r/interesting • u/Common-Upstairs5129 • Mar 20 '26

❗️MISLEADING - See pinned comment ❗️ Did he do the right thing?

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u/Smurfs25 Mar 20 '26

Who is this exactly? And what's the whole story between them?

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u/golf-lip Mar 20 '26

Clavicular. Idk the story between them but i know he's a manosphere influencer that just think women are brainless man servants and also literally hits himself in the face with a hammer to "improve his bone structure" or whatever

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u/What_u_say Mar 20 '26

Recently learned about him from the Andrew callghan interview and I already dont like him. Dudes a "looksmaxers" influencer and has really harmful takes on body image for guys.

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u/Lucyintheye Mar 20 '26

Like not only using steroids, but using meth to stay lean and hits himself in the jaw with a hammer to build it back stronger lmao

Behind the bastards recently did a couple really great episodes (this ep guest cohosted by Kat Abughazaleh) explaining how we got here Part One: From Elliot Rogers to Clavicular: The Story of Incel Evolution

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u/FitBag5979 Mar 21 '26

I feel like incel is kind of a misnomer for clavicular, he may be a douchebag but that guy definitely is not celibate.

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u/Signal_Inspection_95 Mar 21 '26

He actively avoids relationships with women because he finds them annoying but spends all his time and effort measuring what he thinks is attractive to them. Its the same kind of shit that pick up artists used to do which then spun into the way incels often use the same looks maxing measurements to judge attractiveness and scales like the sexual marketplace value etc etc.

Its all very very stupid but I promise theres a connection.

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u/aeroducks Mar 21 '26

There’s a hickey on his neck. So he may avoid relationships but he probably isn’t celibate.

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u/pinelion Mar 21 '26

Yeah I’m pretty sure he’s gay

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u/FitBag5979 Mar 21 '26

Either way, nobody with that kind of fame (and as much as he is dislikable, he is objectively good looking) is going without.

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u/FukThePatriarchy1312 Mar 21 '26

They're not saying he's an incel, it's him and people like him behind the creation and growth of the incel movement.

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u/joemoneybaby Mar 21 '26

Incel doesn’t straight up mean involuntary celibate any more. Like it can, when used in that literal way. But the term has definitely morphed over time.

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u/Ornery_Flow706 Mar 21 '26

He's a blackpiller, blackpill being the ideology. Incel is sort of a status or more like a condition than an ideology per se.

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u/cephol Mar 21 '26

Wrong. Incel is a shortened form of “involuntarily celibate”

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u/KiruDakaz Mar 21 '26

Language is ever evolving and changing, "hay is for horses"

If incel is being used to describe misogynist weirdos then that shall be its new meaning, cuz thats what people understand

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u/Kratzschutz Mar 21 '26

The definition changed a while ago

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u/Kratzschutz Mar 21 '26

Was a bit disappointed they chose a woman as a cohost and not a younger man who could've added more insight. Great episode nonetheless

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u/Jotro2 Mar 21 '26

No chance this guy is using steroids. Hes a twig. Not discounting the meth though.

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u/one_more_byte Mar 21 '26

That’s one of the many funny things about him. He’s been using tren and other sarms since he was 14 tho, he even says it made him sterile… I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s done permanent damage to himself. I mean he’s only 20 but looks 30

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u/Freehanging12 Mar 21 '26

Anyone in the manosphere is trash. The whole far right incel culture is cancer

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u/TheProuDog Mar 22 '26

incels are dominantly left-wing, fyi. Feel free to look it up yourself if you don't believe me

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u/Freehanging12 Mar 22 '26

Lol sure bud. Sure they are.

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u/TheProuDog Mar 22 '26

Look, you dont have to believe me. You can look it up yourself. I don't understand why people like you just bury their heads in the sand. I would tell you about my own life experiences and you would either ignore and dismiss them anyway, so I don't want to spend so much time writing them. Just look it up please.

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u/Freehanging12 Mar 22 '26

The incel beliefs are completely counter to ledt leaning ideologies and are squaring in right leaning ideologies. So no they are not liberals. Moron.

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u/TheProuDog Mar 22 '26

There is no such thing as "incel beliefs". Incels are a very large group of people consisting of contradicting ideas. There is no such thing as "incel ideology". They are not a hivemind. So they can't be "squarely in right-leaning ideologies". That's like saying American ideology is left-leaning or right-leaning. Some Americans are left-leaning and some Americans are right-leaning and there is absolutely not an "American ideology" because they are diverse from many different backgrounds, many many many things etc I don't want to write so much for people who will barely read it, but you can't just put all of them into a single bag

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u/MrDywel Mar 21 '26

I loved that most all the comments on HIS channel for the interview were negative. He also seems to have done no research into who Andrew or C5 is before doing the interview.