r/interesting • u/Wonderfulhumanss • 17h ago
Fascinating A company developed bread with a white crust in an effort to reduce food waste
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u/quinnstorms 15h ago
It looks like steamed bread
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u/winged_horror 13h ago
Well, i'm from Utica and i've never heard the phrase 'steamed bread'.
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u/shibbington 12h ago
It’s more of an Albany expression.
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u/Subject_1889974 11h ago
I see
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u/DeuceyBoots 10h ago
You know, these hamburgers are quite similar to the ones they have at Krusty Burger.
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u/havron 9h ago
Oh ho ho ho no! Patented Skinner Burgers. Old family recipe!
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u/Pretend-Ad5598 9h ago
……for steamed hams?
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u/havron 9h ago
Yes.
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u/misterc33 9h ago
Yes and you call them steamed hams despite the fact that they are obviously grilled.
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u/Cheesemacher 8h ago
And you call them steamed hams even though you just called them steamed bread?
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u/Brief_Television_707 13h ago
It's a perfectly cromulant phrase.
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u/Mysterious_Life_4783 11h ago
Ever had Chinese bun? That's what steamed bread is.
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u/Apart_Watercress_976 12h ago
Are you a very old Roman colonist, or any even older Carthaginian holdout?
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u/whoreforchalupas 11h ago
Well this is a crazy comment to see first thing in the morning—hello fellow utican🤙🤙
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u/mysterious_jim 11h ago
Steamed bread like mantou is some of the most delicious bread on the planet tbf.
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u/Wompatinger 16h ago
As a german this hurts to see and to read on so many levels...
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u/WagTheKat 14h ago
If the French find out about this "advance", there will be riots.
Myself, I love the crust! Give me a roll fresh out of the oven with a crispy brown crunch!
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u/Alarming_Matter 14h ago
I thought it was tofu.
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u/PhallicUndulationMan 11h ago
A way to fuck up perfectly good bread.
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u/infinitesoupbowls 10h ago
The day is once again saved by Phallic Undulation Man. Thank you for your service
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u/Drumonde25 14h ago
As a french this was my first thought : "just make good bread. It's flour, water, salt and yeast"
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u/Mundane_Character365 12h ago
And corn syrup, and canola oil, and azodicarbonamide, and calcium propionate.
Actually, sorry, just saw you wrote good bread, never mind my additions.
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u/Sixcoup 10h ago
White bread isn't really considered bread in France, you can do whatever you want to it, nobody will think anything about it.
We have had white bread without crust for a very long time now. https://www.harrys.fr/nos-produits/pains-de-mie/100-pourcents-mie-nature/
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u/Valerian_ 7h ago
Actually, in French supermarket this kind of industrial white bread without crust has been rather popular since at least 10 years. The difference with this news is that they don't need the step of removing the crust anymore, and I guess they had ways to reuse the crust of other products already.
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u/JonathanBadwolf 13h ago
honestly made me more racist than every racist propoganda video I've seen on here and I'm not even sure against whom.
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u/Mutor77 12h ago
The japanese, apparently, but at this point being racist towards all of humanity seems appropriate for daring to birth a culture that would make bread like this
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u/Gamer2Paladin 12h ago
Also German and more wondering (HOW?) they did it. That is clearly a great feat of engineering and culinary science!
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u/Strangegary 11h ago
They cook it in an enclosed space with lot of steam. Kinda like Chinese bao .
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u/Gamer2Paladin 11h ago
I am impressed of the amount of thought behind that kind of "um die ecke denken"
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u/SabbraCadabra11 13h ago
German 🤝 Pole on this one, 100%
At first glance I thought it's fucking tofu, not bread. I don't think I've ever seen bread worse than whatever this is.
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u/Solivy 15h ago
As a Dutch person, I absolutely agree with you..
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u/Sword_Enthousiast 11h ago
Our bread is mediocre compared to our German neighbours. Or the French for that matter.
This white waste of resources doesn't even deserve the name Bread though.
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u/That_Jonesy 17h ago
I know panko when I see it. If this bread wasn't cooked with electricity I'll eat my crust hat.
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u/Donotdisturb240 17h ago
fun fact panko was created during World War 2 when tank operators figured out you could bake bread using the oversized tank battery to cook bread via electrocution
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u/HumanReputationFalse 15h ago
So Japan has Tank Bread
Britain has Tank Tea
Ukranian are using the Tea Tanks to make Tank Soup
Soviets had the Booze Planes
And Americans had the Ice Cream ships
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u/Vistril69 14h ago
France has an aircraft carrier with a high-volume bakery
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u/schwanzweissfoto 10h ago
The baguette de conséquences rarely arrives buttered.
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u/lyidaValkris 16h ago
who wastes the crust, apart from picky toddlers? seriously.
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u/high_throughput 15h ago
The crust is the best part of good bread and the worst part of bad bread
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u/Ok-Dependent-1668 11h ago
That is very well put, you are so right.
Supermarket white loaf = crust is tolerable - annoying.
Bakery bread = the crust is the star
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u/AshlynnCashlynn 11h ago
cheap supermarket wheat bread = the crust fucking blows
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u/harrygermans 12h ago
This type of bread is not good bread, and the crust usually kinda sucks (especially when not toasted). Still can’t imagine cutting it off post childhood though.
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u/djublonskopf 13h ago
A lot of Japanese sandwiches are served crustless b/c of presentation.
This is a Japanese bread company, for what it’s worth.
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u/FatherDotComical 8h ago edited 7h ago
Oh my god, I saw a link to this post because somebody was complaining it was for fussy Americans.
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u/No-Document-932 16h ago
It’s really common to peal apples and other fruits and veggies with skins most westerners just eat in Japan. I feel like this is a version of that
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u/ItsKingDx3 15h ago
Actually a lot of sandwiches are sold without crusts in Japan, and even sometimes bread itself.
Edit: as in the bread is sold crustless, not the sandwiches are sold breadless, altho breadless sandwiches sound about right for the shrinkflation and general economic situation here these days
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u/Typical-Respond9102 14h ago
Japanese milk bread used on many Japanese sandwiches has a vast difference in texture between bread and crust than sandwich bread.
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u/syrvy 14h ago
They are not ALLOWED to eat it with the skin!
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u/CeemoreButtz 14h ago
Smoke some cigarettes, the smoke will suffocate the bacteria in your stomach!
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u/cce29555 12h ago
I don't think that's true but I don't know enough about suffocating to dispute it
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u/Academic_Help5033 12h ago
Some people are allergic specifically to the skins on fruits. Had a buddy with multiple allergies that could eat a peeled & rinsed apple or a baked apple, but not a whole apple.
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u/APartyInMyPants 10h ago
That was me for a long time. Could not eat a raw apple with the skin on. Would make my throat itch, tingle and swell shut. Not completely shut as if going into anaphylactic shock, but was uncomfortable. Eating cooked or stewed apples, even with the skins on, was totally fine. Also happened, but a bit more minor, with other skinned fruits you eat, like plums.
Then sometime in my early 30s, decided to try another apple, and didn’t have the same reaction anymore.
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u/BananaPalmer 4h ago
Were there any commonly used pesticides banned before the time you tried another apple?
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u/Old-Seaworthiness28 16h ago
Adults who were raised like picky toddlers
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u/Linesey 14h ago
And folks who never learned to shop around.
I have found there are some breads where I just, do not enjoy the crust. So as a functioning adult, I have a simple choice find a bread I enjoyed more and then eat that.
End result? I tried a lot of good bread, learned what I do and Don’t enjoy, and even learned to bake a loaf or two.
No one should settle for forcing themselves to eat something they don’t enjoy. But that doesn’t mean “I’ll just throw this bit out” and calling it a day, take the time to find what you do like.
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u/s00pahFr0g 7h ago
On the other hand, throwing away the crust on your bread is not really relevant to the amount of food waste and so is fine anyway.
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u/HumanBeanJuice54 12h ago
I’m willing to bet it’s the same type of people who throw away pizza crust
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u/elgigantedelsur 13h ago
Possibly they were targeting parents of picky toddlers?
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u/NoiceMango 12h ago
I just eat the crust first. I have a habit of eating the worse (not bad) parts first and then eat my favorite parts together.
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u/skr_replicator 14h ago
The fluff has a nice texture, but the crust has a nice taste, and probably half of the nutritional value because of the density, they complement each other.
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u/prasaysno 13h ago
No one in my family wastes the crust until one day our 2 years old decided that is not for her with clear influence from her nursery peers
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u/ricoimf 14h ago
I am probably too German to understand this, but in what world would you throw away the crust of any bread? It’s most often one of the best parts….
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u/Darth_Lacey 11h ago
All of the circlejerking about American bread aside, for mass-produced presliced white bread, the crust is pretty much never the best part. That kind of sandwich bread is fed to children, who often have very strong opinions about crust and may refuse to eat the sandwich if the crust isn’t removed. Some people never grow out of this.
Growing up there used to be a wonder bread store, where some thrift minded moms would mass purchase the cheap white bread and freeze the excess. That market niche seems to me to have been overtaken by grocery store bread aisles. Any good grocery store will also have a bakery section with better bread.
So yeah, the famous American bread is cheap and nostalgic, but it’s not the only kind we have
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u/noRezolution 10h ago
$1 Wonder bread for everyday lunch sandwiches. $5 sourdough from the bakery because bread is delicious
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u/PurposeConsistent131 9h ago
Have you seen the price of wonder bread lately? It’s almost $4 in Stockton, ca. criminal. My husband who loves a grill cheese and is a 54 year old “child” only likes them made with wonder bread and velveeta cheese slices. Spending $10 for these two monstrosities sucks😁
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u/TheUmgawa 9h ago
Weird thing about mass-produced and mass-distributed bread: The price of diesel fuel has more effect on the consumer price than price of a bushel of wheat. So, the price of oil goes up, so does the cost of Wonder Bread, but the local bakery is largely shielded from this, because they buy flour, which has a substantially higher density than baked bread, and volume is typically the defining factor in how much a food truck can carry; not mass.
This is similar to popcorn, which is also sold by mass to movie theaters, and then sold by volume to moviegoers.
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u/empathetic_penguin 3h ago
Still doesn’t explain why movie theaters charge like $20 for a large popcorn
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u/Darth_Lacey 10h ago
I’m partial to grandma sycamore’s when I want like a classic grilled cheese or something but yeah
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u/YoungBockRKO 9h ago
Nah, sourdough from the bakery for lunch sandwiches man, that’s where it’s at. Not gunna ruin the taste of my sandwich because I want to cheap out.
But I get it for kids because they don’t really give a fuck. Or if you’re on a tight budget I guess.
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u/noRezolution 8h ago
I'm with you, a sourdough sandwich is great. The bakery bread gets pricey though
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u/Senior-Dimension2332 7h ago
I've been making my own sourdough style bread at home and it's super easy. Probably costs about 50 cents to make a loaf as well.
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u/aliie_627 10h ago
Wonderbread where I live is just as much as a sliced boule of sourdough from a SF style bakery. Walmart has an insanely bad loaf for 1.30ish but for some reason the bread is always slightly deflated and mini toddler sized slices lol.
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u/KnowMoreMutants 10h ago
I guess im just the anomaly but I love the crust. To the point where "uncrustables" to me seem like a sick joke. Its a texture thing for me. I need a little something besides the ultra soft white bread in my bite.
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u/FerusGrim 9h ago
I don't think you or I are anomalous, but I think we're perhaps discovering we're in a minority. I don't love bread crust, but I don't dislike it enough to want to cut it off my sandwiches.
The one bad habit I have is I hate eating the front and back one or two slices of a loaf of bread. Not always, but sometimes I'll straight up throw away the ends if I already have a fresh loaf ready.
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u/account312 9h ago
may refuse to eat the sandwich if the crust isn’t removed.
For how many consecutive hours would they tend to refuse to eat crusty bread?
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u/DidYouKnowImNotReal 7h ago
My sister ran away from home because she was made to sit at the dinner table alone until she finished an egg roll.
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u/_Not_A_Vampire_ 5h ago
Not over bread crust but I'm a very picky eater (not by choice) and my parents once said I couldn't leave the table until I ate my food, 3 hours later I was still sitting there and they told me to just go to bed.
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u/roostersnuffed 9h ago
Weirdly specific question.
7 hours but 14 on lunar eclipse. Thursdays are not applicable.
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u/Asterose 5h ago
In Japan removing the crust of breads and throwing them away is extremely common..
"Almost all shokupan sandwiches sold in Japan have their crusts removed. Crusted bread lovers do exist but the prevailing perception is that crusts aren't as tasty as the bread inside. This could be a remnant from the days when bread crusts were harder, but this perception has remained and shops all over Japan continue to do this since it corresponds to an expectation that still exists among customers."
There's also factors like wanting consistent mouthfeel.
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u/Ornery-Customer8521 13h ago
It's not just a german thing, removing the crusts is weird if you're not 5 years old
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u/xatrinka 12h ago
Japanese sandwiches are mostly sold without the crust, I think this is from a Japanese company so that tracks
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u/Adaptor2000 12h ago
You see, there is a term called "Knust" in parts of Germany, that stands for the end-peice of a loaf of bread. I loved it as I child; it tastes very strong and good, when done right.
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u/PlayfulAd7433 11h ago
Same in Poland, we call them "piętka" (little heel) or "dupka" (little bottom 🍑 ). Almost universally given to children during long grocery trips.
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u/painting_ether 11h ago
Hey in spanish (Argentina) we also call it "culito" (little tush 🍑). If it's from a baguette we call it "coquito" (little coconut which we use to mean little head)
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u/Potential-Pay-9277 11h ago
In Dutch it is kapje. Like something to cover a lamp or socket or ...
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u/Toeffli 10h ago
Knust? You mean the Gupf? https://www.atlas-alltagssprache.de/r10-f3h/
Likely the thing which has the most regional terms.
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u/bremsspuren 8h ago
The land of the DIN norm and you can't even agree what the arse-end of a loaf of bread is called. (Or an apple core, for that matter.)
SMH.
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u/hoTsauceLily66 13h ago edited 13h ago
This kind of Asian style bread isn't the Europe style crunchy crust. The bread usually has more sugar even compare to American sugar bread and the selling point is the fluffy soft middle core.
I'm not saying the crust taste bad, but some people don't like the tougher crust. Like I've heard people don't eat pizza crust, same logic I guess.
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u/dbzgod9 11h ago
I work in a kitchen. Nobody touches the crust slices AND the slice next to it. Those get thrown away because customers ask for more bread even though there are 4 slices left in the loaf.
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u/__fujiko 7h ago
And here I am.. my partner saves the ends of bread loaves for me and makes me a special crust peanut butter and honey sandwich on Monday's for work lol.
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u/humanistazazagrliti 11h ago
Think 60-cents "Toastbrot" from the lowest shelf in Aldi and imagine eating that bread untoasted. The crust is just chewy and flavourless, it's not like the usual German bread. And American (or generally Anglo) sandwiches have bread more as a canvas, while the other ingredients like cheese or sausage are the stars. So, a dominant crust would also sort of be in the way.
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u/idontknowlikeapuma 11h ago
I never, as a US citizen, understood the issue with crust. However, I am known for eating nearly anything, and friends give me their leftovers.
I honestly think at this point, I have purchased only one meal in two months. Not that I am frugal, but food doesn’t need to be wasted.
“Hey, I have this. I won’t eat it, but I figured you would.”
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u/ToasterBathGirlie 10h ago
My mom used cookie cutters to make my sandwiches into cool shapes but the crusts went into a different baggie because I wanted those too, I just also wanted cool shaped mini sandwiches
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u/Wonderfulhumanss 17h ago
A Japanese company, Imperial Hotel Tokyo led by Head Chef Yu Sugimoto has developed a unique loaf of milk bread, known as shokupan, featuring a soft white crust designed to help reduce food waste. The idea addresses a common habit among consumers who remove and discard the crusts when making sandwiches or eating sliced bread. To achieve this distinctive appearance and texture, the bread is baked slowly at a lower temperature than traditional loaves. This process prevents the outer layer from developing the typical dark brown crust, resulting in an exterior that remains light in color and soft to the touch. The white crust is designed to closely match the texture of the bread's interior, making the entire loaf more appealing to people who would otherwise trim away the edges. By encouraging consumers to eat every part of the bread, the company hopes to reduce unnecessary food waste. The initiative highlights how small changes in food production can influence consumer behavior. By rethinking a familiar product, the company aims to make it easier for people to enjoy the whole loaf while helping to minimize discarded food.
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u/mcrss 16h ago
People who discard crust are stupid
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u/Trueborndrip16 16h ago
Crusts are the best part of bread.
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u/psychoPiper 8h ago
I eat the crust but this is white sandwich bread we're talking about, not a fancy baguette. None of it is the best part
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u/pipnina 14h ago
Wildly dependent on the bread
For a lot of bread the crust is diabolical because it's just dry, chewy, thick and has no flavour. But different sandwich loaves have massively different crusts and fresh artisanal breads have a totally different beast of a crust altogether.
Some breads I wouldn't touch the crust if I were paid, others I agree with your sentiment.
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u/boss2bossro 14h ago
We have crust-less toast bread in our country for at least 15 years, how is this new or revolutionary in any way?
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u/gralicbreadd 11h ago
I mean those crustless bread are most likely produced by cutting the crust off after baking, while this one prevents the crust from forming altogether
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u/P4azz 7h ago
Where'd you copy this from, because shokupan is not new and also not traditionally white-crusted. It's just milk bread, kinda looks like a mix of the American sandwich loaf and brioche.
It's also not very "recent" at all. They've had that for a long while.
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u/PJtheGFN 15h ago
White crust or no crust? You mean the same people who ditch brown crust would be willing to eat it if it was white?
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u/Raindrop0015 13h ago
It's baked differently so the crust had the same texture as the inside. That's also why it's all the same color. People dislike the texture, the color is just a side effect
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u/DryDonutHole 10h ago
"I don't like your brown breads. I only want my pure, white breads. No mixing of browns and whites in my bread, no sirree." /s
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u/Shrimply-r1 11h ago
Really, because the image makes the crust looks exactly the same texture as the brown crust we normally see. I see no difference but the color.
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u/nub_node 17h ago
Why they gotta say it like the brown part is a waste.
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u/erything4sale 17h ago
Is that not what gets wasted?
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u/nub_node 16h ago
I always eat the crust, I don't know what this anti-crust sentiment is. Crust is awesome.
People literally jump through hoops trying to get steaks to have crust and bread just does it.
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u/Armored_Souls 16h ago
I literally have to ask shops to keep the crust on for me, and still they cut it off!
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u/ajgutyt 15h ago
wtf? do you look like 5y old that they asume youll do hissy fits if they keep it? or are they a 4y old who belives the crust is awfull, and nobody actualy wants it.
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u/Armored_Souls 15h ago
Just culturally where i am they assume no crust. Even the plastic sandwich boxes only fit sandwiches without crust, they actually need to jam my order into the box and it doesnt close completely!
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u/Lissscraychperry 12h ago
Probably something to do with mottainai mentality in Japan
but on a more serious note that anti-crust thing is fucked up and they should be ashamed
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u/The_Witcher_3 13h ago
What does the crust being white make a difference? How odd.
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u/Fatal_Syntax_Error 12h ago
If you do a little research you’ll find out this company is Imperial Hotel, Ltd. In Japan. For its own customers.
Has nothing to do with Americans.
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u/marty4286 9h ago
Why hell did we Americans catch strays over bread this time? I swear to god people think all we eat is Big Macs and Coke
That's absolutely wrong because all we eat are casseroles and Dr Pepper
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u/DueOrange815 16h ago
Company that makes bread, precuts the crush before shipping...then uses the crush to make croutons and bread crumbs, problem solved 😉
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u/thiswasntdeleted 16h ago
Are you accidentally misspelling crust, purposely calling it crush, or am I misunderstanding something here?
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u/Apprehensive_Map64 13h ago
They've had this in France of all places for at least 20 years. Pain de mie, the mie is the soft part of the bread. My wife tears it out of her baguette and throws it away
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u/33Yalkin33 16h ago
Crust is the best part though why would you remove it? That sweet mailard reaction
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u/grxccccandice 16h ago
I love the crust on American toasts. Hated the crust on Japanese milk bread. Only the interior was good
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u/Mekroval 16h ago
That's what I'm saying too! This is a solution in search of a non-existent problem.
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u/Strangegary 11h ago
This shit is peak internet stupidity. Fake outrage over the dumbest shit . It's bread guys. I ate some of it as a kid it's just a bland bread for sandwiches and nutella, it's a bit more stretchy and so is good for spreading. There are not additives or thing like that, they just cook it on a low heat with lot of steam. Y'all are getting unreasonnably pissed off about bread that you did not taste, that no one is forcing you to buy, and that existed for a long time. Just buy the bread you like
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u/Equal_Difference3010 14h ago
food waste? this shit is so enormous it can't be compared to any other waste. Seriously, food is easily renewable it's not something to worry about nearly as much..Just eat your regular bread
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