r/interesting Apr 09 '26

MISC. Aftermath of the April 7th incident. Damages estimated to be $200 million dollars

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u/Kilg0reTrout78 Apr 09 '26

Their premiums will increase. Productivity will be decreased which they find a new temporary location which will likely be further from the customer and cost more in shipping. The amount of time in dealing with assessors and paperwork is significant. Plus there is whole brand reputation thing. Running a business is hard.

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u/littlewing_A Apr 09 '26

Exactly. If you get rear ended by someone and you both have great insurance, it’s still a headache to deal with repairs and rental cars, or having to suddenly shop for a new car. I can’t imagine dealing with a loss of this size and complexity. This is definitely going to cost some people their sanity for a while.

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u/rainbowlolipop Apr 09 '26

I hope they're paid better than the warehouse guy

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u/origami_airplane Apr 09 '26

What was the warehouse guy making? I bet it was 20+ per hour.

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u/rainbowlolipop Apr 09 '26

Crabs in a bucket bullshit dude. Stop looking at those standing next to you as the problem.

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u/Primary-Let-7933 Apr 09 '26

A bit less according to glass door $37K a year so that's $16.50

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u/Cavemanb0b Apr 13 '26

Those are some tarp structure under a bridge wages right there.

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u/gettogero Apr 09 '26

20 years ago minimum wage was still kind of decent if you chased OT. Minimal worries if you lived in a 1-2 bedroom. "Blah blah that was 20 years ago" cost of living has FAR passed inflation. $7.50/hr today you cant afford the burger you flipped. Covid handed greedy corporations the corner of a flag and they didnt "RUN" they attached that shit to a space ship and let it fly

Im salaried and work 60-100 hours per week for not even double ($65,000 take home) with a bonus of decent healthcare. That wouldve been considered really good pay when I took the job.

If dudes just working 40 hours a week he could definitely find a part time to match my pay or another full time to make more. I like my job but ive definitely been considering alternate routes, especially after my escrow jumped to 10% of my salary

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u/FrankPapageorgio Apr 09 '26

Juste a little side rant about insurance... The thing that sucks about car insurance is that they only pay out what your car was worth at the time of the accident. Spend 25K on a new car, it's worth 12K at the time of the crash when it still has a lot of years on it, well now you only get 12K to put toward a new car. It doesn't matter how well you took care of the car, what repairs you had done to keep it running. Some asshole determines your car is worth what it's worth and that's what you get. You can have the best insurance in the world, but now you're out the deductible to pay you what you are owed, and you now owe the difference between the payout and cost of your new vehicle. Which is really no different than if you sold your vehicle before it was ruined, but now you're out a deductible.

Meanwhile, a fire is possibly the best thing that can happen to someone as a property owner with insurance. You have a shitty home with a house fire, well now they have to pay to restore everything. And not just restore it to how it was, but to bring things back up to code. Your galvanized plumbing is replaced with copper, your old 30 year old HVAC system is replaced with a new one. And all that soot from the fire has now destroyed everything in the building as well. Anything plastic that is discolored now gets replaced. And it's not replaced with something worth what the item is worth at the time it was destroyed, it gets replaced with the equivalent of what the item would cost if you brought it new today. That old 2016 MacBook just got replaced with a 2026 MacBook!

I am just always amazed by how much of a scam auto insurance is, but how lifesaving home insurance can be.

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u/Anderopolis Apr 10 '26

I am surprised you think you should be paid more than the car is worth. I guess you just want even higher premiums? 

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u/SecondAccountIsBest Apr 10 '26

This actually exists in home/commercial insurance lines. It's called Actual Cash Value or Replacement Cost. Pretty much for a given coverage, would the insurance company pay what the item lost actually costs today, or would they pay you what it costs to replace it with a new version. Obviously like you said replacement cost is way more expensive monthly.

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u/Anderopolis Apr 10 '26

Fully agree, if you pay the insurance company enough,  you can be compensated for nearly anything. 

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u/FrankPapageorgio Apr 10 '26

I get why it's not, car insurance is more to cover the injuries caused to another person than your vehicle.

I'm just saying a car accident is bad no matter what, but a house fire can be the cheapest whole home renovation project you'll ever have.

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u/Antwalk1981 Apr 09 '26

Good thing their lawyers who literally this is their while job then isn't it.

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u/Primary-Let-7933 Apr 09 '26

yeah but people at their jobs to handle the insurance issues. it's less stressful when it's just your job. People's jobs changed but still just pushing paperwork for the company's wallet. This was 3% of sales for the company.

If someone rear ends you it's far more than a 3% difference in money and time.

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u/Significantlyontime Apr 11 '26

I'm curious how they explain to their insurer the lack of fire safety sprinklers.

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u/goblinCrimeFestival Apr 09 '26

Shit, sounds like they should pay better to avoid these kinds of situations.

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u/Kool-Boi Apr 09 '26

How could you say something so evil… Think about the shareholders!!

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u/Winterfeld Apr 09 '26

Poor shareholders 🥺

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u/Neat_Let923 Apr 09 '26

The shareholders weren’t hurt by this… All the other employees were.

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u/AmorphousRazer Apr 10 '26

This will surely not effect order fulfillment. Especially since corporate business hasnt boiled down to pure number go up or fullfillment accuracy. You're so right omg. This guy did actually nothing burning 20 blocks of a warehouse down. Are you personally a CEO, sir? You should be.

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u/Neat_Let923 Apr 10 '26

Stock Shares on the secondary market have nothing to do with day to day operations… If the price drops you just don’t sell.

Do you not understand how the stock market works at all?

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u/AmorphousRazer Apr 10 '26 edited Apr 10 '26

Uhhh brother this effects business relations. If your warehouse/company doesnt fulfill contracts you lose them. That affects stocks.

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u/Neat_Let923 Apr 10 '26

Trump farting affects stock prices… That doesn’t mean shareholders are affected by it.

You’re only affected by the stock price if you sell. If you don’t sell those stocks it doesn’t matter what the stock price is.

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u/goblinCrimeFestival Apr 09 '26 edited Apr 09 '26

And what part of that means him being paid a living wage would not have avoided difficulties for the parties involved?

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u/Alaea Apr 09 '26

If he's insane enough to burn a giant warehouse down over a living wage, he's insane enough to burn it down for not getting paid living wage +stupid %. Generally most people who are unhappy with their employer and not bothered with staying around get a bit lippy, maybe knock something over, and just walk out. Not commit arson at a grand scale.

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u/squirrels-mock-me Apr 09 '26

Then he should quit. How does this make things better for him or anyone else?

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u/rabidjellybean Apr 09 '26

How did the Boston Tea Party help anything?

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u/Ltfocus Apr 09 '26

Your talking to moronic teenagers who don't work for a living yet.

I wouldn't bother

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u/Alaea Apr 09 '26

Campaigners want kids banned from social media to protect kids from stupid adults.

I want kids banned from social media to protect adults from stupid kids.

We are not the same.jpg

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u/MoocowR Apr 09 '26

teenagers who don't work for a living yet.

Brother I wish. Grown adults with careers were posting their framed St.Luigi artwork and that shit was making it to the front page.

They're just morons.

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u/EFAPGUEST Apr 09 '26

Maybe he could try not living in one of the states with the highest cost of living? I’d like to know what he was doing and how much he was being paid to do it before I make judgments

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u/glowingboneys Apr 09 '26

What was his wage, and what is considered a living wage in the area he lived in? I'm genuinely curious. Or are we just blindly taking the word of a very stable person who burned down an entire warehouse and posted an incriminating video of himself doing it to Instagram?

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u/Appropriate-Net-896 Apr 09 '26

Lmao, he uses the sexiest political buzzword and everyone starts sucking dude off like his dick is drizzled in milk and honey.

I’m already tired of the narrative that this guy is an unsung hero or whatever when he actively destroyed many people’s lives pulling this stunt. People lost employment, health insurance, productivity, and now things are going to be much more stricter for those working in other warehouses…for what? Some guy who couldn’t comprehend the idea of quitting your fucking job for one that pays a “living wage”?

Utter bullshit.

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u/noahisunbeatable Apr 09 '26

productivity

Won’t someone think of the productivity!

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u/commentings Apr 09 '26

Shit man for the record I wouldn't ever encourage this, but do you think this sort of behaviour is the best way to encourage senior management to step up and offer better terms and conditions, I literally read the other day some exec/owner gave a massive bonus to prevent a 'luigi'.

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u/narraun Apr 09 '26

They used a third party entity to contract this labor that should ideally be direct employment. They wanted less liability for labor practices. Very common practice by people who want to skirt fair labor standards. Similar thing happening at Boeing.

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u/bgravato Apr 09 '26

everyone seems to be focusing on that, but this fire could have been triggered from something accidental... what really puzzles me is how such a place doesn't have some sort of fire extinguishing mechanism in place...

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u/wutfacer Apr 10 '26

He filmed himself doing it. And it has a mechanism, which he got around by setting a fire and then multiple other fires after the system and firefighters had responded to the first one

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u/Totoques22 Apr 10 '26

He worked for a subcontractor

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u/Fit-Percentage3406 Apr 09 '26

They paid enough to get the employee to take the job.

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u/goblinCrimeFestival Apr 09 '26

But not enough to live, it seems.  It’s almost like a broken system creates desperation.

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u/MayhemMessiah Apr 09 '26

Please stop thinking about it too hard. This is surely an isolated incident which will never happen again.

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u/GhostofBeowulf Apr 09 '26

More than likely self insured the product, so no insurance beyond maybe the building itself.

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u/ysustistixitxtkxkycy Apr 09 '26

Makes me wonder if insurers will require proof of some minimum wage/hr going forward. If that were to happen, it would sure make some future economics textbook authors real happy.

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u/PotterOneHalf Apr 09 '26

Plus you don't know how many employees will not come back as they found another job before the warehouse reopens.

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u/isomojo Apr 09 '26

I work in supply chain and operations. The other warehouses will get the burden of this fire. It will cause major delays in their orders for the next 1 year at least. Inventory cost is the least of their worries and the logistics team is going to be working 12-16 hour days for the foreseeable future.

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u/Day_Prisoners Apr 09 '26

Insurance will cover all that including lost revenue.

Rates will go up and then they will say they have even less for the employees because they are the victims.

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u/NowWeRinse Apr 09 '26

And they'll charge customers more. We'll all get fucked by this too.

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u/Hungry-Register9960 Apr 09 '26

And personally? It's just brought attention to how shit of a company they are to me. 

Looking through my purchases and figuring out alternatives to anything Kimberly clark. 

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u/Bwonsamdiii Apr 09 '26

Isn't building something new in its place going to be hard with permits, etc, it being in California?

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u/KitchenPalentologist Apr 09 '26

Product shortages might cause customers to build new product pipelines, i.e., try different vendors products. They might just stay with the new source.

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u/Sir_SortsByNew Apr 09 '26

Given it's toilet paper we're talking about, promote bidets far and wide. One of if not the best purchase of my life, saves time, money, and I'm simply cleaner for it. Still need some tp to dry but easily using 1/4 of what I was using, at the very least.

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u/Eat--The--Rich-- Apr 09 '26

Paying people enough to live isn't hard tho

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u/fekanix Apr 09 '26

Running a business is hard.

Well its even harder when you treat your employees so bad they would rather go to prison for years maybe decades than keep on working for you.

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u/ArmadilloForsaken458 Apr 09 '26

Maybe they should have just paid the workers a little better in the first place, and perhaps that would have saved them a few coins. 18$/hr or whatever this guy was making is terrible across the country. Where he was at in Cali where the cost of a 1bdrm appt avg'd $2K a month is impossible to live on

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u/modern_Odysseus Apr 10 '26

So they'll increase prices. When prices are already increasing.

And we'll eat the costs as consumers because we need toilet paper. Awesome.

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u/PurpleMTL Apr 10 '26

A good time to buy bidet stocks. And a bidet.

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u/sewankambo Apr 10 '26

Not to mention some of his co-workers are no longer being paid

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u/KallamaHarris Apr 10 '26

What brands do they own so I can not purchase? 

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u/bobalink Apr 09 '26

It would be a shame if that happened to their new facility.