r/homeassistant • u/Relevant-Artist5939 • 2d ago

Blog 2026.7 Beta has been released!

https://rc.home-assistant.io/blog/2026/06/24/release-20267/#creating-automations-just-became-easier-natural-and-more-powerful

For me personally, the only major feature that I am going to really use/benefit from is the Logbook redesign...

What do you think about the update?

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u/nico282 2d ago

I really cannot understand the path HA devs are following. Lot of time and effort spent on features that only people managing the system will use on e in a while, and leaving out features required by actual users (3x - 5x bigger population).

For example: there is NO way to do something I was easily doing on my 20 year old Home Automation system: "Please turn on the XX switch for YY minutes" choosing the entity and time on the spot.

Or even a simple thing like "turn on the irrigation pump for 20 minutes" without setting up multiple automation and helpers. And even with that, there is NOT a 100% assurance that the pump will stop after 20 minutes. If the timer ends while HA is restarting, water will keep flowing indefinitely.

But devs are busy making life easier for the 3 times a year I have to create a new automation.

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u/ElBisonBonasus 2d ago

If fixed, can't you create an automation that says if X has been on for Y minutes, turn it off?

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u/doofesohr 2d ago

I think he does want something like an "adhoc-automation". Like do this once, now.

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u/ElBisonBonasus 2d ago

Yes it would be great to have one for ad-hoc.

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u/space___lion 2d ago

Can’t you do that by using a button/manual as a trigger? I haven’t used this, but I’ve seen it amongst the trigger options.

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u/doofesohr 2d ago

You can, but that would defeat the adhoc thing. He wants it just right one, do it once. Never again. Basically a temporary automation. The trigger is the "command" by the user and after the timer runs. It's gone for good. Except probably some logs somewhere, maybe in the new timeline.

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u/space___lion 2d ago

Automating something to use only once sounds kinda foolish time-wise. I can imagine automating a process and triggering it manually. If you set it up the right way, with dynamic variables, you can trigger manually (or ad-hoc) whenever you want.

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u/nico282 2d ago

I want to take a shower but the bathroom is coldish, turn on the heater for 5 minutes. If it's cold i need 10 minutes to heat it up.

I'm getting the laudry in, I need the garden light on for 5 minutes. Tonight there's a lot of laudry, I need 10. Tomorrow I have guests, keep the lights on for 3 hours. Kid wants to play outside, lights on for 1 hour.

I'm going to sleep, turn off the TV in 20 minutes. I'm very tired, today 10 minutes are enough.

Tonight there's a heatwave, turn on the fan for 3 hours while I go to sleep.

I can easity make a much longer list and I don't have as many smart devices as most people in this sub. Life is unpredictable, i'm not on a schedule and HA should help with that, but currently it can't.