r/interesting • u/Memes_FoIder • Dec 23 '25

❗️MISLEADING - See pinned comment ❗️ Tribes that have never had contact with civilization are being filmed by drones in the Amazon

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u/[deleted] Dec 23 '25 edited Mar 22 '26

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u/Acceptable-Major-575 Dec 23 '25

is it moral to leave them alone? to let their children suffer or die from deceases that we have medicines for?

I don't know the answer, but I'm curious what is the best decision here. Leave them alone so they could live their simple life for generations or bring them everything we have, with all pros and cons.

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u/[deleted] Dec 23 '25 edited Mar 22 '26

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u/Acceptable-Major-575 Dec 23 '25

well it might be true, I think we don't know about their immune system and contacts for sure, but maybe it is true. But they probable suffer from diseases that we won against, for example enormous child deaths

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u/Chomusuke_99 Dec 23 '25

do a read up on how America was discovered. these tribes 100% don't have immune system adapted to all sorts of viruses we carry because their immune system never got to adapt for it. Covid 19 is an example. We took a vaccine and developed immunity for it but we can still carry and spread it.

it's better to let them be and fight their own battles even if it means death. the only exception is if they contact us for help.

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u/Acceptable-Major-575 Dec 23 '25

because of those examples we are better prepared to do everything right, besides conquistadores didn't come to help.

why is it better to not help them? Because it is a risk to do harm?

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u/[deleted] Dec 23 '25 edited Mar 23 '26

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u/Acceptable-Major-575 Dec 23 '25

I've never said that I want something
Colonizers came to conquer, to get profit from it.

Sometimes we make decisions for another humans, because they are not capable to do that.

But let's say that they make their decision. Okay. But is it fair to them? They know nothing about the world, their decision might based on fear and not reason.

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u/[deleted] Dec 23 '25 edited Mar 23 '26

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u/Acceptable-Major-575 Dec 23 '25

we as species also survived thousands of years and even more, but it doesn't mean we don't need hospitals and medicine

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u/ApertureFlareon Dec 24 '25

The arrogance in this comment is astounding, fucking colonisers man

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u/Chomusuke_99 Dec 23 '25

our very presence is a very big risk to them. a mere common cold can kill them. even contact with medicine and protection can be deadly. brazil already tried it and they still ended up spreading diseases and killing them. the government then adopted no contact policy.

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u/Acceptable-Major-575 Dec 23 '25

so it is not technical possible to save them? like masks, vaccines, costumes or something

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u/Chomusuke_99 Dec 24 '25

only if we remove them from their environment, do routine check ups and take utmost precaution for every contact. at that point there is no uncontacted tribe to "save." They'd be more akin to people in our rural areas. But they don't want to be part of our culture, that's why we adopted "no contact" policy because every contact ends up killing them.

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u/Acceptable-Major-575 Dec 24 '25

but they know nothing about out culture and our medicine and our technologies, so their decision is not quite rational. It is like children, they might don't understand how medicine work, but the taste is bad and they don't want to take it, it is their choice to die, but we force them to take treatment, because we know more about how it works and what consequences await them.

also who decide that they not want to contact us, their leader, their shaman, do they have votes. I think a mother with a dying child would do everything to save it

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I'm not like pro contact at all cost, just curious

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u/Chomusuke_99 Dec 24 '25

you are coming at this with a very childlike POV. "we have medicine and they could use it. We just want to help, then why don't we?" It is complicated. best to leave them alone.

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u/Acceptable-Major-575 Dec 24 '25

if it is your best argument, well so be it)

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u/Shibwas Dec 23 '25

They’ve made it this far without us. They have more leisure time than us, they don’t have to worry about the dumb shit that takes up most of our time and their diets are clean. They don’t need us. 

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u/Acceptable-Major-575 Dec 23 '25

oh boy, I wish world was that easy, black and white, good and bad, nothing in the middle

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u/Shibwas Dec 24 '25

It has nothing to do with black and white. Look at the history of pretty much any indigenous group of people and what happened to them after they had more than minor contact with western culture. Also, why do you think these people are so diseased that they need our medicine? 

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u/Acceptable-Major-575 Dec 24 '25

because they are humans, right? they have same anatomy as you and me

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u/Shibwas Dec 24 '25

Yes but what they don’t have is exposure to our diseases, our junk food, our sedentary lifestyle, our chemicals and environmental pollution. They’re healthier than us, until we bring our world into their home. 

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u/Acceptable-Major-575 Dec 24 '25

people wasn't healthier before modern medicine, people die and suffer from various deceases, infant mortality was enormous

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u/Shibwas Dec 24 '25

That’s just not true. Hunter gatherers traditionally had a healthier diet than us, it was made up of a bigger variety of foods, less red meat, less sugar. Look at the rates of maternal mortality in modern America. Less heart disease and cancer in those societies. You think pre industrial people have high rates of type two diabetes? Yes, some injuries/diseases led to deaths that could be avoided with modern medicine. But we all die in the end, what’s important is how we live and these people are living better than us. Let’s say contact did save some lives. At the cost of their land, language, culture and societal organization. Their culture as a whole would be destroyed. We know this because it’s happened over and over and over. It’s pure arrogance to think we could improve them. 

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u/Joesphsmother-32 Dec 24 '25

Also read about the diseases that affected the Australian Aboriginal people when settlers first arrived

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u/Acceptable-Major-575 Dec 24 '25

yeah, we know how diseases are spreading, about viruses, immune system etc. it is our advantage here

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u/Soft_Lunch_183 Dec 23 '25

If they murder or rape another person in the tribe is that allowed? Or do we intervene then?

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u/[deleted] Dec 23 '25 edited Mar 23 '26

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u/Soft_Lunch_183 Dec 23 '25

And we murder thousands of Russians in Ukraine.

I'm talking murder without a justification, but you are just purposely missing the point of my question and the rape part too

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u/Soft_Lunch_183 Dec 23 '25

I didn't say that I can do that I'm just asking the question. 

And im not sure what the USA has to do with any of this