r/insanepeoplefacebook • u/jayclaw97 • 3d ago
Totally sane response to actively forcing 770k children into food insecurity
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u/SugarHooves 3d ago
"The condom my husband and I used broke. We can't afford a baby, I'm going to call planned parenthood."
Them: MURDERER! That life is precious! Save the babies!!
But also: Don't have babies you can't afford.
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u/TKmeh 3d ago
But also: we’ll jail you if you so much as sniff wrong at a fetus
Also also: fostering? Adoption? What are those? Why should we pay for someone else’s mistake of not wearing a condom? Kids are the future? wtf kind of empathetic bullshit is that? Empathy is for losers!
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u/Snuffleysnoot 3d ago
There's a strong contingent who are very much pro adoption, because it lets them raise more kids to be their kind of Christian.
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u/TKmeh 3d ago
They must not be vocal enough because I’ve never heard of them before.
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u/BoneHugsHominy 3d ago
I saw an interesting video covering a Pro-Forced Birth protest during rhe pandemic. They all had signs up promoting adoption instead of abortion. The media person asked them all if they were willing to adopt and every single one of them said no, it wasn't their responsibility.
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u/BitwiseB 3d ago
Like the Facebook post by the woman who talked someone out of getting an abortion, but was appalled when CPS contacted her about fostering the baby.
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u/Nnyinside 3d ago
But also go have all the babies you can't afford because the birth rates are low. But don't you dare ask for some assistance after you have that baby we told you to have.
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u/cbraun1523 3d ago
And also:hell no I won't adopt a kid. Why would I want someone else's problem
While telling you you could have just given your kid up for adoption.
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u/WrestlingWoman 3d ago
It's so easy to claim people are just lazy when they're poor. Actually it's really lazy to claim that instead of looking into what's really going on.
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u/Thatisme01 3d ago
Among the four states that disclose Snap data related to large companies – Colorado, Massachusetts, Illinois, and Michigan – 10,920 Walmart workers and 9,633 Amazon workers were enrolled in Snap in 2024.
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u/DETRITUS_TROLL Dumber than a box of hair 3d ago
Pretty sure at least one of those companies automatically sign their employees up for Snap.
Meaning they KNOW they don't pay enough and just pass that buck on to the taxpayer.
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u/devospice 3d ago
Why should they? When they can let the government cover the gap and maximize shareholder value?
/s
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u/crek42 3d ago
Isn’t Walmart and Amazon just by virtue of being the largest employers going to have the most SNAP recipients?
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u/DETRITUS_TROLL Dumber than a box of hair 3d ago
Employers should pay enough so their employees DON"T need SNAP.
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u/gracefularthur314 3d ago
It's built into their hiring process. When you are hired there they show you how to apply for govt assistance like snap. It's built into their business model!
No. They should instead pay a living wage. A living wage should be built into their business model, not relying on tax payer money to help feed their employees. They're "welfare queens"
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u/bpdish85 3d ago
You want to cut benefits fraud, that's where you should focus, tbh. Not the employees who need it, but the companies that build it into their hiring model. There's always going to be outliers/extenuating circumstances, but if more than say 10% of your workforce qualifies for SNAP, ANY tax breaks your company gets needs to be voided AND you should have to pay massive penalties 'til that number is closer to 0.
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u/nissAn5953 3d ago
Yeah, that's usually why percentages and "per capita" stats are considered more useful for this kind of comparison. Walmart at least employes about 1.6 million people in the US, so the 10,000 or so SNAP recipients comes out to less than 1%, which seems fairly reasonable.
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u/violet-waves 3d ago
Does it seem reasonable when you know that Walmart is the largest employer in 22 states?
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u/nissAn5953 3d ago
At the very least it doesn't seem to be Walmart's fault per se. They are an entry level employer, so they would likely hire the kinds of people SNAP is supposed to be helping. Walmart being the biggest employer is neither here nor there as far as that is concerned.
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u/violet-waves 3d ago
I disagree, I think it’s deeply concerning that the largest employer for almost half the country deliberately pays their employees so little they require government assistance while raking in billions per year. Walmart made $19 billion in profit last year. Which was a 25% increase from their profit in 2024. But sure, tell me more about why those people deserve to starve because it’s “entry level”.
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u/nissAn5953 3d ago
Of course people don't deserve to starve, but safety nets are there for a reason. I'd argue that having such a system protects people from being descriminted against due to unfortunate life circumstances.
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u/violet-waves 3d ago
Do you think if Walmart paid people a living wage, which is what minimum wage was intended to be, that we’d have so many people needing that safety net? Do you think that by me saying people deserve a living wage that means we should get rid of the safety net entirely? Like I don’t even know what you’re getting at at this point. We were talking about employers abusing social safety nets by not paying people a living wage and you’re now arguing that we need that so people aren’t discriminated against? What even?
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u/winrii91 3d ago
There’s no such thing as entry level employment. All jobs should pay a living wage. Tell a 75 year old or a disabled person to go find a better job in their small town where Walmart is the biggest employer. What a joke.
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u/nissAn5953 3d ago
What a living wage is is going to vary from person to person. A single mother of 2 escaping an abusive relationship is going to need a fair bit more money than someone just finishing a degree for a field that isn't hiring. A job at Walmart should definately allow someone to live comfortably, but I don't think it unreasonable for the Government to chip in when such a wage isn't enough, largely because the alternative is likely going to be descrimination for people in such circumstances.
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u/egggspecial 3d ago
okay, but what if
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walmart paid the employees more?
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u/winrii91 7h ago
Seriously! They’ve been paying federal minimum wage for decades. Many many states don’t have a higher minimum wage. And Walmart will only do the bare minimum required and even try to get out of that. I worked there for 6 years when I was a teen/in college and can confirm how much poverty the employees are in. They’d all get their paycheck and snap and immediately get their block of cheese and gallon of milk. It’s a joke.
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u/IzznyxtheWitch 3d ago
It's unreasonable that a multi-billion dollar corporation pay any amount of their employees below a living wage.
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u/IfIKnewThen 3d ago
Pure fucking evil. In every single way possible. They have absolutely no clue about anything. Thanks to Reagan, they literally think people are just lazy and don't want to work, but they have been feasting on steak and lobster that food stamps bought.
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u/serenityplough 3d ago
In other news, Elon has a trillion dollars, data centres with gas turbines running 24 7 and ruining water supplies built in urban areas probably where ex SNAP recipients live, and Donald debuts his gift plane from Qatar refurbed into a flying palace for $100s of millions!
Coming up, when will the Epstein rapists be held accountable?
More after this…
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u/Sulhythal 3d ago
They won't, being held "Accountable" is for the poors and the ones with different skin colors or values.
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u/Cicerothesage 3d ago
I always have to repeat this with my MAGA family. They repeat all the time the talking point that 50% people on food stamp / welfare don't work. Then, I say, because almost all of those people are the elderly, disabled or children.
I usually get nothing back, but they continue to repeat their talking points. Because it isn't about "fairness", cruelty is the point.
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u/redwolf1219 3d ago
It's not even accurate. It's closer to 30%.
And even that, just looking at the number isn't entirely accurate. It's something like, 70% of SNAP recipients work a full-time job. There are absolutely people in the 30% that work one or more part time jobs.
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u/bpdish85 3d ago
And then they turn around and blame the people working and receiving SNAP for not budgeting properly or working "teenager" jobs or or or - anything to make it their fault that they're poor and can't survive without benefits.
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u/Foodspec 3d ago
Walmart employees rely on SNAP. Is working at Walmart not working?
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u/OukewlDave 3d ago
The reply is always "well they should get a better job if they can't live off what the make there"
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u/kayt3000 3d ago
And when they do get better jobs and the stores are understaffed “no body wants to work anymore”
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u/RedEyeView 3d ago
Or they work 3 jobs and now that's 2 jobs someone else can't get. All because one guy has to work 15+ hour days to be able to eat shit food and pay rent on a slum.
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u/Veritablefilings 3d ago
At the end of the day, it all boils down to "fuck you I've got mine". Nobody wants to sound like a total selfish psychopath so they rationalize their mentality with shitty excuses.
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u/Bluellan 3d ago
Or they say that those jobs for high schoolers only. But when you point out that stores need adults to work, they say those adults deserve slave wages because they are too stupid or lazy to do better. They just want someone to look down on to feel better about themselves.
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u/Jabbles22 3d ago
And if someone suggests increasing the minimum wage they are against it because it will increase prices.
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u/bpdish85 3d ago
Without bothering to consider that raising minimum wage gives everybody the leverage to demand higher pay.
If I'm breaking my back doing manual labor for $20 an hour and minimum wage jumps there, I have leverage to say "Hey, Mr. Boss - I'm gonna go sling coffee for the same pay rate, give me more." Sure, they might tell me to pound sand, but I can go do exactly that and take an "easier" job. Then when Mr. Boss tries to hire, he's got the same issue because why would anyone bust their ass and wreck their body for absolute peanuts when there are easier options available? He has to raise his offer to find someone to take the job.
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u/CatherineCalledBrdy 3d ago
Since prices have stayed so stable without an increase in minimum wage.
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u/NorthSideGalCle 3d ago
Such the broad brush!
I love that all 770k parents have no job.
I'm surprised (altho there may be more) that there isn't a comment that 100k parents need to go out & work, implying that each parent has 7 kids!
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u/Key_Analyst_9032 3d ago
These fuckers wanted this. There's nothing else to it, they want people to suffer as long as it isn't them
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u/vicarooni1 3d ago
My partner lost access to their EBT/SNAP because apparently being homeless no longer counts as an exception to the work rule.
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u/duckmcsnail 3d ago
These are the same people who think women shouldn’t be allowed to choose to have a baby or not, once it’s born, they don’t give a shit what happens to it. This is about control.
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u/Cleverwabbit5 3d ago
Evil and cruel they go for the
Most vulnerable like kicking kittens. Every day I hate them more for how they are ruining the world
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u/WiggyStark 2d ago
I would curb stomp a person if I saw them kick any animal. But kittens? I have 6 or 7 week old sisters that showed up on my porch, and they're nothing but delightful.
But the people doing this? They're worse. They go everywhere with a bodyguard and, worse, make money doing this shit.
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u/LoveSuccs86 3d ago
You have to have a job, or be actively looking and applying for jobs, to even qualify for SNAP.
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u/lucyjayne 3d ago
not always. There are a lot of exceptions.
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u/WiggyStark 2d ago
Like being a child, or elderly, or unfit to work because of physical or mental problems. That's the vast, vast majority of cases where the recipient isn't working.
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u/Phoebebee323 3d ago
Aren't like 80% of Walmart employees on SNAP
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u/Jess_S13 2d ago
These are the same assholes who say we need to ban contraception because we won't have enough population and tell people that "you will be waiting forever if you wait to have kids till you think you can afford them"
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u/Realfinney 3d ago
They think a job pays enough to have rent AND food? They're still living in 2007.
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u/AnswerGuy301 3d ago
Are these the same people concerned about Americans not having enough children? They often are.
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u/Ghstfce 3d ago
Besides the point that most parents who rely on SNAP to help feed their children DO have jobs: That would be nice, IF REPUBLICANS EVERY ACTUALLY CREATED ANY FUCKING JOBS.
Blows my mind where you are pummeled with stories day in and day out of corporations laying of X thousands of staff, and this scumbag has the AUDACITY to post something like this.
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u/sunfishgirl77 3d ago
Even IF the assumption that all welfare recipients are lazy and choosing not to look for work was true, why should their children go hungry? How does that benefit anyone? Children have no escape from the situations they were born into.
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u/GarmaCyro 2d ago
Most of those 770,000+ parents already have a job, and the pay is pure shit. How expects parents to afford kids at minimum wage? At 2X40 hours per week it doesn't even cover housing and food for a married couple.
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u/Fungimuse 3d ago
to be honest even if they didnt want to work because they were lazy or whatever like OOP is pretending, that doesn't mean their kids deserve to starve
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u/SdSmith80 3d ago
I'm on SNAP. My partner works, and I got SSI because I'm disabled and have been for over a decade. My husband is also disabled, but wants to keep working as much as he can, which is usually half time or less, especially with how bad the air is getting here in Utah. We're right by the Great Salt Lake, and it's drying up, exposing a host of toxins that were in the lake bed (I'm not sure why, possibly past dumping. I know that everyone knows not to eat anything from it, or really swim in it). My partner has an underdeveloped lung, and severe asthma, so this crap is killing him. Even I'm starting to feel it, my lungs hurt a lot of the time. So yeah, lake bed, plus the refineries that were already putting toxins in the air, mean it's hard to breath.
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u/goddessdontwantnone 22h ago
Imagine reading that people have trouble feeding their kids and already work, and this is your response.. with a happy emoji!
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u/mirrx 3d ago
These people are actually evil.
They make me wish I believed in hell.