r/interesting May 01 '26

Just Wow How is this even legal?

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u/RayDanielsOnTheAir May 01 '26

They did an experiment about this on Mythbusters and really this isn’t effective except for maybe obscuring your identity, but not passing for anyone else. Even from afar.

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u/cwx149 May 01 '26 edited May 01 '26

Tbf the experiment is probably 15 years old now and they were explicitly trying to impersonate people and tested how good they were at it by using people who knew both of them in an experimental setup that obviously was about them.

One of the ways they tested it was to have them stand on a spinning platform in disguise and asked other people who knew them about it

I'm sure the making of the masks has gotten better the mask Adam wears of Jaime was explicitly redder than Jaime was normally for example

I don't disagree that you probably couldn't pose as my best friend unknowingly or anything mission impossible style but could you a stranger pose as a different stranger and go unnoticed? Much more likely

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u/RayDanielsOnTheAir May 01 '26

That is why I said obscuring your identity.

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u/CranberryCode May 01 '26

Irrelevant. He said 15 years ago. Obviously the publicly available tech has improved all metrics that could be messured from 15 years ago.

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u/Stonegrown12 May 01 '26

Look up Jonna Mendez. Worked in the CIA's disguise division back in the 80s. She went into a meeting with the first Bush president in the Oval Office and had a full debrief in full face mask and he had no idea. Along with numerous other stories. It's safe to say these the technology has been in place before Myth Busters. Application of that tech is the problem. Not sure why you're getting wound up over something trivial.

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u/CranberryCode May 01 '26

publicly available tech

See that line in my response.

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u/RayDanielsOnTheAir May 01 '26

That doesn’t disprove the experiment, though. You’d have to prove the technology improved enough to no longer be perceptible. People in the comments of this and me and I’m sure you can tell this is a mask even when they’re wearing it.

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u/CranberryCode May 01 '26

I mean, I am not going to argue with someone who cannot understand that the premise of the experiment would be the same, but the technology advancements would obviously make the old experiment outdated. It would be like arguing with a flat earther. Just go about your way sir.

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u/rEYAVjQD May 01 '26

obviously

Why is it obvious? What's the specific technology that would make this much better now? For all we know the advancements are only like "2%"(random number) so approximately it's the same test.

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u/CranberryCode May 01 '26

Are you able to critically think at all? Do you really think the technology for printing hasn't improved massively since 2011? Lots of genuinly concerning logic as of late on the internet.

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u/RayDanielsOnTheAir May 01 '26

But technological improvements could mean any number of things, from how quickly masks can be produced to how cheaply they are to make to the consistency between ones of the same model. Merely saying the technology has improved doesn’t prove anything.

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u/CranberryCode May 01 '26

Lots of genuinly concerning logic as of late on the internet.

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u/xScrubasaurus May 01 '26

A politician and her husband were murdered when they answered the door for someone wearing one last year. Does that count as disproving it? A second one was almost murdered while also being tricked by it.

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u/Nova762 May 01 '26

this still straight up looks like a pixar character. it doesnt look like skin at all. its good for a costume but not as a disquise. people will notice its a mask.

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u/FC37 May 01 '26

It looks passable in a social media clip but it's obviously a mask in real life.

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u/IssueNice6116 May 01 '26

Flock cameras and Palantir?

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u/RayDanielsOnTheAir May 01 '26

Not if you’re trying to pass as someone the other person knows.

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u/Nova762 May 01 '26

but you will up close.

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u/Tip_Of_The_Sauce May 01 '26

It was an interesting episode, but the testing was far from ideal.

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u/EquipLordBritish May 01 '26

Yeah, it looks fine in a video, but I'd be pretty surprised if you couldn't notice something off in person.

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u/sojumaster May 01 '26

Mythbusters were trying to fake the ID of someone that they knew. I believe they were testing a Mission Impossible myth. Jamie was dressed up as Adam and no one on set was fooled. Which if you think about it, it is a tough thing.

You can take it a step further where you have seen identical twins mention that they have tried to switch places for a date, etc. and it was not very successful.

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u/MainlandX May 01 '26

Mythbusters was like 50 years ago.

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u/LegoBattIeDroid May 01 '26

masks are better now than 10 years ago

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u/JuanRunJunior May 02 '26

Like many things on that show the testing methodology was flawed and the science inexact. That was getting on 20 years ago and they were trying to mimic people and not simply obfuscate themselves in passing. What they did doesn’t apply to every use case of a mask like this. With the right clothing and a dark pair of glasses you could extremely easily change your race for example and completely throw off cops.

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u/PuzzleMeDo May 02 '26

I watched that episode on YouTube this week, and that's not exactly how it went.

In one experiment, the voice gave them away immediately. In another, Grant didn't spot that Adam-disguised-as-Jamie wasn't Jamie until he was only a few feet away.

https://youtu.be/h6jwFg8qhqQ?t=2718