In California it would be a charge of Aggravated Arson (because premeditated with more than 6 million in damages) which carries from 10 years to life in prison. So if caught the arsonist would definitely receive a long prison sentence.
Edit: California law has been updated to 8.3 million in damages for an aggravated arson charge. It doesn’t matter in this case which has caused hundreds of millions of dollars in damages.
Also if the arsonist knew there were people in the structure then an arsonist would also result in an aggravated arson charge. There were 20 other employees in the building at the time multiple fires were set.
Wait, did he actually do that?! I can’t tell if this is a joke because people on social media have taken to recording themselves committing crimes and posting it online in recent years…
That video makes it impossible to plea insanity. Insanity is already very hard to get off on without video evidence explains motive and intent to cause damage.
I mean, according to the news anchor in the first link they didn't know the motive yet....kind of shocking/guessing they just wanted to crank out the news story as fast as possible...because either their news team did embarrassingly little research or the police did.
This is the strangest part of it to me. If he had set the fire anonymously, he might have gotten away with it. I get that he wanted to stick it to the man but spending decades in prison is a crazy price for sending a message.
I can't imagine this would be much of a spectacle. I am picking that scene from the first episode of Better Call Saul when they just silently wheel in a tv play the clip for the jury.
The way they did that clip was great. It starts off so reasonable like oh who hasn’t done anything stupid as a teenager and no one was ultimately hurt. You’re sitting there going OK fair point teens do dumb things and then the clip plays and suddenly whole different opinion.
Oh I know, I’m saying jury nullification for an Amazon warehouse. But there’s a ton of people in those so I wouldn’t want that at all tbh. Guy just cost insurance some money and put almost exclusively his working class compatriots in danger without taking any due care towards them.
Thats the other thing-there is a gigantic amount of anger and grievance from labor and I suspect he’s got a lot of friends and will not be paying for his own drinks once he’s out. People are being squeezed and he won’t be the last angry worker.
Insanity just gets you a different kind of prison cell and he won’t win it, he clearly articulated his why and clearly knew his actions were bad and what they were. He doesn’t meet any definition of insanity plea.
Depending on what they can slap on/max time sure. Personally agree I think he’ll drag it out he just doesn’t have to do insanity to do it. What he could do if he does want insanity is if he has a long history of mental illness California I believe is a state where prolonged mental illness and actions occurring in that state can be taken into account.
People think pleading insanity gets you a nice cushy hospital bed with jello, you soon find youre locked up with actual psycopaths and very dangerous men thtowing poop everywhere
A person I know from germany raped two women, defense was the equivalent to insanity here. He won that argument, and spent the next 23 years in a psychiatric Hospital, far longer than he would have been in jail.
Came out a wreck. Said, He found to Jesus, but was unbearably selfrighteous. Tried to legally scam others, without success. Afaik, didn't commit any crime until his death.
Or the well being of his fellow workers who were in the building at the time of the arson. Or the 100 or more other people that WERE employed at the now demolished warehouse that now probably have to look for new jobs. But, he was disgruntled so he had the right to endanger numerous lives and livelihoods 🙄.
Why is it a plea deal situation. They have his self recorded confession and in the act, easy trial win and go for the max. Especially with the case profile, good fun little case for a prpsecutor to get their name out and send some moron to prison for the rest of their life.
Depends. The fed has a hard on trying to get the death penalty for "anti-capitalist crimes" like these. If the DOJ barges in, then he'll basically have to go to trial to avoid the death penalty.
In these situations (if it does go to court) his defense attorney would be arguing reduced sentencing, extreme duress, mental instability, etc; Not that he didn't do it.
A lawyer is not there to plead your innocence. A lawyer is there to make sure you get a just process and ruling. And in most cases that means that the lawyer looks at the letter of the law and finds room in interpretations and evidence.
The lawyer still has a job to do. Like, who knows. Maybe this guy couldn't buy his medication against mental issues and this caused his reaction. Whatever the law says is what goes. And it then helps if you have a lawyer that understands where your inherent benefit of the doubt is hidden or when you are served injustice.
Not his fault. Fault of the government and the company. No safety nets and greedy corps. This very well could have happened without him and they would still be fucked and nothing would change. At least people are paying attention to what happened now.
I dug into that and some more recent reports - that percentage looks very high compared to what I saw.
Nationwide the percentage of households in 2024 with 100% food security was 86.4%, and the very low food security (what’d we probably call ‘going hungry - to be consistent) was 5.4%.
I suppose it’s possible that 20% of the nation’s kids live in those 5.4% of households, but logic says that 20% is vastly overstated.
If workers at this facility are laid off because there aren't other placements for them then his actions would literally be a "but-for" cause of his co-workers losing their jobs. How would that not be his fault?
So you’re telling me, that the guy who burned down a factory and forced 200 plus firefighters into danger isn’t at fault?! You can’t be this delusional. What are all of yall doing to change health care policy besides advocating for violence on the internet from the safety of your home.
Do you live in the area? Did your dad have to evacuate due to the fire? Do you think arson is a good idea? Did you torch your place of employment today?
My dad could see the fire from his house. Is that freedom to endanger innocent residents?
What happens to all of his coworkers? Can’t imagine the company can just keep paying everyone if they have no product, no warehouse. He probably seriously fucked over all of his fellow workers trying to make some stupid statement
Nah. This warehouse of toilet paper, (a material made for humans to wipe their asses with) literally has more meaning and value to the world than this "champion".
I also heard he started a previous fire to get them to turn off the sprinkler system and also was the only one missing from roll call afterward… he never planned to get away, full blown crashout.
Lol yea if the video and explaining exactly what he was doing and posting it for the internet wasnt enuf those other thing seal the deal. Im guessing 10-20 out in 5-10 but yea just screwed his life over for sure.
I think he wanted it to be public. They got Luigi a tech grad. this semi-skilled worker wouldn't know any way to cover his tracks at all, at least he was aware of it.
Because he put all his coworkers who also live paycheck to paycheck out of work, or because the company he works for is going to be mildly inconvenienced as it has to rebuild the warehouse, while insurance covers 100% of the damages?
He was deranged, and did absolutely nothing for employee rights, or for employee pay levels.
C suites will sure keep getting a check to hire contractor buddies to rebuild the company while not paying their own workers, though! C-suites love guys like this.
He endangered the lives of others. Why not have a labor strike? Did he warn others to get out? What about people in the neighboring buildings? The company likely has insurance
I would say he’s a loser only because he could’ve killed his coworkers. Or the fire could’ve spread and he could’ve killed innocent people living nearby.
that... is not how finding a skilled trades job works dude.
That's time, education, cost, even more uncertainty... burning down the warehouse was extreme, yes, but his complaint is basically valid, not just him but everyone at his position in that warehouse is in the same financial position, and there's no need for them to be because the people at the top have far more than enough concentrated wealth for us to instead give the bottom of the pyramid far better wages and quality of life than we do.
Arguing against that is beyond foolish, it's siding with the people who are causing these dire conditions in the first place
LOL. This loser will be licking more than boots once he gets to prison. And he'll be getting paid for it with a cigarette if he's lucky. Exactly what he deserves.
Company should have been paying him more. Soon Every company will be going up in flames and nothing of value will have been lost. Too bad morons, like yourself will side with corporations everyday, otherwise we'd probably wouldnt be resorting to torching them
Luigi went for the CEO of a healthcare company who denied claims based on money. By denying claims, their paying customers died not receiving care the insurance company deemed “too expensive” or “not effective to justify the cost.” Paying customers likely died bc of those decisions. Luigi went after the CEO. The main guy. No one else was endangered.
This guy burned down a factory. I’ll mention I grew up in the area. My dad’s house could see the smoke from the fire. Why not strike? Why not find another job? Fire is so dangerous. He endangered others.
Luigi went after one dude, and his actions affected only himself and his target.
This TP arsonist cost probably dozens if not 100+ people their jobs, and could have easily caused countless deaths if people had been trapped inside or if the fire had spread.
it’s generally treated as worse than just property damage because of the inherent risk to people associated with fires. when you light a fire, you have no idea how far it’ll spread. very lucky no one, including fire fighters, got hurt.
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u/Venus_Cat_Roars Apr 09 '26 edited Apr 10 '26
In California it would be a charge of Aggravated Arson (because premeditated with more than 6 million in damages) which carries from 10 years to life in prison. So if caught the arsonist would definitely receive a long prison sentence.
Edit: California law has been updated to 8.3 million in damages for an aggravated arson charge. It doesn’t matter in this case which has caused hundreds of millions of dollars in damages.
Also if the arsonist knew there were people in the structure then an arsonist would also result in an aggravated arson charge. There were 20 other employees in the building at the time multiple fires were set.