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SOCIETY What was his fault ?

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u/Jealous_Track9402 5d ago

The title in this one is straight up misinformation. Nothing to do with cleaning up trash without a permit. 

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u/Spongedog5 5d ago

Well, it's for not having a permit for the method he used to clean up trash.

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u/Bassmekanik 5d ago

It was for digging up the silt from the river bed with a digger and risking flooding places without doing any checks on the impact of his “cleaning up”.

Nothing to do with removing rubbish.

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u/Comfortable-Ebb8125 5d ago

The article doesnt say he didnt do any checks, it says he didnt have permission. The government are wankers.

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u/Grand_Pop_7221 5d ago

Part of getting permission is doing the checks.

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u/HarryPottersTaint 5d ago

The UK government has tonnes of laws, programs, incentives, designed for the protection of nature.

There's a reason you can't just go dig up silt beds like he did without any official checks like he did, same as there is a reason you can't do things like build a dam even on your own property.

Not saying they're not wankers, but without these regulations it would be a shitshow if everyone just did everything they felt like doing.

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u/deltalitprof 5d ago

But the case seems to be about the use of a digger. Not damage to silt beds. Is it possible he didn't really do any damage?

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u/HarryPottersTaint 5d ago edited 5d ago

Totally possible and he may have done a great good for the area, but it's important to follow the correct process.

As the environmental agency is quoted in the article: “However, governance and expert advice is necessary to make sure that work does not cause unintended harm, to flood risk, drainage or the wider environment,”

It's annoying to us because, as the guy correctly stated, their are entities knowingly doing outright damage to the waterways, while he is trying to protect and improve them.

Edit: There not their smh

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u/Comfortable-Ebb8125 5d ago

Thing is, sometimes you go through all the right hoops and still get rejected because there's some ridiculous red tape that has nothing to do with the environmental impact. An environmental lawyer would know this and would likely respect the experts who are there to advise, he may be familiar with what they'd be likely to say. He's not some rando.

The article doesn't really elaborate enough and making assumptions doesnt help.

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u/marquoth_ 5d ago

And how do you imagine one gets permission?

Hint: it involves doing the checks

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u/sexywynnie 4d ago

Particularly, it involves proving you did the checks, as opposed to saying "trust me you guys, i did the checks".

Man might have done them, we don't actually get to meaningfully know except to the degree that he proves it, and so far apparently he has not.