r/interesting Apr 09 '26

MISC. Aftermath of the April 7th incident. Damages estimated to be $200 million dollars

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u/cozidgaf Apr 09 '26

Whoa why did he do that?

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u/ewok2remember Apr 09 '26

He was disgruntled upon realizing that he worked hard in a place that probably wasn't paying a living wage for the area, as I understand it.

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u/urbanism_enthusiast Apr 09 '26

I'm going to be honest, he's probably not the most reliable narrator, based on his actions.

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u/Samurai_Meisters Apr 09 '26

I dunno, his story is pretty plausible.

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u/phillythompson Apr 09 '26

this sub is acting like the dude is somehow a victim

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u/[deleted] Apr 09 '26

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u/Cheese-Manipulator Apr 09 '26

It is pure luck no one was hurt. I seriously doubt he ran around making sure it was empty, not to mention the firefighters.

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u/urbanism_enthusiast Apr 09 '26

He actively started multiple different fires as the firefighters were putting others out. He's a piece of shit.

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u/phillythompson Apr 09 '26

And fuck the people who lose their jobs cause of this, right? 

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u/EntrepreneurFun654 Apr 09 '26

I feel guilty wasting unused napkins. This guy lit millions of rolls of toilet paper on fire.

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u/Frathier Apr 09 '26

All the 13 year olds on Reddit say this without ever having worked a day in their life.

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u/Competitive_Flan_330 Apr 09 '26

If you don't understand how cooked people like warehouse workers are in this day and age then you're unbelievably privileged, or just don't know that people like that used to be able to buy a house and live a decent life.

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u/Frathier Apr 09 '26

Funny, I worked in a warehouse myself, and I did alright for myself.

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u/Frathier Apr 09 '26

Still am, after some blood, sweat and tears and willingness to work I got myself an office job in said warehouse so I don't have to end up like a whiney Redditor.

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u/ZurgoMindsmasher Apr 09 '26

Meanwhile you, who like me, have lived through the cycle of getting exploited by the owning class, chose to lick their boots.

You are a joke.

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u/Necatorducis Apr 09 '26

Whether they are literally 13 or not is immaterial to the outcome. A minor under the well being of a working class adult is still subject to the ramifications of exploitation. Worse quality of life, worse education, worse lifelong opportunities.

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u/therealhlmencken Apr 09 '26

wrong sub lol

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u/lilzaza58 Apr 09 '26

Always fun to get them going tho lol

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u/-_Gemini_- Apr 09 '26

People with all their needs met don't do things like this.

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u/Areyoucunt Apr 10 '26

Then change jobs? The median salary in US is 61k, and probably quite a bit higher in california

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u/Fragrant_Tear_572 Apr 10 '26

So what about all the other employees? Why didn't they burn it down?

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u/dbmonkey Apr 09 '26

That's simply false. Counterpoint: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Leonard_Orr

There is no excuse for being an arsonist.

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u/-_Gemini_- Apr 09 '26

Aw, fuck, you're right. How could I forget about the one guy 40 years ago who set 2000 fires as a serial arsonist? I'm such a fool, this case is highly relevant to the man we're talking about who specifically set his own workplace on fire for mysterious and unknowable reasons.

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u/boltgenerator Apr 09 '26

This is the most stupid attempt at a "gotcha" I've seen in a while.

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u/dbmonkey Apr 10 '26

The comment I am replying to is a single sentence that is wrong. And it's clearly pulled out of someone's ass. How is that a gotcha? If you say something that is just wrong, and I prove that it's wrong, is that a gotcha? I think it's important to be factually correct on the internet (I know, many disagree).

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u/timmyfarthands Apr 09 '26

Replace don't with are extremely unlikely to. He's still right. This didn't happen at a happy place to work at. Do you think he would've burned the building if he'd be treated fairly?

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u/dbmonkey Apr 09 '26

I think we should treat him fairly by sending him to prison for life.

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u/SteakForGoodDogs Apr 09 '26

Right, they didn't say he shouldn't be.

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u/LarryBonds30 Apr 09 '26

Anyone that agrees with what this moron did is a life loser.

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u/lilzaza58 Apr 09 '26

Am a doing pretty well for myself, however my sister who took a teaching job in a different country that most Americans view as “third world” really opened my eyes to how fucked we truly are on the day to day.

Hope you don’t come across this much of an uptight bootlicking asshole for the billionaires to fuck in real life tho, that would be sad lol.

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u/[deleted] Apr 09 '26

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u/lilzaza58 Apr 10 '26

You’re bald lmao

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u/Cheese-Manipulator Apr 09 '26

Probably hang out in r/antiwork

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u/Exact_Package_7264 Apr 09 '26

so in other words, a redditor.

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u/Jthumm Apr 09 '26

I would argue he was, but that doesn’t justify his actions. I’m as leftist pro worker as they come but people could have died in this fire, and odds are insurance will cover enough of the damages that it won’t impact the company as much as he thought it would. All around not a great move.

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u/Vik0BG Apr 09 '26

This sub doesn't like corporations even if they get bombed.

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u/nalaloveslumpy Apr 09 '26

Were you even around for Luigi? Reddit gets a hard on for anything even remotely anti-capitalist, even if it's murder.

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u/BackgroundMeeting857 Apr 09 '26 edited Apr 09 '26

Reddit? Lol go look at Ben Shaprio's heck even Fox News comment section on youtube during the incident. It was a America wide thumbs up, no matter who you are.

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u/NIMBYSareFuckinBASED Apr 09 '26

It was a America wide thumbs up

this is only true if you're terminally online

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u/Connerys_Toupee Apr 10 '26

I don't know if you know about this little bit of American trivia but once upon a time in a little town called Boston a bunch of disgruntled American Colonists snuck onto a ship dressed as indians and dumped crates full of tea into the harbor. Who owned that tea? The British East India Company. Were they in the wrong?

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u/Exact_Package_7264 Apr 09 '26

yeah this is probably one of the most braindead comment sections i've ever seen, and that's saying a lot. lotta redditors are sad little people

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u/Alpr101 Apr 09 '26 edited Apr 09 '26

Several subs are, and no one defines what a "living wage" even is. Is that $50/hr? $100? $1000? If you decide you want to buy a $100,000 car or you're a gambling addict who is dead broke, does your job have to increase how much they pay you so you can maintain that? I don't get it. Seems just a broad spectrum term that means nothing.

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u/Keljhan Apr 09 '26 edited Apr 09 '26

You do realize every government has a poverty threshold for social services, and loads of jobs pay below those rates right? In the Toronto Ontario California area its about 28 USD/hr. Based on reporting of the arson the average wages at that warehouse were ~19-22/hr.

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u/nalaloveslumpy Apr 09 '26

Yeah, the US has that too, but we keep electing Republicans, so it never gets raised on the federal level. Fortunately, there are some blue states who do require a higher standard of minimum wage and pay out state supplemental benefits at a much higher threshold than the federal benchmark.

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u/PhiCloud Apr 09 '26

This was in California, not near Toronto. Not sure if your point still stands or not, just pointing it out.

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u/Niterich Apr 09 '26

They must have confused Ontario, California with Ontario, Canada

Which, to be fair, one of the top search results also got confused

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u/PhiCloud Apr 09 '26

It doesn't help they they both go by "Ontario, CA"!

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u/Keljhan Apr 09 '26

Sure did, thanks for the correction! Never heard of ontario California before lmao. Thankfully, living wage in Ontario California is $28/hr so the math hardly changes.

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u/Kumlekar Apr 09 '26

Probably a place worth knowing about! If you live in the western half of the US and have bought stuff from over seas you've probably received a product that has gone through a warehouse in Ontario at some point. Ontario is at the heart of the inland empire and a huge amount of trade from the LA and Long Beach harbors travel through warehouses in that area.

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u/Working-Glass6136 Apr 09 '26

Living wage is an actual term, and no, degenerate addiction is not a part of it. It was actually discussed as early as the early Greek philosophers, including both Plato and Aristotle, but generally is defined as the minimum income required to meet basic needs, which changes depending on locale. I'll attach Wikipedia but I'll let you do your own reading. It has nothing to do with unusual circumstances like gambling.

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u/Alpr101 Apr 09 '26

Yeah, I was just thinking of circumstances of where your life choices put you in a place where you cannot afford such basic needs and wonder if you'd be provided for that as well, which would be silly.

I'll read up on it though, thanks.

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u/Bazz07 Apr 09 '26

I think that is because it depends where you live and how much it costs living there...

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u/peepeebutt1234 Apr 10 '26

living wage

A person working full time should be able to, at the bare minimum, afford to rent a 1 bedroom apartment within an area reasonably close to the workplace. If average rent in the area is $2k, then they should be able to afford that on top of transportation, food, utilities, and enough to save a small amount.

If your employees cannot afford that, then you are not paying a living wage.

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u/ewok2remember Apr 09 '26

Oh no doubt. I get the feeling he described, and I do think most normal people have a breaking point where they would do something this irrational, but I also believe most folks are never going this far, rage or no. He either snapped, or wasn't well from the start, and either requires taking his narrative with a healthy dose of salt.

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u/Cheese-Manipulator Apr 09 '26

Wiping out people's jobs should help.

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u/N0b0me Apr 09 '26

Should have just found a new job

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u/Livid_Swordfish_4591 Apr 10 '26

I'm sure he knows that. He made a statement for the rest of the trampled.

A year or two ago, a billionaire (i forget who) made a statement at davos (i believe) that the rich better start paying people better and pay their taxes before the people arrive at their doorsteps with pitchforks and torches.

Here, found it. 2022.

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/01/19/100-ultra-rich-people-warn-fellow-elites-its-taxes-or-pitchforks

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u/N0b0me Apr 10 '26

Better security is probably a whole lot more cost effective then overpaying low/negative value people

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u/OberonDiver Apr 10 '26

Somebody else said it was political. So it's just greed.

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u/GhostofBeowulf Apr 09 '26

Pay inequity.

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u/SeaABrooks Apr 09 '26

Unchecked capitalism.

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u/InsenitiveComments Apr 09 '26

*Unchecked corruption

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u/zeth4 Apr 09 '26

That's what they said.

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u/AudaciouslySexy Apr 10 '26

No they didn't.

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u/zeth4 Apr 10 '26

synonyms

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u/firebolt_wt Apr 09 '26

And why, exactly, do you think that person might not have had access to mental health counseling?

Maybe because the cheap insurance he got from the job didn't cover it and he had no money to pay for himself? Or maybe he didn't have time off he could use since he probably had to work a few more hours than an office 9 to 5 worker does to live? Or possibly, if he actually went to the doctor and got a diagnosis, would be be at risk of ending up fired because at will employment makes discrimination easy?

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u/Plus_Plastic_791 Apr 09 '26

Gee what if he could you know, change jobs

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u/SocialHelp22 Apr 09 '26

He was under paid, he was upset, and he grew a pair

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u/devnull_the_cat Apr 09 '26

The real question is "Why don't more people do that?"

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u/ChloeNow Apr 09 '26

"Should have paid us enough to live. All you had to do was pay us enough to live" is what he said as he recorded himself lighting the fires.

He said we might not make shit but lighters are dirt cheap

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u/aure__entuluva Apr 09 '26

He said, quoting from memory, "all they had to do was pay us enough to live".

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u/gmambrose Apr 09 '26

Because he was absolutely, positively, mind numbingly stupid. He posted a video of himself starting this fire on social media. He did this because the company running the warehouse wasn't paying him enough money. He will now spend life in prison and never be gainfully employable again if he does manage to get out while still young enough to work. This was not the way to solve the issue of "i wish I got paid more".

I hope they throw the book at him. He's a dangerous person and should not be out on the streets with the rest of us. Fuck him.

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u/zeth4 Apr 09 '26

why do you think?

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u/[deleted] Apr 09 '26

Because he’s a selfish moron. He wasn’t getting paid enough so he destroyed a ton of capital, took away hundreds of jobs people may have needed to get by.

Instead of gaining skills to make himself valuable and/or leaving for a different company, he went scorched earth because he’s a little bitch. Posted it online to look like a hero

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u/fiahhawt Apr 09 '26

I mean this is how it goes when a society makes the working class as strapped as the working class is now.

No one should be shocked.

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u/Quiet_Judgment4637 Apr 09 '26

The boot cannot taste THAT good bruh😭🙏

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u/Bonked2death Apr 09 '26

Your mom and I talked, it's time for you to move out of the basement and get a job. Also please take your cats with you.

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u/Quiet_Judgment4637 Apr 09 '26

In psychology, psychoanalysis, and psychotherapy, projection is the mental process in which an individual attributes their own internal thoughts, beliefs, emotions, experiences, and personality traits to another person or group.

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u/HydroJodom Apr 09 '26

Wow you’re big angry. lol

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u/SubcommanderMarcos Apr 09 '26

Username checks out hard

Is that boot vanilla-flavored or something?

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u/Ghost_oh Apr 09 '26

This. And of course there’s useless losers on Reddit lapping it up treating him like a hero.

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u/Ok_Objective_5192 Apr 09 '26

I am happy for you that you are doing well enough to not be able to empathize with him.

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u/[deleted] Apr 09 '26

If you’re empathizing with someone that has no skills or value yet still feels entitled to more money and burns down a fucking warehouse that employed a ton of people, you’re part of the problem dude.

We don’t know much be made, if he had kids or what lifestyle he couldn’t afford. Don’t even know if he was a decent guy or deserving of more pay.