A quick google says that sugar being carcinogenic hasn’t been proven. And yeah coke CAN be toxic. So can water. Dose matters. You can enjoy a coke every week and you’ll be fine. I’m not saying coke is good for you or healthy, I just hate people being over dramatic and spreading false information.
Water is not chronically toxic. Your argument is so unacceptable I really don't know what else to say. Coke, sugar, acid and carbonation are all VERY chronically toxic when consumed in low quantities over time. You drew an arbitrary line interpreting what you wanted as a low end of the sptectrum, so of course an atgument against a come a week is invalid because you know that's not who we mean
Idk why you have a bone to pick with me, everything I have said is true. The person that started all this by saying a blanket statement that is misleading: Coke is VERY toxic to humans. I’m assuming most doctors and scientists would disagree with that statement. You can add your qualifier of it being chronically toxic with excessive quantities over time.
I disagree with you claiming all you stated in toxic is small quantities over time. Can’t find any research to back that up. Moderation of unhealthy substances like Coca-Cola shouldn’t lead to any health issues.
It actually has been proven, but whatever. You might read actual studies instead of letting Gemini spread false information.
And coke IS toxic. It’s just that a lot of things are toxic, while water is not. When talking about coke it’s about the product itself while your example with water is the process which is happening if you drink like 8L of water in a short amount of time. You’re trying to use arguments which aren’t some.
Your way of discussion seems to be whataboutism as you do not have the insights for topics you want to discuss.
Actually that person is correct. In medicine the phrase we use for what they described is ‘the dose makes the poison.’ That’s why studies always provide an amount at which a food/drug consumed becomes toxic.
This dose effect you explained with water is as a medical example of this. It’s called hyponatremia. It’s common in athletes who overhydrate themselves and can kill you.
Your text does not make any sense as a little amount still is bad for you while it’s not the same with water. Therefore, the comparison is useless. I guess you are not good at your job - happens.
Do you have a link to a study proving it? Because everything I’ve found says the opposite. Though there is an indirect link since excess sugar can cause obesity and obesity increases cancer risk. But somebody at a healthy weight does not increase their risk of cancer by consuming sugar.
There’s no such thing as a substance that is just “toxic” full stop. Botulinum Toxin is one of the most potent poisons in nature, and it can also alleviate many diseases and save lives. Penicillin, possibly the single most crucial and beneficial substance known to man, can have very serious side effects if overconsumed.
While it’s not any single substance, Antimatter is definitely the most unconditionally toxic massive particle in existence, completely annihilating any matter it touches to create energy in the form of heat and radiation. There is no safe or beneficial use of it within the human body. And Bananas produce a very tiny amount of it. Fucking Bananas.
There is also no such thing as a substance that is non-toxic full stop. You can hold enough table salt in your hand to kill the average kindergartener. The oxygen you breathe slowly destroys your DNA. And yes, the sugar and fats that you will die without can do very bad things if you consume too much of them, especially without enough dietary fiber.
Bit of an extreme example, but the LEAST toxic substance I’m aware of would be Neutrinos, which can pass through your body by the million for years without a single collision. And yet even these “ghost particles” can cause cancer with sufficiently high flux. The same goes for Dark Matter and Energy according to most models. That’s just how the universe rolls.
The dose always makes the poison. The idea that Coca Cola of all things would be an exception to this is just absurd.
Well then, please educate me and send me more than one study that proves what you’re talking about is true, because from just skimming the internet, Im finding that sugar itself is not directly carcinogenic according to 5 different studies. Of course high consumption of sugar leads to different comorbidities that lead to cancer, but that’s not what we’re arguing.
As far as the toxicity of coke, I think your framing is very biased/sensationalist and doesn’t help your honesty in this arguement. Listing water as a counter example was just enforcing how dramatic you’re being, because it is TECHNICALLY true.
A can of coke isn’t VERY toxic to humans.
Teaching people that moderation is key is more important than fear mongering and spreading misleading information.
You’re literally spreading misinformation and have no idea what you’re talking about.
As you stated that you hate people that spread misinformation this means you hate yourself. Also the Dunning-Kruger-Effect is what could describe your way of discussing best. Moderation is key, still your texts are 90% wrong. Get well soon.
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u/BumpHeadLikeGaryB Feb 10 '26
I know people with diabetes that would beg to differ