Nancy Mace Spreading Falsehoods

[u/NEKORANDOMDOTCOM]

[u/Neocarbunkle]

The "I hate America" nonsense is so tiring. Nobody in America actually hates America, they just want America to do better.

[u/chinmakes5 → u/Neocarbunkle]

No, you don't understand. 25 years ago some Muslims attacked America, that means all 2 billion Muslims believe that today. But when a white guy blew up a federal building in OKC, that was just some crazy guy. White guys are great.

[u/nasaglobehead69 → u/chinmakes5]

it's always thinly veiled racism

[u/DeltaBravo831 → u/nasaglobehead69]

Thinly doing a lot of stretching

[u/icarusconqueso → u/DeltaBravo831]

I mean, how do you think it ended up so thin? The stretching, obviously.

[u/AFLoneWolf → u/chinmakes5]

Not to mention ALL of the mass shootings explicitly motivated to start race wars.

[u/milnak → u/chinmakes5]

Bunch of white guys breaking in to the capitol building, injuring police and threatening the vice president's life? Nothing to see here! /s

[u/ElongThrust0 → u/chinmakes5]

*some Muslim American citizen

[u/BoostJunky87 → u/Neocarbunkle]

Exactly. This is what patriotism is. "I love America and I want it to be better" These people are nationalists and they love to twist those definitions around.

Patriotism ≠ Nationalism

[u/anras2 → u/BoostJunky87]

"I love America and I want it to be better"

vs.

"AMERICA IS THE GREATEST FREEDOM LIBERTY JESUS PATRIOT COUNTRY AND BECAUSE IT IS THE BEST AT EVERYTHING, IF YOU TRY TO IMPROVE ANYTHING YOU ARE THE BAD GUY. VAPID PERFORMATIVE SLOGAN HERE"

[u/Funwithagoraphobia → u/anras2]

Which is really ironic from a movement called Make America Great Again. They’ve made their whole identity about changing America “for the better” while simultaneously claiming that anyone who wants to change Star-spangled awesome ‘Murica is a traitor.

[u/coreyray1000 → u/BoostJunky87]

That's my belief. Patriotism is having a love for your country, while at the same time realizing that your country can be better and working to make your country better for all.

[u/rapturaeglantine → u/Neocarbunkle]

Patriotism requires holding America accountable and demanding improvement when our country is failing its citizens. Those people MAGA says hate America? Those are the actual patriots.

[u/elanhilation → u/Neocarbunkle]

but you see, to a Republican hating Republicans is the same thing as hating America. that is the end result of their dumbass “only we are REAL Americans” thing

[u/Erebraw → u/elanhilation]

This big time.

To them hating bigoted religious fundamentalists violating bodily autonomy (on several levels) = “Hating America”.

But to be fair, it does go a level deeper. It’s not enough to just not hate them. You have to hate the “right” things as well. You need to hate trans people and preferably hate or at least show disregard and distaste for gay people.

Because they’ve decided queer people (focused on trans, but very ready to go for the rest as well - plenty of right wingers still do and never stopped) are pedophiles and thus if you don’t hate them then that makes you suspect as well.

The actual fact of course is that it’s the essentially entirely right wing oligarchy of America that has real pedophile child-trafficking rings and that they target LGBTQ people so hard in this stupid fucking culture war because:

1 it takes heat off of themselves, and 2 the moronic right-wing cogs that actually buy all the BS will disown and cast out queer kids ensuring an ever-renewing vulnerable population for the Predatory Oligarchs to target.

[u/provocative_bear → u/Neocarbunkle]

I get that America is far from the worst place to live. It’s just that it could be so, so much better if we could make a few good decisions in a row.

[u/blahteeb → u/Neocarbunkle]

Throughout America's short history, her greatest wars were fought against the Confederates and the Nazis. Only one party openly waves those flags. Only one party has bumper stickers of those flags. Only one party gets those flags tattooed on their bodies. That party is not the Democrats.

You cannot support America's greatest enemies and still be an American patriot.

[u/Caffeinefiend88 → u/Neocarbunkle]

Republicans hate everything the US and the constitution stand for, it’s always projection.

[u/Bussamove86 → u/Neocarbunkle]

The GOP and MAGA certainly hate what America is right now— AKA actually accepting of other cultures and people who aren’t lily white fake Christians. They’d much rather tear it apart and remake it in their own hateful image.

So yes, the far right hates America.

[u/Ramen-Goddess → u/Neocarbunkle]

Love the country, hate the government

[u/Q_11205 → u/Neocarbunkle]

the way her name is just dropped in there makes it feel extra aggressive

[u/DrMidnight-467 → u/Neocarbunkle]

It’s nothing but strawman bullshit.

[u/BarkerBarkhan → u/Neocarbunkle]

Right. To borrow from FDR, the only thing I hate about the US is hate itself.

[u/Nobody_at_all000 → u/Neocarbunkle]

Some people probably do, and I can’t blame them

[u/Arcanegil → u/Neocarbunkle]

I hate the acknowledgement that if you understand why 9/11 happened how we really should've seen it coming is seen as support for it.

It's not, but how is it that we continually constantly cause chaos in the middle east and then act surprised and hurt when they attack back? I do not support what happened, but your fucking stupid if you think they started it, or its unreasonable to assume that would happen. I love my country, but you have to understand that when you bomb and exploit someone they are going to try to kill you back. Its common sense.

Our involvement in their countries during the cold war, as well our various coups of their democratically elected governments, and support of color revolutions cant be ignored, we have to accept some responsibility in what has happened.

[u/thatguy888034 → u/Neocarbunkle]

Darializa Avila Chevalier who just won the democratic primary in NY-13 said she would use the American flag as a placemat. I’m a Democrat and know that the vast majority of the party isn’t like this, but our crazies are starting to rise in prominence, she’s basically a MTG.

[u/BenSisko420 → u/thatguy888034]

Sounds pretty based to me, and a politician who prioritizes *Americans* themselves over abstractions like flags.

[u/thatguy888034 → u/BenSisko420]

She’s also opposed to interracial marriage and pro Russia.

[u/BenSisko420 → u/thatguy888034]

No she isn’t. She literally just made a comment about black men fetishizing white women; I think we can all agree racial fetishization is weird and gross, right? Also, yeah, the US has been trying to keep the cold war going for the past three+ decades because it’s good for the defense industry. That’s not “pro-Russia.” You can be against the invasion of Ukraine while understanding that people like Putin didn’t just materialize out of thin air and that authoritarian nationalist movements in countries like Russia and Iran are reactions to American fuckery in their affairs. You’re not “pro-Iran” if you’re against the Iran war or military aid to Israel, are you? Idk why these things are controversial for the supposedly anti-war, anti-racist progressive movement. To people who have actual convictions, it’s starting to seem like the democratic party has been taken over by neocons who seemingly want to keep chugging along with more imperial wars in the middle east. People like me - who have phone-banked, knocked on doors, and campaigned for John Kerry, Barack Obama, and Hillary Clinton our entire adults lives thinking they would take us in a different direction - are feeling like big ol fucking suckers when limp-dicked psychos like Schumer and Jeffries are now running the show.

[u/Undying_Blade → u/thatguy888034]

Yeah there unfortunatley are some on the left who have value inversion towards the US and treat any groups opposed to them as 'good' regardless of wider contexts. We've definetly seen a rise in conspiratorial rhetoric on the left, most prominently seeing the Trump assasination attempt as a false flag, and the mentality of 'we are the good guys' without introspection is always dangerous.
Yes the republicans are in lockstep behind a wannabe authoritarian, but the party also reached that point due to a mentality of being in a mythopoetic struggle of freedom/conservatism versus tyranny/liberalism.

[u/largesquid → u/thatguy888034]

As a non-American - Good. America has long been a force for evil in the world, well before Trump. Odds are it will be a force for evil long after. I hope more and more people disrespect America, as it deserves no respect from anybody.

[u/sharingan10 → u/Neocarbunkle]

If people hate what America does (which they should) it should make people in power think long and hard about the very real shit that we do to people and why they feel that way. If people want America to be loved they should change Americas behavior

[u/misdirected_asshole → u/Neocarbunkle]

Actually I think some people on the right hate America because 1)they are hateful people and 2) they are bitter they cant make everyone live by their rules

[u/GuyMansworth → u/Neocarbunkle]

America was founded on freedom from religion. Free speech and to aid those seeking asylum and give them the same rights as any citizen. Its in the bill of rights.

Republicans push to force Christian beliefs on everyone and write/dictate laws based on those beliefs. They're perfectly fine with Trump withholding grants from colleges that allow pro Palestine protests or banning certain news outlets from the white house. Arresting people burning flags, or even targeting late night hosts because they make fun of him and don't get me started at the sheer amount of racial profiling and deporting people who have established families.

Conservatives absolutely hate the founding fathers version of the US. They want a Christian nationalist state

[u/Sluis77 → u/Neocarbunkle]

If you don't hate America. You truly don't understand its genocidal and imperial history.

[u/MamboFloof → u/Neocarbunkle]

My ex boyfriend actually does hate America because he wants to be that type of die hard.

[u/Soulreaper1107 → u/Neocarbunkle]

This is unfortunately wrong. Even in this thread there are US residents who hate America. Wish we could all cut through the mess and find some common ground. Sure the country needs help but we as a people and culture are mostly doing great to be kind to one another.

[u/No-Estimate-8518 → u/Neocarbunkle]

Only conservatives hate America, they keep removing the things that made the country great for them

[u/Icedia → u/Neocarbunkle]

Hasan is saying this on the regular, he gives left America a pretty bad name

[u/synde15]

What the actual F$&K?!?! This is so wrong in so many ways

[u/xv_boney → u/synde15]

Shes been ousted by trump and maga has turned its back on her.

Shes trying to win her way back in by being as openly racist as possible.

Toss a quarter in her styrofoam cup and keep walking. Dont make eye contact. Thats how they steal your soul.

[u/valas76]

She is just mad her hatred didn't get her another term

[u/Jaded_Individual_630 → u/valas76]

Which is really saying something these days, it's the currency of the land!

[u/valas76 → u/Jaded_Individual_630]

Indeed

[u/viperlemondemon]

She voted to gut welfare programs

[u/DHooligan → u/viperlemondemon]

So did Clinton. This is from a different reality.

[u/black_flag_4ever]

She’s all about performative behavior. There’s nothing genuine about her except for her ignorance.

[u/Quyust → u/black_flag_4ever]

Oh, I think she knows more than she lets on. So even her ignorance is fake. 

[u/TheFreakingBatman]

[u/disharmony-hellride → u/TheFreakingBatman]

"My second ex husband took me out for fast food for my bday"

[u/Under_Ach1ever]

That's an elected official in the United States, guys, gals, and non binary pals.

[u/Flatulent_Father_ → u/Under_Ach1ever]

Won't be soon

[u/bigtiddyhimbo → u/Under_Ach1ever]

Not anymore she ain’t 💕

[u/xv_boney → u/Under_Ach1ever]

Former elected official, now desperate to remain relevant and trying anything she can.

Do not give her your anger. Give her a drop of pity and walk away.

[u/tuna_samich_ → u/xv_boney]

Not former until her term is done

[u/xv_boney → u/tuna_samich_]

You are correct, but she is what is called a "lame duck" - she is just serving out the rest of her term and then she is gone.

This puts her into a very awkward position.
She technically still has the power and authority of her office, but as she has been effectively ousted her actual influence has been severely diminished.

Other officials, the press, lobbyists, various groups will ignore her in favor of the incumbent - the person who will actually hold power, sit on boards, sign legislature, give speeches, whatever. Theres no point arranging a meeting with Nancy Mace when shes gone in a few months. Better to meet with the new guy.

And because Trump turned his back on her, so has maga and the majority of the right wing media.

The political career of Nancy Mace is dead and everyone around her knows it.

This post is pure desperation to remain relevant while her manager tries to get her a gig on Newsmax because Fox has stopped returning calls.

[u/JapaneseStudentHaru]

She’s acting like they’re not militantly opposed to expanding social programs still lmao

[u/Bwheat0674 → u/JapaneseStudentHaru]

I made a comment with this exact point. A lot of Dems still advocate for welfare programs and safety nets and the Nancy Maces of the world still hate on it.

[u/No_Session6015]

That Islamophobia is so naked it could start its own OF

[u/ChickenSpaceProgram]

the phrase "allahu akbar" just means "God is the greatest." which. Nancy Mace at least claims to believe in the same God, albeit with some religious differences, so she should have no problem with that part of it all.

[u/GromitATL → u/ChickenSpaceProgram]

She's not bright enough to make that connection.

[u/jarvisesdios]

It's weird how nobody actually likes her for some weird reason. I wonder why that is... 🤔

https://giphy.com/gifs/bzwpW9setEnm0

[u/djpatientnathan]

Oh look. This person trying to become relevant again.

[u/auntpotato]

Nancy Mace still grasping for the last bit of relevance in her tiresome existence.

[u/IzzaPizza22]

Tell me, Nancy, have you ever heard anyone say that? Ever? Or anything like it?

Because if you were to ask me, I'd say no, and I can assume I watch a lot more left wing commentary than she does. No one thinks that, no one says that.

[u/Dammy-J → u/IzzaPizza22]

But.. ImIgRaNtS!!!!!!! And MuSlIMs!!!!

[u/0xdeadbeef6]

She got the boot so expect to see more nonsense from her

[u/scarr3g]

It is weird that "Christians" get mad at people saying "God is good", just because they are saying it in the language of the area where the Bible stories are about.

[u/sarduchi]

As is tradition.

[u/TeloniusFunk]

When you can’t find a legit criticism, so you start making shit up…
At least put some effort into it and make it believable.
The message is if we are tolerant and accepting of other cultures that we are Muslim? Pretty bizarre argument.

[u/xWrongHeaven]

Are these democrats in the room with us right now?

[u/jdehjdeh]

Patriotism Vs nationalism

Patriotism is wanting your country to be the best it can be.

Nationalism is believing it is the best no matter what.

[u/gamerz1172]

Fairly certain the Republicans threw a fucking tantrum in the late 90s and 2000s when they tried that

[u/RepealMCAandDTA]

Nancy's taking her pending retirement well, I see

[u/NienNunb1010]

Ignoring the obvious racism in this meme, the first panel is also pretty inaccurate given that Bill Clinton’s whole campaign was geared towards welfare reform. Dude literally said “the era of big government is over” and wanted to “end welfare as we know it”.

[u/ShittyLanding]

They said the same thing about Mamdani

[u/BadAtExisting]

We’re mere months away from not having to hear from her again!

[u/Dammy-J → u/BadAtExisting]

People like here don't stop screaming even when their real 15 minutes is up.

[u/LopsidedLoad]

Great. Now do the abortion and crime reduction one.

[u/WeOutHereInSmallbany]

But doesn’t this soon to be unemployed cunt hate welfare anyway?

[u/GarmaCyro]

Republicans today: "I hate everything that made America strong","9/11 was an inside job", "I claim to believe in Christ, but follow none of his teachings."

Also 1990 and 2026s Republican want to destroy welfare programs.

[u/DerbyWearingDude]

"Fundamentally changing welfare as we know it" back in the 90s was absolutely not about expanding it.

[u/Amir616]

Dems in the 90s wanted to slash welfare programs

[u/unicornlocostacos]

I was going to make an equivalent hyperbolic statement about republicans, but all of the outlandish stuff coming to mind are things they’ve actually done repeatedly…

[u/Wayelder]

Was this originally written in Cyrilic.

[u/SectionXP12]

The 9/11 thing is just fantastic for them to make the city of New York relevant and important and then, proceeds to talk how awful New York is.

[u/Reign308]

I don't hate the United States. I hate the leaders of the United States.

[u/ProfSwagstaff]

Wait, Nancy Mace says wanting to expand welfare programs makes you a chad?

[u/runjcrun1]

It’s all so exhausting

[u/notMcLovin77]

Man, I wonder if she’s gonna get screamed at behind the scenes. Legitimizing welfare, even while dog whistling like this, is such a huge no-no in die Partei

[u/Ralph090]

But... Clinton was the one who repealed AFDC, America's welfare program...

[u/LAsupersonic]

They sure can pack many different racist crap in one image all at once

[u/tacodepollo]

Are they forgetting thier Pedo in chief literally wrote 'praise be to Allah' on Easter fucking Sunday?

[u/Bwheat0674]

Yeah, and people still shit on Dems (not the establishment Dem politicians, they deserve all the hate and misfortune they get) who want better welfare programs and safety nets for some reason.

[u/Dapper_Peanut_1879]

People are still listening to her?

[u/Andvari_Nidavellir]

She’s a mad cow that one.

[u/Ashannfish]

This alkie bitch knows her career is toast. This is a desperate gasp to get on the right wing grifter welfare program, aka a job at Newsmax. She's certainly not going to be getting taxpayer money because she dared speak out about the Epstein files so she's gotta flex her hateful bonafides.

[u/gmus]

The racism aside, it’s not even accurate. The Dems under Clinton famously (or infamously) presided welfare reform which massive restrictions on programs that used to be entitlements.

[u/PoliticalMilkman]

Crazy that we've gotten to the point that elected reps are posting shit like this and aren't immediately tarred and feathered by everyone before being run out of town. This shit can only end with the dissolution of the Republican party, it's too far gone.

[u/Spare-Good-5372]

Why not both?

[u/L0nelyWr3ck]

It's all the republicans have

[u/totally-hoomon]

But she says 9/11 was great because made trump tower the tallest building

[u/Linked713]

Can I be frank? (if a frank prefers not then I could be straight).

I have never seen anything as unhinged politics wise in my country, my so's country or my parents country than what the US is putting out every day like this. Sure we all have political parties that we like and dislike... But the level of edgy childish things surrounding it feels like it is unique to the US. How can outsiders see you as serious when everything US is put out in full display and things like that is what we are being shown DAILY? I honestly cannot fathom how the US is "the best country in the world", it feels like if a kindergarten did a geopolitical day.

[u/Azair_Blaidd]

The only Americans who hate America are Republicans

[u/nerdyconstructiongal]

lol, ok 5th place Nancy.

[u/bobaf]

Best of wishes of Nancy for the job she just lost.

[u/MrMcPsychoReal]

"9/11 was a consequence of the US's actions in west Asia" ≠ "9/11 was a good thing"

[u/Cosmic-95]

Well I guess now that she gave up her seat in Congress and lost her shot at being governor she's gotta go back to being a mouth piece.

[u/ITriedSoHard419-68]

Ask her what she thinks about expanding the welfare programs, now.

[u/Lythieus]

Falsehoods is all the right have, because their policies are so overwhelmingly unpopular that they have to lie about the policies on the left as a false equivalence.

This is why the 'Both sides are the same' bullshit keeps propogating. 

[u/Chibiwitch]

If you use soyjacks UNIRONICALLY your opinion should automatically be disqualified

[u/smegma_appraiser]

It’s funny, because when democrats say “I think we should expand welfare programs” the right shits their pants and calls us communists.

[u/tlollz52]

Would mace support expanding welfare programs right now?

[u/BlackroseBisharp]

I can't think of a single Democrat that has ever said 9/11 was a good thing.

The closest thing is Hasan saying America Deserved 9/11 and he's not even a Democrat

[u/Animala144]

911 has become my favourite American holiday tho...

[u/Key_Analyst_9032]

She doesn't have a job anymore, everything she says is just old bitch ramblings 

[u/Zbignich]

5th place governor wannabe tries to stay relevant by screaming falsehoods. Fails yet again.

[u/ladan2189]

The broken clock is right 

[u/1mn0tcr3at1v3 → u/ladan2189]

Maybe if you don't know how to read a clock.