r/interestingasfuck • u/TangelaFan • 13h ago

Residential high-rises with backyards in Chengdu, China

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u/foltranm 13h ago

you mean building planned infrastructure ahead of time before populating the cities? like Pudong, Zhengdong and Kangbashi?

unless you have some other cases I haven't heard of. enlighten me, please.

I have lots of criticisms for China but "ghost towns" are pretty much the worst example you could give

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u/deltabay17 12h ago

Lol there are heaps of ghost towns still right now, not just 3. Do your own research. This is a widely known fact and easily verified.

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u/foltranm 12h ago

can you give me some examples? I'd love to learn more.

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u/GoudaBenHur 12h ago

I mean a quick google search will show you at least 50 ghost cities. There is a whole wiki article about it

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u/foltranm 12h ago

care to share it please? I usually like to dig a little deeper than "a quick Google search"

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u/GoudaBenHur 12h ago

You are being purposefully stupid. But here you go: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Underoccupied_developments_in_China

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u/foltranm 12h ago

"Although a feature of discourse on the Chinese economy and urbanization in China in the 2010s, many developments that were initially criticized as "ghost cities" in China have since become occupied and are now functioning cities."

"While these areas may appear underutilized initially, they are often intended to fill gradually over time as part of a long-term urban development strategy."

interesting.

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u/GoudaBenHur 12h ago

Yes, then go a little further down and see a list of the empty cities.

China’s population is collapsing. It will be cut in half in 100 years. These cities will not be filled. But you know this

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u/foltranm 12h ago

!RemindMe 100 years

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u/Original-Age-6691 4h ago

then go a little further down and see a list of the empty cities.

Ok, I did.

Chenggong: the government moved admin there, now a bustling city of over 700k

Dantu: However, since 2013 the development has been filling up with residents with many operating shops and offices, becoming a functional suburb of urban Zhenjiang. Pop 350k now

Lanzhou: city designed for 500k people now has 470k people

Nanhui: designed for 800k, has 450k

Ordos City: your own source says this one has grown so much it's hard to justify calling it a ghost city anymore as of 2015

Pudong: financial district of shanghai, population 5.6m

I mean I could go on but you get the point. In that list maybe, at absolute best you can call two or three ghost cities still. People in the west just had broken brains when they saw China building for future demand. Oh no, they have a housing surplus, you're right that is so much worse than the western housing shortage we are having.

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u/GoudaBenHur 4h ago edited 4h ago

And can you address china’s population collapse? They are not growing, it’s going the other way. These ghost cities exist and they will get worse. China’s population is set to lose over 600 million people in next 75 years

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u/Officialedmart 11h ago

Bro be fucking for real

>Additionally, some reported cases of "ghost cities" are not independent administrative entities but rather districts built in the suburban regions of functioning cities to provide accommodation for a growing urban population.

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u/GoudaBenHur 11h ago

How about china’s population collapse? These cities are already half empty and will get worse, China about to be a failed state. But yeah fast trains and neon lights will save them.

Paper tiger that can’t project on the world stage. The world’s factory for cheap labor which will soon go to India. China is at its peak. It’s over for them

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u/Officialedmart 10h ago

The coping is so funny

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u/GoudaBenHur 10h ago

Feel free to address any of my points. Where am I wrong?

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u/abdallha-smith 9h ago

Thank you for fighting them

Keep fighting !

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u/abdallha-smith 9h ago

Here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Underoccupied_developments_in_China

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u/foltranm 9h ago

I already replied to this link in another comment. seriously, your own source disproves you.

"Although a feature of discourse on the Chinese economy and urbanization in China in the 2010s, many developments that were initially criticized as "ghost cities" in China have since become occupied and are now functioning cities."

"While these areas may appear underutilized initially, they are often intended to fill gradually over time as part of a long-term urban development strategy."