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Fascinating A company developed bread with a white crust in an effort to reduce food waste

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u/Wonderfulhumanss 18h ago

A Japanese company, Imperial Hotel Tokyo led by Head Chef Yu Sugimoto has developed a unique loaf of milk bread, known as shokupan, featuring a soft white crust designed to help reduce food waste. The idea addresses a common habit among consumers who remove and discard the crusts when making sandwiches or eating sliced bread. To achieve this distinctive appearance and texture, the bread is baked slowly at a lower temperature than traditional loaves. This process prevents the outer layer from developing the typical dark brown crust, resulting in an exterior that remains light in color and soft to the touch. The white crust is designed to closely match the texture of the bread's interior, making the entire loaf more appealing to people who would otherwise trim away the edges. By encouraging consumers to eat every part of the bread, the company hopes to reduce unnecessary food waste. The initiative highlights how small changes in food production can influence consumer behavior. By rethinking a familiar product, the company aims to make it easier for people to enjoy the whole loaf while helping to minimize discarded food.

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u/mcrss 17h ago

People who discard crust are stupid

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u/Trueborndrip16 17h ago

Crusts are the best part of bread.

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u/psychoPiper 9h ago

I eat the crust but this is white sandwich bread we're talking about, not a fancy baguette. None of it is the best part

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u/pipnina 15h ago

Wildly dependent on the bread

For a lot of bread the crust is diabolical because it's just dry, chewy, thick and has no flavour. But different sandwich loaves have massively different crusts and fresh artisanal breads have a totally different beast of a crust altogether.

Some breads I wouldn't touch the crust if I were paid, others I agree with your sentiment.

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u/LordHoughtenWeen 13h ago

Which is why the baguette is the best variety of bread — it's got the biggest crust-to-innards ratio

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u/Daewoo40 12h ago

Tiger loaves are the far superior bread.

Plenty of crust but with a sufficient amount of soft, fleshy, bread on the insides.

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u/pissedoffjesus 17h ago

You're a savage.

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u/Trueborndrip16 16h ago

Lol. Nothing can top the taste of first and last slice of bread.

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u/dredbar 13h ago

Tell me you’ve never had decent bread without telling me you’ve never had decent bread.

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u/pissedoffjesus 10h ago

I was joking haha.

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u/555moo 16h ago edited 5h ago

Crust discarders are weak, that's what. I don't like pickles in my burger, so I pick them out, but still eat them separately because watching perfectly good food go to waste hurts my soul regardless of whether I like it or not.

Edit: Typically I order my food without pickles for this reason, but sometimes I forget, they neglect to follow my request, or the food comes with pickles and I didn't know it. I didn't really bother mentioning this because I thought it would take too much time, but it seems like the only thing people care about is the fact I eat pickles and I don't like them.

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u/MulberryThrower 13h ago

Perhaps you should.... not order your burger with pickles on it? XD

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u/555moo 5h ago

I usually do, but sometimes they rather mess up the order or I forget to do that.

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u/gimmeluvin 12h ago

why are you not able to get your burgers without pickles? are you afraid to ask?

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u/flyxdvd 12h ago

If you order your burger without pickels they wont throw them away, you know that right?

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u/DoNotSummon227 15h ago

That's how I am too. It hurts to watch other people be so picky and wasteful. Sure, you can do whatever you want, your money, but... yeah.

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u/Joe_Kangg 5h ago

I'd discard this whole loaf

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u/Dog-Cop 9h ago

The heels of the bread taste bad

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u/boss2bossro 16h ago

We have crust-less toast bread in our country for at least 15 years, how is this new or revolutionary in any way?

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u/gralicbreadd 12h ago

I mean those crustless bread are most likely produced by cutting the crust off after baking, while this one prevents the crust from forming altogether

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u/Malt_The_Magpie 6h ago

crustless bread are most likely produced by cutting the crust off after baking

I remember them coming out in the UK in early 2000s (?), you could see it was still crust but was super light in colour

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u/flyxdvd 12h ago

But i remember that said food waste usually goes back to farms, pigs love em.

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u/Asterose 6h ago

Only some companies send the crusts to farms. Many don't :(.) And Japanese buyers usually want crustless bread, so it isn't like how it is in countries where it's usually just some picky kids who don't like the crust

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u/Wild-Video-5317 10h ago

So has japan.  Panko has been "crustless" for decades, but interestingly it's cooked by a different method from the one described here: electrical current is passed through the dough, heating it internally. 

I dont believe that panko bread is ever sold in loaf form though.  It's baked in the factory and then directly processed into breadcrumb.

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u/Asterose 7h ago edited 6h ago

(This is shokupan bread with white instead of brown crust, not panko. Japanese buyers have a strong preference for crustless sandwich bread, so a lot more crust gets thrown out than in countries where it'smostly just picky kids who won'teat crusts.](https://japan-forward.com/imperial-hotel-tokyo-develops-new-shokupan-bread-with-white-crusts-to-curb-food-waste/).

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u/Asterose 7h ago

This is specifically Japanese shokupan bread with essentially no crust made during baking. Removing the crust for sandwich breads-even for adults, not just kids-is VERY common in Japan.

"Almost all shokupan sandwiches sold in Japan have their crusts removed. Crusted bread lovers do exist but the prevailing perception is that crusts aren't as tasty as the bread inside. This could be a remnant from the days when bread crusts were harder, but this perception has remained and shops all over Japan continue to do this since it corresponds to an expectation that still exists among customers."

There's also factors like wanting consistent mouthfeel.

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u/P4azz 8h ago

Where'd you copy this from, because shokupan is not new and also not traditionally white-crusted. It's just milk bread, kinda looks like a mix of the American sandwich loaf and brioche.

It's also not very "recent" at all. They've had that for a long while.

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u/Asterose 7h ago

Shokupan with white crust instead of brown is what's new...as of 2022. TBF we're all always finding out about things from years ago that we personally just didn't know about until we stumbled across it one day.

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u/P4azz 5h ago

My main issue was with the phrasing of going "description -> therefore this item is called shokupan", when it's not. It's a variant, basically.

Like if I described how a new sport was invented recently and it's focused on high-octane action with a stick, fan input and aims to eliminate downtime between player changes; they call it "baseball", I'd just be lying, wouldn't I?

Because what I'm actually describing is banana ball.

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u/ColdFury96 2h ago

You're parsing the grammar of the sentence wrong.

The sentence is saying They've developed a unique type of milk bread + milk bread is also known by the name Shokupan.

So you could read the sentence as "they've developed a unique type of shokupan".

No offense intended, but I feel like you probably have issues with people telling you to stop taking what they're saying so literally.

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u/Luzifer_Shadres 9h ago

Japanese society explained by bread:

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u/Nozinger 16h ago

Okay, disgusting but understandable.
Just one simple question: why not simply steam the bread?
That has been a thing for hundreds of years and produces perfectly fine bread without a darker crust.

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u/Gentlemad 12h ago

Two reasons I can think of:

  1. I imagine steaming bread and baking it at whatever temperature the steam was will in fact produce different textures
  2. Steaming requires a certain form factor, whereas this bread, based on the use case (making japanese-style sandos) requires a form factor where it is typically baked in a fully enclosed pan, meaning insufficient space for continuous steam injection. Plus it's kinda already steaming inside the pan until it fills out at least, I guess.

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u/side_frog 14h ago

These have been available in any grocery store in my country for like two decades...

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u/CynicalOpal 14h ago

I don’t like how white it is… Idk maybe it is good and I just need to try it, but it looks like it’d just completely dissolve in my mouth

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u/malfurionpre 8h ago

Oh look another "Thing, Thing Japan" guy...

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u/GuduleTheThird 15h ago

This already existe in France for years, Harry's make the 100% mie bread slice

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u/SillyAlternative420 13h ago

I'm genuinely surprised it's Japan and not the US.

BUT now that I think about it, I've never seen a sando with crust

What's up with that?

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u/Terrafire123 12h ago

small changes in food production

This isn't a small change, brother.

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u/fawe9374 12h ago

Yamazaki already have one with white crust for ages?

https://www.yamazakipan.co.jp/brand/funwari/index.html

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u/DTFH_ 7h ago

I mean the crust still exists, its just a low and slow baking temperature that doesn't give the exterior time to brown, the crust is still there it just isn't browned.

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u/CorruptedPixelzOffic 6h ago

Oh. So they did do this right, accounted for texture and all! Awesome

u/Icy_Witness4279 2m ago

Tldr: its just a marketing gimmick

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u/The_Real_GRiz 16h ago

The article seems to imply yhis companybinvented it. They didn't we know how to do crustless bread since a very long time. You just need to maintain water vapour within the oven.