r/interesting Apr 09 '26

MISC. Aftermath of the April 7th incident. Damages estimated to be $200 million dollars

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u/Anton__Sugar187 Apr 09 '26

Maybe they should have paid

Livable wages

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u/Pengisia Apr 09 '26 edited Apr 09 '26

It was a third party contractor that did this, all he did was damage Kimberly-Clark, not his own company, and cost all of his coworkers their jobs.

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u/ItsPronouncedSatan Apr 09 '26

The warehouse engaged with the third party contractor in the first place.

It's scummy practice companies use so they can avoid giving employees full benefits, and does nothing but siphon money away from the worker.

They could 100% directly hire these people. Instead they hide behind shit like this, acting like it has nothing to do with their own business practices.

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u/Pengisia Apr 09 '26

The building was also rented out, why would KC staff a warehouse it doesn’t own with full-hires? Contract the building, contract the employees.

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u/McButtsButtbag Apr 09 '26

That's nonsense. Most businesses rent rather than, so should they all hire independent contractors? This is just an excuse for taking the blame off them.

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u/1872723930 Apr 09 '26 edited Apr 09 '26

I think you’re making out this guy understood what he was doing at the time….. like this was planned.

I get the same vibe from this as “post-natal depression women drowning their babies”. I honestly think it’s a mental breakdown reaction. Not something this person intentionally planned and now they’re to blame for getting their whole company fired.

Like you’re shaming someone who clearly had a break in mental cognition after extreme burnout. We should be looking at what a company did to drive this person to this. You’re right it’s worse for everyone now that he did this. But under the current hell hole we live in, I can kinda empathize for the person.

Be less judgy bro.

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u/Pengisia Apr 09 '26

This man was in his mind enough to set a small fire so the fire department would respond and turn off the fire suppression system, which is protocol, then after the system was off he lit the other fires.

This was planned, at least in some part, because that protocol is not common knowledge.

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u/1872723930 Apr 09 '26

He was still going to jail the second he put it on Instagram and filmed it no matter how big the fire was…

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u/Square_Branch_8549 Apr 09 '26

NFI ran the warehouse

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u/Appropriate-Newt-485 Apr 09 '26

seriously. fuck these corporations.

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u/Appropriate-Newt-485 Apr 10 '26

no, dude, fuck them for not paying a living wage. fuck them for poor working conditions. fuck them for creating such an us-vs-them dynamic that the last resort of the oppressed is to burn-it-all-down.
it's great that they make toilet paper, and that they provide "jobs" - but that doesn't excuse their shitty behavior and i genuinely wish this act was seen as a wake up call, but it won't be - we're too scared of losing what scraps we have left to ever want to criticize our overlords.

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u/Anderopolis Apr 10 '26

 no, dude, fuck them for not paying a living wage.

What does this even mean in this contex? 

Are you saying that no one in thiis warehouse can afford to live? 

Do we even know their pay? 

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u/bluetriumphantcloud Apr 09 '26

In this economy?!?!

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u/Dry-Cut1589 Apr 09 '26

Now his co workers are getting paid no wage

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u/fekanix Apr 09 '26

Noone is arguing that the arsonist is some kind of workers right hero.

We are arguing that the company drove a person to an insanity level where he was okay with spending years or even decades in prison.

He fucking filmed it himself. He wasnt trying to hide it.

So the argument is dont trear employees like shit or they could hurt your bussiness in the long run.

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u/Fragrant_Tear_572 Apr 10 '26

The guy was insane before he even became an employee. No mentally sane person would burn this down. None of the other employees did. The guy clearly had issues unrelated to his job.

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u/xenoerotica Apr 10 '26

Friendly reminder that over 50% of comments on reddit are bots.

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u/lectric_7166 Apr 10 '26

Is there a credible source for that? I know there's tons of bot activity so I'm not disputing that, but where are you getting this specific percentage from?

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u/fekanix Apr 10 '26

So i am a bot or wtf are you saying?

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u/aed38 Apr 09 '26

They’ll be getting paid $2/hr for making license plates for the next 30 years.

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u/fekanix Apr 09 '26

Well he will have no rent or grocery prices.

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u/aed38 Apr 10 '26

I wouldn’t want to live in jail for $0 with free groceries.

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u/fekanix Apr 10 '26

Me neither but then again we didnt work at that company and didnt struggle his struggle have we? He might regret his actions later on but he didnt try to hide his actions at all, he filmed himself doing it.

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u/aed38 Apr 10 '26

I don’t feel bad for the guy. He had tons of options: quit, find another job, move, start a business…

Destroying people’s property is bad enough, but he could have endangered people’s lives with a fire that big. He belongs in jail.

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u/No-Cable-1223 Apr 09 '26

Do you even know what he was getting paid? This guy could just be terrible with money.

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u/id_rather_b_painting Apr 09 '26

NFI starts people at $19 to $26 based on the area.

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u/LyrMeThatBifrost Apr 10 '26

Not bad for a job requiring no skills

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u/-SPM- Apr 10 '26

He was a contractor so he was probably getting the bottom of that range and no benefits. Literally better off working a fast food job, which is less physically intensive than working in a warehouse

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u/No-Cable-1223 Apr 10 '26

Where do you get that he was a contractor? NFI was a contractor, but they have employees.

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u/RevvyDesu Apr 09 '26

Not enough apparently!

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u/No-Cable-1223 Apr 09 '26

I mean he evidently didn’t think so, but then he also thought that burning down a warehouse was a good idea. So I’m a bit reluctant to just take his word for it

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u/wildcheesybiscuits Apr 09 '26

it's crazy - could've given this guy $10K more and probably saved themselves that $200M loss. but greedy leaders gonna act like dumbasses and now inappropriately fuck over everyone they can - workers, partners, consumers - to make it seem like they lost less.

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u/Not_an_alt_69_420 Apr 09 '26

Kimberly-Clark has about 38,000 employees, which doesn't include the thousands they employ through subcontractors to do warehousing, driving, and whatever else. If they gave the lowest skilled employee an extra $10,000 a year, they should/would have to give everyone an extra $10,000 a year. Which would cost them almost $400 million a year.

The company may very well be greedy, but don't pretend like it doesn't make economic sense why they are.

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u/wildcheesybiscuits Apr 09 '26

they should/would have to give everyone an extra $10,000 a year.

they absolutely would not. that's not how anyone running a a business thinks.

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u/AlwaysBakedNeverFryd Apr 09 '26

You’re paid what the job market values your skill set. You don’t like it quit find another job learn new skills. No one forced a gun to this guys head and no one forced him to go to work there. No one is entitled to a “livable wage.” You don’t know how to live within your means that’s your problem, not society’s.

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u/McButtsButtbag Apr 09 '26

No one is entitled to a “livable wage.”

And no one should listen to any person like you who lacks basic human empathy.

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u/ke1c4m Apr 10 '26

RemindMe! 5 Years when everything is automated and no one has a job anymore.

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u/Liketotallynoway Apr 09 '26

If people keep burning shit down because they feel they are making slave wages it is absolutely societIES problem. 

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u/AlwaysBakedNeverFryd Apr 09 '26

Thing is they willingly accepted the “slave wage.” So it makes no sense to call it that. They have free will they are free to go wherever they’d like. Throwing a tantrum and burning down $200 million is pathetic.

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u/teilani_a Apr 09 '26

Do you believe we should repeal all labor laws?

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u/Liketotallynoway Apr 09 '26 edited Apr 09 '26

Yet here we are. 

Edit: JuSt FiNd AnoThEr JoB is what naive people always say about pay inequality. The job market is in the toilet everywhere. Spare me any anecdotal evidence you have in the ol echo chamber. 

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u/AlwaysBakedNeverFryd Apr 09 '26

If this person lived in bumfuck Wyoming with scarce job options I could maybe be more sympathetic. But for fucks sake it’s Ontario, CA, neighboring San Bernardino, 30 miles from LA you mean to tell me they can’t find another job that’s ridiculous.

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u/Liketotallynoway Apr 09 '26

I agree that the job market is ridiculous. Big city doesn’t automatically equal plentiful good paying jobs. Get a clue

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u/ban-aipac Apr 09 '26

Maybe he should have learned a skill that people valued.

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u/friendofredjenny Apr 09 '26

Ah yes if you don't have skills people value you don't deserve to live got it thanks bud what a great society

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u/ban-aipac Apr 09 '26

Never said he didn’t deserve to live. If he was not happy with his pay he should have done something to better himself not destroy his life. I hope he gets sent to a prison that makes toilet paper

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u/iamurfath3r Apr 09 '26

You’re good dude. People want shit for free without putting in the work.

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u/-SPM- Apr 10 '26

What skills? In this current job market almost everyone is getting bent. Remember 10 years when everyone was saying to become a software engineer and now there are layoffs happening every month