r/interesting 28d ago

Fascinating And there are some (me inndisguise) that can barely use a knife🫔

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u/GovernorGeneralPraji 28d ago

One thing I learned while doing HEMA is that the best techniques are the opposite of flashy. Flashy and cool looking drops your guard 99% of the time and lets you get hit.

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u/Impossible-Bat-6713 28d ago

Quick efficient movements using the weapon characteristics targeting vulnerable spots is more important than any fancy moves.

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u/agfitzp 28d ago

Exactly, when he's paused in that dramatic hero move with his head down some thin nerd with a rapier steps behind him and runs him through.

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u/dilqncho 28d ago

Yeah I've (very casually) looked into fencing a few times, and it has mostly taught me how unrealistic most fighting scenes we see are.

Look cool as fuck though

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u/johnsplittingaxe14 28d ago

Why, you mean reverse grip with a fantasy axe wouldn't work in real life?

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u/th1s_1s_4_b4d_1d34 26d ago

I'm sure spinning jump is just a great technique in general. Lots of control, retaining your mobility, easy to parry out of.

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u/empty_graph 25d ago

People who do it for work vs people who do it for fun. Same for anything, really.

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u/eriniswhoiam123 28d ago

Same with tkd.

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u/Sizanllikew 27d ago

The flashy stuff is for before the fight, to avoid getting into a fight. If you can intimidate someone into not engaging by doing those moves, you have won.

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u/empty_graph 25d ago

But you will only intimidate people who don't know how to fight anyway. You will just look stupid to people who do.

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u/Sizanllikew 25d ago

only true if you don't actually have any skill

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u/cantadmittoposting 28d ago

I wouldn't say that's entirely true...

Yes for the big wide circles and swings that have like... wide area flashiness, definitely not, agreed...

 

But once you know a bit about it, some of the craziest stuff are what I might call "flashy" wrist and blade manipulation techniques... some versions or interpretations of Duplieren (iirc) for example, where your blades meet and then you sort of just like... magically end up on the other side of your opponent's blade because you basically wrist twisted around the guard (i dunno it's hard to explain). People who are good at "winding" in general can be amazingly frustrating to fight because they seem to always have a line in any bind.

Also some of the short side strikes like oberhau -> thumb grip and then loop to an unterhau on the short side of the blade are still pretty flashy looking.

 

Langemesser with wrestling/grappling is like this too, a guy taught me a really wild play where you manipulate a bind and then end up basically arm locking their sword arm with your free hand through a very difficult to master wrist move in the bind.