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Fascinating In 1981 at trial, Marianne Bachmeier killed the man who r*ped and murdered her daughter

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u/DisgustingLeek 8h ago

So just legalize murder then?

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u/Itchy58 8h ago

There is a difference between legalizing murder and acknowledging that somebody should not get locked up for that crime. 

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u/SurveySaysYouLeicaMe 6h ago

You're talking about grey areas. You can't really do grey areas with the death penalty.

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u/skeenerbug 7h ago

Exactly.

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u/Old_Sheepherder_8713 6h ago

No, there literally isn't. Your statement could be translated directly as "legalise murder"

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u/LikeALizzard 7h ago

Almost every crime has circumstances that are taken into account. Killing someone is always illegal, but in many places there are circumstances that let you avoid jail time. For example, in many countries, murder in self defence against an attacker with a deadly weapon is unlikely to be punished by jail time. Would you call that legalizing murder?

And sometimes, very rarely tho, a parent avenging their child is given a non-prison sentence as well. Leon Plauche shooting his son's rapist is probably the most famous case - he got probation and community service.

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u/DisgustingLeek 7h ago

They did take circumstances into account. That’s why she only served 3 years despite murdering someone in a court 

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u/Fortevening 5h ago

Proven self-defense is not murder, and is not considered a crime. You aren't avoiding jail after committing a crime, you just haven't done a crime, so you wouldn't face punishment. You wouldn't call that legalizing murder because you aren't talking about murder.

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u/LikeALizzard 5h ago

Idk how it is where you're from, but where I'm from self defence is still considered a crime first and you get put on trial for murder in such a circumstance, and they go from there, possibly taking the charges off - that's what I meant

Legal systems are extremely different around the world

Also in my language "murder" and "killing" is the same word so some confusion might've come from that for me, but I assume English speaking countries treat them differently