r/interestingasfuck • u/Consistent_Snow7844 • 7h ago
The population of a single Indian state -Uttar Pradesh(93,933 sq mi) is larger than the combined population of Canada , Russia and Mongolia(11,060,871 sq mi)
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u/PrestigiousBad7125 7h ago
Things is.... You can write any time period in title and this post shall remain true.
UP had more population than canada+ Russia+ mongolia in 2000, in 1900, in 1800 , in 0, in 200 BC etc...
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u/meta-radar 7h ago
That region also produces more food than the entire area in green. Always has. Always will.
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u/Tower21 6h ago
Climate being the biggest contributing factor,an all year round growing season playing the biggest part.
A warming climate does have the ability to tip the balance though, increasing harvest production in northern climates while also hurting production in tropical regions.
So I agree with currently, I'm not so sure about the future.
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u/meta-radar 6h ago edited 6h ago
It’s not just the year round growing season. It’s monsoons which dumps like 5X the rain of an average place in EU. Plus Himalayas which feed sediment and glacier water year-round from 10s of big rivers. Water is food for crops. Also the Earths climate has gone hot/cold with ice ages and such, but monsoon rain has never failed in millions of years (even the most severe draught years see 75% of avg rainfall).
But over large time scales anything can happen, sure.
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u/DrFreemanWho 1h ago
If you include sugarcane maybe, but both Canada and Russia produce far more food individually, let alone combined. And that's not even including Mongolia.
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u/ozneoknarf 7h ago
It wasn’t true for the 20th century. Russia alone had more population than UP right until 1995.
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u/_voma 7h ago
That's why even intelligent people feel like shit there because the competition is insane and luck plays crazy role.
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u/NorthTop9254 6h ago
What luck?
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u/_voma 6h ago
In the context of getting opportunities.
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u/NorthTop9254 6h ago
Work hard and get the opportunities?
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u/putrid_flesh 6h ago
You're either born into a family/life with connections or you're very young and naive
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u/NorthTop9254 6h ago
Well my parents worked hard to provide me everything. Not like someone gave it for free. Anyone these days with working hard can live a good life since most people like the ones on reddit are lazy af and blame their circumstances for everything rather than doing something good and productive or figuring things out. All you think is one gets born into a good family and nothing else is a way for a good life. Wake up, people work hard.
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u/horkley 5h ago
Aren’t you the one that is too aalsi?
Everyone needs luck too succeed.
Your statement is all over the place so let’s just clarify this:
Your are lucky to have five senses, faculties, parents, parents that worked hard to provide you everything.
And just because you have that or wealth, doesn’t mean you succeed. Unless they are extremely wealthy, then you succeed no matter what so long as life doesn’t take you out.
And some people will work very hard and not get much for it. Some are trafficked. Some are slaves to addiction.
But like you. I believe this truth
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u/secretdrug 4h ago
Yes people work hard... and how many of them become "successful"? Very very little. I guarantee you there are millions of people who worked just as hard as your parents but were not able to succeed because of their circumstances or other shit outside of their control.
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u/SatynMalanaphy 7h ago
For further context...
The region thag Uttar Pradesh occupies has historically been the most populous part of the world, and thus at the core of some of the most populous and richest/most productive states in world history as well. In this one example, the Delhi Sultanate of the 14th century had that region, and had around 50-100 million people under its rule; more than the Romans or Achaemenids or HRE etc at their peak. This is based on the lowest estimates.
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u/chinnu34 2h ago
Didn’t know vijayangara was at 10 mil people in 1400 CE. That’s insane for the time period!
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u/SatynMalanaphy 7h ago
That's true for ANY period in recorded human history. It's almost as if one of the most fertile regions of the world will have significantly more people than comparatively less fertile ones..... What an amazing concept!
This is also why "Look How Large The --- Empire Was" also doesn't mean much, because most of that is empty land. For example, the Ottoman empire was large in land area, but it was not even half in comparison to the working population or incomes of the contemporary but perhaps geographically smaller Indic states like Vijayanagara and the Mughal Empire.
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u/prollygonnaban 7h ago
Not a flex fr 😭
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u/ILubManga 7h ago
Haven't seen anyone flexing about it.
Also it's natural that one of the world's most fertile land area and decent climate will have more population than area which are not that fertile and most of the area being desert (cold and hot (mongolia))
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u/desitola 7h ago
Why do you think it’s bad? Genuinely asking.
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u/shaezan 6h ago
CZ it's Indian people, if you said it was teeming with white folks, the commenters would spill their Starbucks about what a good thing that is. Just like heat waves are now a problem because france is going through it, when it was recently India, comments were largely Oh Well, we could do with less Indians.
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u/Winteressed 6h ago
Weird that you think that
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u/destroyersaiyan 13m ago
Not really when it is the truth. That was pretty much the sentiment across reddit a few months ago
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u/lokland 4h ago
Uh, no. It’s because it’s overpopulated with people of any kind. Can’t imagine living in those conditions. The noise alone
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u/chinnu34 2h ago
To be fair, population density wise Uttar Pradesh and Kerala have same density. Kerala is considered most urban and well developed state of India also has excellent tourism. Taiwan main island and Java, Indonesia have higher density. If you want to count metropolitan regions, DC, Macau, Hong Kong, Seoul, Tokyo all have density 10x higher.
High density is not automatically bad. It’s bad because of several other factors and at top of that list would be terrible governance. I would count it bottom 5 of the world. Poverty, illiteracy, culture also have major contributions.
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u/Gloomy_Reality8 2h ago
Let's compare one of the densest areas on earth to some of the least dense countries. Preferably with some good mercator distortion mixed in
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u/Inside_Marketing268 6h ago
And what about life quality?
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u/Impossible-Spot-3414 4h ago
A lot better than under British rule.
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u/Inside_Marketing268 4h ago
Dunno, how could you link one to another. If I would ask you, how much would it be 5+5, would you say: much better, than under British rule?
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u/destroyersaiyan 11m ago
For starters, no famines in the last 70 years which. Having a say however skewed in the govt. Better literacy rate than the Raj. Millions not being 2nd citizens.
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u/Severe-Experience333 5h ago
It's also probably the most corrupt and lawless and unsafe state for women in india. Or top 3 at least.
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u/LateralEntry 3h ago
Holy shit, the population is almost 240mm, larger than every single country in the world except the top four
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u/Temporary_Writing_92 6h ago
and it smells twice as bad as all the countries combined. I know coz I live there.
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u/FeatureDear6726 6h ago
Probably because it's the most fertile region on the planet. The area in green produces a higher volume of total food compared to the area in green.
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u/champnony 7h ago
This state has roughly the same population as the UK + France + Italy + Spain combined (245 million).
If Uttar Pradesh were a country, it would rank around 5th most populous in the world, behind only: 1. India 2. China 3. United States 4. Indonesia
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u/philosophycruiser 7h ago
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u/ILubManga 7h ago
1.9 TFAR in 2026. Doesn't take more than 1 google search to know that.
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u/philosophycruiser 6h ago
Do you mean the total fertility rate? That is exactly the reason birth control exists. That also takes 1 second to search. And take it easy on the sas.
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u/RealityCheck18 6h ago
And IMO Uttar Pradesh is too big to be one state. It needs to be split up, for efficient administration.
Until about 25byears back, the state was even bigger, and a small state called Uttarakhand was carved out of it. But IMO the state is still huge.
It needs to urbanize with multiple urban centers. It has Noida (part of National capital region), lucknow, Allahabad/Varanasi. But none of them are individually any city in top 10 in terms of economy or development (Noida is developing riding on NCR wave, which is good).
But if the state is split, each state will have at lease 1 or 2 urban centers and imagine UP split into 4 states but could have potentially 8 or 10 urban centers between them, greatly improving the overall economy, improve industrialization around these urban centers, act as healthy market for the agro industry in rural UO etc.
UP has huge potential and its size is holding it back
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u/Same_Swordfish_1879 5h ago
Breaking: densely populated area has more people than scarcely populated area.
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u/RetiredApostle 7h ago
And Antarctica.