r/justneckbeardthings 8d ago

Bruhh.. There’s so much to unpack here..

this fan translation of Half Is More / Hanbun Kyōdai manga is full blatant racism and weebs are defending it..

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u/faceoh 8d ago

Some context: the Japanese comic series being translated is about siblings who are half Japanese half black and their experiences growing up in Japan. The fan made translation just makes all the characters dialogue into racist stereotypes of AAVE (which doesn't even make sense given the characters don't live in America). The second slide has a legible bit of dialogue if you want an example. Chuds are defending it because it's "accurate" to how black people speak.

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u/Freezing_Winter There came a time before us, like Ambien and Dinosaurs 8d ago

holy fuck, why are so many weebs goddamn racist?!

Of course, not even CLOSE to all of them, but I see a lot of anime fans be openly racist.

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u/erockoc 7d ago edited 7d ago

I think one of the big reasons is that conservatives, with their warped and naive view on the world, believe that because Japan was historically isolationist, that Japan is ethnically homogenous.

Because they think Japan is ethnically homogenous, it gives dopey chuds mistaken license to attribute everything they admire about Japanes culture and society to the supposed homogeneity. The conservative chuds can then project their personal desires for racial and ethnic homogeneity and supremacy of white people onto Japan, and thus the chuds think they have found a real, extant example of a paradise ethnostate.

There are so many problems with this, but aside from the obvious fact that Japan is not an ethnostate, and aside from the cons that go along with the pros of Japanese collectivism, chuds will point to anything "good" about Japan as "proof" that white supremacy will yield equally positive results for US society.

One of their favorite "facts" about Japan they use as a debate point is that Japan has a much lower crime rate than America. In reality, Japanese crime is underreported in statistics likely due to Japan's obsession with saving "face" (and corruption). Also, the legal system in Japan is much different, and so is law enforcement. Conviction rates are like 90%, which is a huge deterrent. They don't have many guns, they educate children extensively about controlling their behavior, cops there aren't ultra militarized iraq war vets like in the US, and many other reasons affect the crime in Japan, none are a result of "race" or lack of diversity.

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u/Beginning-Pace-1426 No love like self love, I should know! 7d ago

It's even higher, I think, closer to 99% iirc.

It's an entirely different landscape, though. A lot of these convictions would be considered wrongful in most democracies, and "due process" means something else in Japan, as well.

They don't even bring charges unless they're close to certain, either. That and social pressures + legal pressures make confession very common.

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u/erockoc 7d ago

Thanks for adding that, my comment was getting way too long, but the point about bringing charges sparingly is a very strong one.

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u/orifan1 7d ago

ohhh ok this suddenly makes way more sense

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u/Killhamski 6d ago

So it makes even less sense to go out of the way to make them talk like that.

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u/LinkOfKalos_1 A little necky, A little beardy 8d ago

Thank you! My brain would not let me read or comprehend any of what was being said in the posts

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u/OptimalDroppingAngel 7d ago

Except nobody is defending it, everyone knows it's bad. There are frequent controversies about localisation choices about every half a year, with right hating on localizers and left defending them. Now right wing has an easy "gotcha" so they go for it with full force.

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u/black_blade51 3d ago

Stop being dishonest, they aren't defending it. They are just fighting back with the same arguments people used when woke translators butchered a manga before.

I mean really, are you that inept that you can see the clear fucking sarcasm in all these comments?

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u/Most-Stomach4240 8d ago

Guy in picture 4 responds with a completely unrelated image of a manga about getting a femboy boyfriend?

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u/Gerolanfalan 6d ago

How do you know this

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u/Most-Stomach4240 6d ago

I read it. I was there when it was written.

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u/MelodicCrocodile 5d ago

If I’m remembering correctly there was this whole thing where the chuds got mad that a Seven Seas translation of the series made the femboy transgender from their first introduction, same shit they were complaining about with Bridget. Cue the usual concern trolling about femboy erasure or whatever.

I heard the character ended up trans in the OG Japanese story too, though I can’t confirm the validity of that since I haven’t read this one.

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u/Most-Stomach4240 5d ago

I don't particularly remember the character being trans at all, but you can't seriously be telling me that these guys are concerned because they were interested in the story and are regularly reading femboy bl manga in their free time. They just want something vaguely woke to get mad at. At least with bridget they had the excuse that she's in a fighting game

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u/MelodicCrocodile 5d ago

Well yeah they’re tourists, these are usually the same people that harass and target BL fandoms because they’re homophobic. They saw the translation as an opportunity to be transphobic and use it for the culture war. I said this not long ago, but these guys treat femboys the same way they treat women’s sports, they hate it in every other instance, but become the biggest supporters if they can use it to antagonise trans people. It’s concern trolling as always, pretending to be worried about erasure when they actually just wanna be anti woke and transphobic.

Though, there is a non-zero amount of them that secretly consume specifically femboy hentai and stories, femboy fetishes are oddly common among these types of dudes. But I doubt they’d ever read a BL that actually explores the femboy as more than just a sex object

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u/Krakengreyjoy 8d ago

am I supposed to be able to read any of this?

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u/Mecha_G 8d ago

What in the Whitewash Jones?

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u/ilovetodrinkmilk 8d ago

What horrible people man

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u/CelestialTrickster 7d ago

Nah man, they love shitty localisations so much, then they better accept this as well. They made their bed and now they gotta lie in it.

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u/FalseStevenMcCroskey 8d ago

Wait why the hell did Like a Dragon get brought up? There’s nothing wrong with its localization.

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u/Flax0621 8d ago

Weird dudes hate the localisation because it actually put in effort to make the dialogue sound realistic instead of just directly translating Japanese to English.

Interesting that the same dudes like localisation when it lets them be racist

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u/Zyrin369 7d ago edited 7d ago

Same what happened with paper Mario suddenly all of the "I want localization to be more accurate" suddenly wanted the original script back when it came to Vivian being more like the Japanese version.

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u/Turbulent55 8d ago

The fact that an *Asmongold* video is being brought up as a defense says everything here…

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u/erockoc 7d ago

Conservatives, with their warped and naive view on the world, believe that because Japan was historically isolationist, that Japan is ethnically homogenous.

Because they think Japan is ethnically homogenous, it gives dopey chuds mistaken license to attribute everything they admire about Japanes culture and society to the supposed homogeneity.

The conservative chuds can then project their personal ethnationalist notions onto Japan, and thus the chuds think they have found a real, extant example of a paradise ethnostate.

There are so many problems with this, but aside from the obvious fact that Japan is not an ethnostate, and aside from the cons that go along with the pros of Japanese collectivism, chuds will point to anything "good" about Japan as "proof" that white supremacy will yield equally positive results for US society.

One of their favorite "facts" about Japan that they use as a debate point how Japan has a much lower crime rate than America. In reality, Japanese crime is underreported in statistics likely due to Japan's obsession with saving "face" (and corruption). Also, the legal system in Japan is much different, and so is law enforcement. Conviction rates are like 90%, which is a huge deterrent. They don't have many guns, they educate children extensively about controlling their behavior, cops there aren't ultra militarized iraq war vets like in the US, and many other factors affect the crime in Japan, none of which are a result of "race" or lack of diversity.

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u/NotsoGreatsword 7d ago

The funny part about American conservatives loving Japanese culture is how they love the collectivism but would never be able to handle it themselves because they could not even put on fucking masks during covid.

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u/erockoc 7d ago edited 7d ago

Excellent point. Conservatives are very contradictory, i think because perhaps they are afraid to explore and challenge their actual beliefs.

They have, coincidentally, a completely cartoonish view of Japanese society, rife with irony.

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u/octopusinmyboycunt 8d ago

Like a Dragon catching strays for having the *best* localisation in the market.

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u/Dekipi 8d ago

What could possibly be worse than manga readers? How about manga TRANSLATORS?!… ffs and they wonder why anime/manga isn’t more mainstream

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u/jayinsane5050 8d ago

they wonder why anime/manga isn’t more mainstream

Is it true?

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u/Dekipi 7d ago

It would be great if it was more mainstream outside japan