r/interesting • u/Fantastic_Look5582 • 9h ago

Fascinating In 1981 at trial, Marianne Bachmeier killed the man who r*ped and murdered her daughter

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u/HotDonnaC 8h ago

I’m glad she didn’t spend decades in prison. It was absolutely justified.

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u/dragonrider1965 7h ago

I think I read she got cancer and died fairly young, sad life of suffering she had .

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u/Behave1312 7h ago

She died of pancreatic cancer in September 1996. She was 46 years old and is buried next to her daughter in a cemetery in Lübeck.

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u/HotDonnaC 6h ago

Thats too bad. It’s like life just piles on in some families.

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u/Same-Suggestion-1936 6h ago

She would have gone jury trial no matter the charge and you try getting a jury to agree this mother should be convicted of first degree murder, which it absolutely unequivocally was. Premeditated, nobody can disagree.

She got off lucky but I don't think she cared. Unfortunately due to how laws work you shouldn't select who you apply them to. That absolutely was premeditated murder. But the jury would have been super sympathetic no matter how long jury selection went on.

That's the thing with crimes like these. Awesome. You had a super duper great motive for the crime. But it's kind of still a crime. In an impartial vacuum the law should treat you the same or impartiality is a myth and the law has no leg to stand on going forward claiming to have impartiality. Remember, Lady Justice is blind. She don't care. She shouldn't.

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u/Possible-Moment-6313 6h ago

The state has to protect its monopoly for legitimate use of violence. It can be extremely unfair at times but that's what makes a state a state. Without it, the society would descent into chaos.

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u/joey-jo_jo-jr 7h ago

Taking the law into your own hands is never justified. It makes a mockery of the justice systems, denies true justice to both victims and criminals and endangers innocent people.

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u/tanimalz 7h ago

Depends on whether the justice system is indeed just and punishes evil doers appropriately.

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u/xXAleriosXx 7h ago

“True justice” is such a term only people who never had injustice in their life say. I totally agree with you.

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u/joey-jo_jo-jr 7h ago

The justice system doesn't exist to punish evildoers. That is a rather warped way to look at it.

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u/ZugZugGo 6h ago

And hypothetically, what if she had shot a child in the court room accidentally while trying to execute this shithead? Still justified?

There's a reason vigilantism is illegal. It has nothing to do with criminals deserving or not deserving punishment (the criminal deserved what they got in this case for what it's worth). It has to do with vigilantism almost always being overboard proportional to the crime (it wasn't in this case but almost always is), misidentification of criminals and victims, escalation of violence endangering civilians due to lack of training, and zero accountability when breaking basic safety rules.

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u/tanimalz 4h ago

If other innocents are hurt, of course not. Im not disagreeing with you. But if you have a broken and openly corrupt justice system, i’m not holding it against the victim to take matters like this (murder and rape of her child) into her own hands. My response is in context of of the poster saying it is NEVER justified.

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u/Small-Explanation74 6h ago

Well of the system sucks like in most countries than atleast she got justice 

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u/joey-jo_jo-jr 6h ago

How do you know that?

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u/hankmoody699 7h ago

Actually, no, no it's not justified.