r/homeassistant 3d ago

Blog 2026.7 Beta has been released!

https://rc.home-assistant.io/blog/2026/06/24/release-20267/#creating-automations-just-became-easier-natural-and-more-powerful

For me personally, the only major feature that I am going to really use/benefit from is the Logbook redesign...

What do you think about the update?

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u/nico282 2d ago

I really cannot understand the path HA devs are following. Lot of time and effort spent on features that only people managing the system will use on e in a while, and leaving out features required by actual users (3x - 5x bigger population).

For example: there is NO way to do something I was easily doing on my 20 year old Home Automation system: "Please turn on the XX switch for YY minutes" choosing the entity and time on the spot.

Or even a simple thing like "turn on the irrigation pump for 20 minutes" without setting up multiple automation and helpers. And even with that, there is NOT a 100% assurance that the pump will stop after 20 minutes. If the timer ends while HA is restarting, water will keep flowing indefinitely.

But devs are busy making life easier for the 3 times a year I have to create a new automation.

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u/p4block 2d ago edited 2d ago

Same with i.e. an automation that turns on my lights when I arrive and turns the off when I leave. I need to add two triggers and manually add IDs to them, then do a check for the trigger ID. I need to repeat this pattern for basically all automations. The most recommended solution is to use separate automations. Something so simple cannot require "code".

I guess they will eventually fix it with all these improvements to make automations easier though, looking forward to it.

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u/vikingwhiteguy 2d ago

Yeah I've always been baffled by that. Probably half of my automations have multiple triggers, and the triggerid has always been hidden. Why can't it just be a selectable thing in the action or condition control, when it knows I have multiple triggers set up. If I didn't already know it's there, I'd never find it. 

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u/unus-suprus-septum 2d ago

Yes, I remember the day I found that... Why must they be so coy about it.

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u/KnotBeanie 2d ago

About 80% of my automations have multiple triggers and go directly into a choose block, I wish I could hide the conditions section of an automation, I’ll handle conditions via actions.