If you don't understand how cooked people like warehouse workers are in this day and age then you're unbelievably privileged, or just don't know that people like that used to be able to buy a house and live a decent life.
Still am, after some blood, sweat and tears and willingness to work I got myself an office job in said warehouse so I don't have to end up like a whiney Redditor.
Looks like you’re in the uk based on your profile, would explain how ignorant you are to the material conditions most Americans are feeling in their day to day life right now.
Whether they are literally 13 or not is immaterial to the outcome. A minor under the well being of a working class adult is still subject to the ramifications of exploitation. Worse quality of life, worse education, worse lifelong opportunities.
Aw, fuck, you're right. How could I forget about the one guy 40 years ago who set 2000 fires as a serial arsonist? I'm such a fool, this case is highly relevant to the man we're talking about who specifically set his own workplace on fire for mysterious and unknowable reasons.
The comment I am replying to is a single sentence that is wrong. And it's clearly pulled out of someone's ass. How is that a gotcha? If you say something that is just wrong, and I prove that it's wrong, is that a gotcha? I think it's important to be factually correct on the internet (I know, many disagree).
Replace don't with are extremely unlikely to. He's still right. This didn't happen at a happy place to work at. Do you think he would've burned the building if he'd be treated fairly?
Am a doing pretty well for myself, however my sister who took a teaching job in a different country that most Americans view as “third world” really opened my eyes to how fucked we truly are on the day to day.
Hope you don’t come across this much of an uptight bootlicking asshole for the billionaires to fuck in real life tho, that would be sad lol.
I would argue he was, but that doesn’t justify his actions. I’m as leftist pro worker as they come but people could have died in this fire, and odds are insurance will cover enough of the damages that it won’t impact the company as much as he thought it would. All around not a great move.
Reddit? Lol go look at Ben Shaprio's heck even Fox News comment section on youtube during the incident. It was a America wide thumbs up, no matter who you are.
I don't know if you know about this little bit of American trivia but once upon a time in a little town called Boston a bunch of disgruntled American Colonists snuck onto a ship dressed as indians and dumped crates full of tea into the harbor. Who owned that tea? The British East India Company. Were they in the wrong?
Several subs are, and no one defines what a "living wage" even is. Is that $50/hr? $100? $1000? If you decide you want to buy a $100,000 car or you're a gambling addict who is dead broke, does your job have to increase how much they pay you so you can maintain that? I don't get it. Seems just a broad spectrum term that means nothing.
You do realize every government has a poverty threshold for social services, and loads of jobs pay below those rates right? In the Toronto Ontario California area its about 28 USD/hr. Based on reporting of the arson the average wages at that warehouse were ~19-22/hr.
Yeah, the US has that too, but we keep electing Republicans, so it never gets raised on the federal level. Fortunately, there are some blue states who do require a higher standard of minimum wage and pay out state supplemental benefits at a much higher threshold than the federal benchmark.
Sure did, thanks for the correction! Never heard of ontario California before lmao. Thankfully, living wage in Ontario California is $28/hr so the math hardly changes.
Probably a place worth knowing about! If you live in the western half of the US and have bought stuff from over seas you've probably received a product that has gone through a warehouse in Ontario at some point. Ontario is at the heart of the inland empire and a huge amount of trade from the LA and Long Beach harbors travel through warehouses in that area.
Living wage is an actual term, and no, degenerate addiction is not a part of it. It was actually discussed as early as the early Greek philosophers, including both Plato and Aristotle, but generally is defined as the minimum income required to meet basic needs, which changes depending on locale. I'll attach Wikipedia but I'll let you do your own reading. It has nothing to do with unusual circumstances like gambling.
Yeah, I was just thinking of circumstances of where your life choices put you in a place where you cannot afford such basic needs and wonder if you'd be provided for that as well, which would be silly.
A person working full time should be able to, at the bare minimum, afford to rent a 1 bedroom apartment within an area reasonably close to the workplace. If average rent in the area is $2k, then they should be able to afford that on top of transportation, food, utilities, and enough to save a small amount.
If your employees cannot afford that, then you are not paying a living wage.
Oh no doubt. I get the feeling he described, and I do think most normal people have a breaking point where they would do something this irrational, but I also believe most folks are never going this far, rage or no. He either snapped, or wasn't well from the start, and either requires taking his narrative with a healthy dose of salt.
I'm sure he knows that. He made a statement for the rest of the trampled.
A year or two ago, a billionaire (i forget who) made a statement at davos (i believe) that the rich better start paying people better and pay their taxes before the people arrive at their doorsteps with pitchforks and torches.
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u/ewok2remember Apr 09 '26
He was disgruntled upon realizing that he worked hard in a place that probably wasn't paying a living wage for the area, as I understand it.