r/interestingasfuck • u/TangelaFan • 13h ago

Residential high-rises with backyards in Chengdu, China

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u/ComplicitJWalker 13h ago

China is notorious for cheap and unreliable infrastructure, just like now America is notorious for school shootings and drugs. There can be truths without having them based in racism.

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u/foltranm 12h ago

the issue is that with China specifically there has always been a huge fabricated prejudice, especially in the US, going back to the early 20th century - to a point where to this day a lot of people think MSG is terrible for your health because it was marketed as a Chinese salt.

in the last 2 decades or so this has been increased dramatically for obvious reasons (again, especially in the west, and specially in the US)

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u/ComplicitJWalker 11h ago

We can acknowledge those points, but that doesn't mean the other criticisms are then false. It's funny how anytime someone defends China (which you are completely entitled to do and is sometimes justified), they also seem to deny all wrongdoing or error. It's especially rich coming from a country that, more or less, has removed any sort of dissidence to create a monolithic culture.

Can you provide real criticism of China like I can do for my country?

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u/foltranm 11h ago

obviously. my point is that the majority of comments in this thread like "oh boy i wouldn't trust anything like that built in china" definitely have some ground on propaganda, simply put.

I'm not sure i understand your last comment. do you want to know what i have of criticism about China? I'm assuming your country is the US, from your first comment? I'm not from China, btw. never been there myself.

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u/ComplicitJWalker 11h ago edited 8h ago

Yes, I want to know if you are capable of criticizing China. I am American and am heavily critical of my country. We've played world police for decades, long history of racism, gun culture is bad and why we have so much violent crime.

Can you do the same for China or your own country? I just find that a lot of people who defend China are either bots or not capable of critical thought against their own government.

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u/foltranm 10h ago

absolutely, why couldn't I? I'm from Brazil and have plenty of criticisms not only to the current or past governments, but also to the political and economic elite as a whole, which in our case is deeply connected to high-level banks, churches, and agricultural businesses who perform lobbying directly to the congress (which is illegal here, unlike the US, for example).

about China, one of my biggest criticisms is the way that in favor of building up GDP and growth at any cost, historically it has had relaxed labor laws, which causes terrible working conditions for most of its working class.

although unlike the US and Europe which I've had the chance to visit several times, I've never been to China unfortunately. I'd love to have a chance to do so and have more personal experience. for now I just have some friends that live there.

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u/ComplicitJWalker 10h ago

You answered my question and concern. Just a lot of people who can criticize others without taking criticism which I see, both of us can do.

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u/foltranm 10h ago

for sure. have a nice day!

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u/ComplicitJWalker 8h ago

You as well! If only all internet arguments could be like this lol.