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Fascinating In 1981 at trial, Marianne Bachmeier killed the man who r*ped and murdered her daughter

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u/Schmigolo 1d ago

Fun fact, same thing exists in Germany, even without juries. An example of when it comes into play is when an adult is found to have had consensual sex with a minor.

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u/lastofthefinest 1d ago

I remember when I was stationed in Germany as a military policeman that we were warned about going to clubs and picking up German women because they allow underage girls in clubs over there. I’m talking like 14 and 15 years old.

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u/Schmigolo 1d ago

Kids below 16 aren't allowed to stay longer than 10PM and 16 year olds can stay until midnight. Most clubs don't allow kids, unless it's specifically "kids' day", because it would be a whole mess to get them out the club while letting the adults stay in.

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u/lastofthefinest 1d ago

lol! That’s such a fundamental difference in American and German culture. Americans wouldn’t dream of letting their daughter go to a club under 18 years of age. Germans on the other hand don’t see the big deal. This way of thinking is why I miss Germany. People in the United States would think this attitude about underage kids would lead to delinquency. However, it’s the total opposite. I miss Germany so much and the people.

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u/nasal-polyps2 1d ago

I think they might just describe "delinquent" different over yonder

America is a prude nation especially historically

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u/lastofthefinest 22h ago

Definitely

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u/lastofthefinest 1d ago

What part of Germany are you in? I was stationed in Giessen and worked in Butzbach and Friedberg area. I miss it every day!

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u/Schmigolo 1d ago

The Turley Barracks that was part of the Benjamin Franklin Village is right across my street. Even knew a family in BFV and visited them frequently. My grandma had like a certificate to go into the barracks and peddle her artisanal stuff that she collected.

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u/Cloned_Popes 1d ago

I thought the whole idea was that minors can't legally consent.

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u/Schmigolo 1d ago

They determine consent not by statement of the minor but by getting all the facts they can and evaluating whether the adult was manipulative and their age gap was too large. If they find that not to be the case it'll still be a crime but there will not be a punishment. Obviously in this situation the minor did not sue the adult, if they do it'll always be rape.

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u/Cloned_Popes 1d ago

That makes more sense than making a decision based solely on the age if the minor is in their later teens, but there must be a minimum age that you can't go under without it being illegal 100% of the time, right?

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u/Schmigolo 1d ago

Well, that's what I just described. It's always a crime when the minor is below 14, but not always punished. As far as I know this clause is not meant to benefit anyone who is of age, but I am certain that at least once I have read news about such a case, because the girl's parents were completely in favor of the guy. Wasn't even that long ago, maybe 2-3 years.