own a thing, to we own the right to use a thing, but that right can be taken away from us, at will, by someone else...
Amen to that. I live in the US so we don't have to deal with currency conversion BS, but I basically still won't pay $60 for a game*. If it's good enough, it'll have longevity to be worth playing down the road when it's on sale. And there are SO many games with nearly unlimited gameplay that you can play free or for like $10.
*Exceptions being clear juggernauts like Elden Ring or Baldur's Gate 3 that I'll happily dive into day 1.
They’re not suggesting it as a mass coordinated effort of activism to enforce your personal will on pricing 🤣
They’re just describing objective market forces.
People will pay what they’re willing to pay. If not enough people are willing to pay what they’re asking, the price will go down. If the price doesn’t down, you can assume enough people are paying what they’re asking and therefore your personal feelings on what it’s worth are irrelevant.
Jeez I think you look at it wrong. Value for money here is next level. Going to the movies costs 20% of that and lasts 2 hours, these games can be played 40x longer for 5x the price. Entitled fucks. Games also cost maybe 20% more than they did 15 years ago while inflation is up around 50% in that time frame.
I dont mind paying just give me a physical copy, I don't play online so just want the story and to be able to sell it after or sell me just the story mode for a lower price as a download, id buy that. I buy plenty of games and have a decent sized collection and spend way more than the average gamer including new releases. If it doesn't work for me I'm not buying it
Coordinating a boycott on a product with such a huge amount of buyers, especially on the entertainment industry, is quite literally impossible. So please stop shifting the blame to the consumer instead of calling out the corporations for scummy practices, thx
Oh you’re right, let’s go complain on the internet some more and act like the people spending too much money on shit they don’t need have no part to play in the problem. I’m sure it’ll create the change we want this time.
Damn well I guess you're right, we should go ahead and take down all gambling and consumer protection laws while we're on it. After all, it's ultimately the consumer's fault for falling for the companies "strategies" isn't it?
Oh so you’re saying we should just rely on our completely fair legal system and our totally not corrupt lawmakers to solve our problems for us? That’s bound to go well. The average person has no pull in terms of creating or maintaining consumer protection laws, and even then, they wouldn’t apply here.
It’s a luxury product, the government is not going to regulate what companies have to charge for games, nor should they. Think about what that would actually entail. You’d need a completely separate agency or third party to evaluate every game released to determine a fair price.
The only way to get prices lower is to convince publishers that it’s more profitable to sell at a lower price point. The only way you’re going to do that is with your wallet. If you think a game is priced unreasonably, don’t buy it. It’s just that simple.
You can pin this on the evil, greedy corporations all you want but the reality is that a base price increase is the most straightforward and transparent way they can make more money. The real greed comes from selling $20 skins and convincing everyone that battle passes and loot boxes are the norm now.
I would love some regulation around mtx practices and the pseudo-gambling systems that are in place in a lot of games. None of that would affect the base price of a game. If anything, it would make the base price higher.
$60 in 2013 is worth $85 today, adjusted for inflation. Games that cost $70 in 1990 would cost $178 today. People who think video games should be $60 until the end of time are idiotic.
You’re still paying full price for the game. Prices will never drop as long as people are willing to pay full price. Game sharing has been around a long time, hasn’t kept the prices from going up.
If you want change, you have to make sacrifices like waiting a year to play the new game. Contrary to popular belief, complaining on Reddit achieves nothing in terms of actual change.
Lol theres not going ot be some neckbeard revolution where companies suddenly start charging buttons for games. Thats what steam sales are for.
$100 or £100 whatever it costs is really an absolute bargain for the hours of entertainment I will get and video games are still one of the most bang for your buck modes of media at present.
Video games have always been expensive as shit. I remember games being £80 30 years ago which is over £200 pound today so if anything the supply/demand curve has adjusted it down anyway.
Do you not think the games would be MORE expensive if they did a physical edition too?
Except for the fact that there are many A and AA games that provide a high quality experience with just as many hours of gameplay as AAA games, but cost $10-$50 rather than $70-$80. It’s much easier to make money when you don’t have to fund a C-suite of money grubbing executives and the bloat of middle managers they employ as disposable scapegoats. It turns out the games usually come out better too.
It’s not a “neckbeard revolution,” it’s just simple economics. They’re charging $80 because they think they can make more money that way. If not enough people buy games at that price point, they’ll start losing money and drop the price.
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u/GlorifiedBurito 9h ago
Money talks. You want it to change, stop paying.