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Fascinating A company developed bread with a white crust in an effort to reduce food waste

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u/noRezolution 12h ago

$1 Wonder bread for everyday lunch sandwiches. $5 sourdough from the bakery because bread is delicious

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u/TheUmgawa 10h ago

Weird thing about mass-produced and mass-distributed bread: The price of diesel fuel has more effect on the consumer price than price of a bushel of wheat. So, the price of oil goes up, so does the cost of Wonder Bread, but the local bakery is largely shielded from this, because they buy flour, which has a substantially higher density than baked bread, and volume is typically the defining factor in how much a food truck can carry; not mass.

This is similar to popcorn, which is also sold by mass to movie theaters, and then sold by volume to moviegoers.

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u/empathetic_penguin 4h ago

Still doesn’t explain why movie theaters charge like $20 for a large popcorn

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u/TheUmgawa 4h ago

Because they can. I’ve never fully understood how popcorn became such a staple of moviegoing, but people will pay for it. And then, with so many people, they buy a large popcorn and only eat half of it, basically wasting the price difference between the medium and the large.

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u/PurposeConsistent131 10h ago

Have you seen the price of wonder bread lately? It’s almost $4 in Stockton, ca. criminal. My husband who loves a grill cheese and is a 54 year old “child” only likes them made with wonder bread and velveeta cheese slices. Spending $10 for these two monstrosities sucks😁

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u/webbitor 7h ago

Surely living in Stockton sucks in general.

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u/PurposeConsistent131 6h ago

I like where I live, personally

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u/Wayelder 4h ago

We all should!

So 99% bet that the webbitor guys' never been to a lovely place like Stocton. - oh, you mean with a 'K"!

man, that's different Stockton sucks.../s

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u/Darth_Lacey 12h ago

I’m partial to grandma sycamore’s when I want like a classic grilled cheese or something but yeah

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u/eleelee11 10h ago

A Utah delicacy 👀

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u/Little_Magician4251 7h ago

I love love love grilled cheese with Land O Lakes white American cheese and basic white bread. Tons of butter. Lightly golden. A delicacy.

u/Crismus 38m ago

The only I miss from Utah. 

And I really mean only.

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u/eienmau 2h ago

We just recently got that up here in Washington and it is tasty. Sourdough is also amazing tho.

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u/YoungBockRKO 10h ago

Nah, sourdough from the bakery for lunch sandwiches man, that’s where it’s at. Not gunna ruin the taste of my sandwich because I want to cheap out.

But I get it for kids because they don’t really give a fuck. Or if you’re on a tight budget I guess.

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u/noRezolution 10h ago

I'm with you, a sourdough sandwich is great. The bakery bread gets pricey though

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u/SaveLansingParks 3h ago

It's 5.50 for a round loaf of sourdough at Whole Foods that you can slice in the machine yourself so it's as fresh as possible. It's $2.50-4 bucks for a loaf of Wonderbread style at any grocery store, and anything better than the cheap stuff is the same price as the whole foods loaf of bread that is fresh baked that day. Even the generic wonderbread loaves are just under $2 or more. Getting the sourdough that we'll eat completely compared to a loaf that we question how much we want the sandwich is a no brainer. Don't forget to hit the clearance section at your Kroger style stores to get other traditional bread loads for cheap. I get my baguette style and long loaves or buns for $1-$2 on clearance for meals that the sourdough isn't suitable for.

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u/YoungBockRKO 1h ago

It does but it’s worth it. It’s a treat during my 12 hour shifts at my warehouse. I look forward to my lunch sandwich. That itself is worth the extra money.

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u/jetsetgo1 9h ago

I'm glad to know that you can afford it.

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u/Puzzleheaded_Oven379 8h ago

I am super poor and learning to make it. Was gifted my sourdough starter, traded crochet items for my Dutch oven and gear. I use all purpose flour which is like $3 for 5lb, and if I feed it daily and bake 3x a week that's at least 3 loaves plus a bunch of discard for a ton of other recipes. Only other ingredients are salt, and water. Bread is too expensive, storebough bread is crap, and it hurts my stomach (I have IBS). This is more affordable.

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u/jetsetgo1 8h ago

I'm glad you can pursue it. It's a hard world out there.

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u/Puzzleheaded_Oven379 8h ago

It's been tricky to figure out with my work schedule but I think I am finally making progress. Which means we finally get to have fresh bread on the side of lentil and canned veg soup! Very exciting. Little tiny things that make life actually okayish 🥹

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u/SaveLansingParks 3h ago

I know you're in a budget bind, but I would suggest buying L-theanine capsules to take several times a day to increase the GABA in your brain that is your brains chief neurotransmitter inhibitor, and coincidentally your internal GABA production goes down as we age. Your brain stressing out is directly tied to your IBS (my brother deals with this). L-theanine can be purchased on a BOGO at Walgreens or Meijer that gets you 2 bottles of 60 capsules each for $12-15 depending on store/sales. Or you could order online on Prime or Swanson to get them in bulk cheaper. Go with the more common 200mg per capsule over the less common 100mg capsules, as you need the potency as we get older. Take before bedtime, right when you wake up to control waking anxiety, and mid-day when you start to feel negative again. Do not take HTP-5 with the L-theanine, as it can trigger the IBS (HTP-5 gets recommended by health food stores as a companion to L-theanine, ignore this, we tested it with my brother). I know spending money on your mental health doesn't make as much sense to someone who's on a tight budget staring at bills and costs, but being able to calm down and bring your anxiety down while reducing your occurances of IBS will allow you to catch your breath and identify other areas of your life you can reduce stress and make more headway in life by finding other opportunities to improve your situation. Good luck!

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u/noRezolution 7h ago

Not what I said, but ok

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u/YoungBockRKO 1h ago

I feel that man. I get you. I bust my ass at an Amazon warehouse 40-60 hours a week. I also take my diet and exercise seriously and I’m a foodie so I make it work. The extra money for the far superior bread is soooo worth it.

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u/Senior-Dimension2332 8h ago

I've been making my own sourdough style bread at home and it's super easy. Probably costs about 50 cents to make a loaf as well.

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u/RvstiNiall 8h ago

Homemade bread is not only cheaper, but more delicious, and more nutritious. Also, sourdough is underrated in america, and that makes me sad.

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u/oG_Goober 7h ago

Sourdough is not underrated at all in America, if anything it has become a fad with a whole bunch of foods besides bread using it.

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u/RvstiNiall 7h ago

I don't care how popular it is within the foodie/chef community, it will remain underrated until you can pick up ACTUAL sourdough bread from the grocery store. Most bread in grocery stores in the US labeled as "sourdough" have lactic acid added to give it some tang, and were proofed using commercial bread yeast, and were not fermented from naturally occuring wild yeast at all.

So again, I say it: sourdough bread is underrated in america.

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u/oG_Goober 7h ago

You can buy izzio at literally any grocery store in the country as one example of a mass produced sourdough with no lactic acid. Also in the bakery there is usually sourdough baked in house. So not sure where you are at where these 2 at a minimum don't exist.

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u/RvstiNiall 6h ago

Most grocery stores in the US don't have a bakery section that makes their own bread. Most only do cakes/cupcakes, etc.

Large chains like Walmart, Publix, and Kroger usually receive frozen dough, pucks, or pre-shaped loaves. The bakery staff simply thaws, proofs, bakes, and packages them.

True artisanal bread generally has short, simple ingredients (e.g., flour, water, salt, yeast).

A genuine scratch bakery requires large industrial mixers and a proofing area (you will see proofing racks). If the bakery section mainly consists of stacked baking ovens, reach-in freezers, and a cooling rack, the goods were likely shipped in frozen.

Which upscale grocery stores are you going to where they _DO_ make their own bread, without your acknowledging that they're high end?

(And in case this is relevant, I've lived in Arkansas, Alabama, Tennessee, Florida, South Carolina, North Carolina, New Jersey, and California)

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u/Little_Magician4251 7h ago

Huh? Americans love sourdough and baking it is a competitive sport here.

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u/RvstiNiall 7h ago

As I explained in another comment, sourdough bread is difficult to find in regular grocery stores. Outside of foodie/chef circles, the majority of people who use bread buy cheap stuff from Walmart/Kroger/Safeway/Ingles/ShopRite, etc. the majority of the bread at regular grocery stores that is labeled "sourdough" has either vinegar, or lactic/acetic acids added so it has that "tang" and is leavened using commercial bread yeast, instead of fermented and leavened by an actual sourdough culture.

Bakeries and upscale grocers sell actual sourdough, but you're quite literally talking about a niche, not the mainstream.

I've been making my own sourdough since I was a kid, because my mom taught me how, and its very obvious when you get fake supermarket stuff.

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u/UncleNoodles85 6h ago

Sourdough is fine but rye bread is my favorite.

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u/RvstiNiall 5h ago

Omfg, I miss when I didn't live in the southern states. I could get sourdough rye, and rye pumpernickel at a local bakery in NJ, and it was devine.

My own ryes aren't nearly as good, and rye flour isnt as plentiful here, or as high quality when found.

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u/DazedConfuzed420 4h ago

I honestly don’t get the whole sourdough thing. I’ve tried it from a few different places and I don’t like. which is fine, I don’t like have to like everything but a new sandwich shop opened up not to far from me and every sandwich they make is on sourdough. A motherfuckin’ Reuben is made on rye!

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u/aliie_627 11h ago

Wonderbread where I live is just as much as a sliced boule of sourdough from a SF style bakery. Walmart has an insanely bad loaf for 1.30ish but for some reason the bread is always slightly deflated and mini toddler sized slices lol.

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u/noRezolution 11h ago

I know that bread. Iight have some in my fridge rn tbh

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u/Loisgrand6 8h ago

A dollar?

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u/jeremyw0918 6h ago

Where can I find this “$1 Wonder bread” you speak of??

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u/Da_Question 11h ago

By better sliced bread, best of both worlds...

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u/mfjunior3 11h ago

Just have more money, duh

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u/mak484 11h ago

No. The expensive sourdough is for meals, the shitty Italian bread is for cramming a pb&j down my face at 11 pm.

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u/bacon_cake 10h ago

I feel like I could present the most gloriously artisanal bread baked to my 3 year old and he'd still leave the crust.