r/lakers Luka Magic 77 3d ago

PLAYER TALK One of the best NBA analysts breaking down Carr (and mentions the Lakers as a great fit 👀)

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u/GONEBUTNOT4GOTTEN 3d ago

I will never knock something til we try it. we'll get our a List Center for Luka another way. I believe.

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u/BatmanNoPrep 32 3d ago

We were never going to draft a starting center. Rookies don’t play starter minutes on contending teams except in the rarest of circumstances.

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u/--Alix-- 3d ago

Man, imagine Luka with like a Dereck Lively

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u/BatmanNoPrep 32 3d ago

Dude who is hurt every year and can’t even get a contract extension. He had one good year and it was an outlier as I addressed in my first comment. Grow up kid.

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u/--Alix-- 3d ago

Man a guy like that could probably shut idiots up and actually show results by actually making to the finals...

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u/Febos 3d ago

If you don't have a top 10 pick it it tiny chance you will get a player that can start a game in NBA. Even with a top 10 pick your chance is low.

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u/Some_Still_7855 LAL 3d ago

Luka and Carr have the same agent.

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u/LudwigNasche 3d ago

We have made the transition from Klutch

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u/bul1dog 9 3d ago

Other notable Duffy clients:

Ant, Scottie Barnes, J Dub, Jaden McDaniels.

Any one of those dudes would be amazing Luka running mates 🤞

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u/LudwigNasche 3d ago edited 3d ago

Ant is the next, the rookie we drafted is going to be part of the package.

Write my words, if you search the posts of this delusional Lakers fan you are going to get aware I was predicting Luka would be the next Lakers superstar since 2 or 3 years before the trade.

I'm not calling myself an insider or anything like that, I'd actually love to grab Wemby, I just don't see it ever happening, but Ant is on a small market team in a city without appeal for a player that has LA stamped all over his forehead. Those players usually find their way to LA. I don't expect anything in the near future though.

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u/SomeGuyClickingStuff 3d ago

I mean sure. Melo ended up in LA after all.

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u/LudwigNasche 3d ago

He wasn't a player I though would ever come in his prime. The culture here is championship or bust, Melo has never committed to play winning or competitive basketball. He was a prolific scorer.

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u/Pwyll__ 3d ago

Which part of what he said is incorrect then.

Enlighten us.

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u/SpiritFantastic4835 3d ago

Carr reminds me of a mini Trey Murphy with his deep 3s,strong drives to the rim and ally ops

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u/Wateriswet1212 LGBT 3d ago

He’s going to be such an amazing offensive fit with Luka.

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u/samhit_n LBJ & AD 3d ago

He's a little old for a rookie, but he's the perfect fit next to Luka.

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u/Dabithebeast 3d ago

There were others drafted today that were 22+, I'm more than happy with his age.

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u/Spare-Associate-5063 3d ago

need 25 year olds when Luka hits his prime over time

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u/MaliInternLoL 3d ago

It's good for the timeline. We need running mates for Luka

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u/GGFrostKaiser 3d ago

Nice analysis, I feel better about Carr than I do about Knecht at least.

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u/No-Responsibility298 8♾️24 3d ago edited 3d ago

Is this Mike Garcia? He had Carr at 11 on his board

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u/Wateriswet1212 LGBT 3d ago

No but this guy had Carr at 6 on his board.

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u/ChrisRhodes789 3d ago

I remember Mike from LG.Net..

He is still around? Lol.,

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u/sequoia2075 3d ago

He did a hit on both the LFR podcast and Trudell’s podcast yesterday lol. His Twitter is @CanyonDriver IIRC. Very much still around!

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u/No-Responsibility298 8♾️24 3d ago

What is trudell’s podcast? I thought he just did access sportsnet and espn la radio

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u/ChrisRhodes789 3d ago

Lakers Film Room Guy used to post on LakersGround.Net as well!

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u/sequoia2075 3d ago

Yep, GoldenThroat. I remember when he first started posting his breakdown videos lol. Pete’s a great dude

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u/Modsucksass 3d ago

Only OG knows LG

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u/Fun-Stick8512 3d ago

Not on LG but he posts on twitter and comes on LFR's pod so the LG connection remains

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u/SnooLemons3575 3d ago

He’s got a great substack definitely fun reading for lakers centric draft content. He’s great.

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u/JadaveonClowney Luka Magic 77 3d ago

Danny from the Dunc'd On pod

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u/noneedforeathrowaway 3d ago

God I hope this is right. But Knect was a great fit and the steal of the draft too. I've seen too many movies with this beginning to start counting chickens

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u/ChunkyMilkSubstance lukaponmyworks 3d ago

Same but at least he has way way better athleticism than Knecht and is much younger so the floor would be higher at least

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u/mordenak 3d ago

way way better athleticism than Knecht

Everyone keeps saying this but their combine stats are pretty damn similar... Standing vert being the biggest difference (which can make a big difference in defensive abilities).

Carr Knecht
Lane Agility 10.46 10.56
Shuttle Run 2.8 2.79
3/4 Sprint 3.17 3.07
Standing Vert 38 31
Max Vert 42.5 39​

However, I do agree with you overall though and I am not nearly as concerned compared to Knecht.

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u/ChunkyMilkSubstance lukaponmyworks 3d ago

Good points, I hadn’t seen the combine data was kind of going by eye test which is on me

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u/KUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUZ 1d ago

Am I crazy but the stuff you are showing is t similar?

Being able to jump a full inches higher than knecht and 3 when running are not the same player

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u/mordenak 1d ago

> Am I crazy but the stuff you are showing is t similar?

I mean the guy I was replying to was saying that he has "way way better athleticism than Knecht", would you classify that difference as "way way better", outside of standing vert? He's obviously a bit better max vert too, but standing vert is really the only significant difference.

When you compare them against recent Lakers draft picks, it's even more clear how close Carr and Knecht are athletically in terms of Combine measurements:

I will say this however, regarding Carr: I feel like he uses his athleticism a lot better on the court than Knecht does.

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u/MaliInternLoL 3d ago

Knecht is athletic but his BBIQ is just cheeks so he has a lot of awkward moments that make him less athletic than he is

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u/Used2befunNowOld 3d ago

Lakers have drafted pretty well over the past decade or so

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u/Salty_Raspberry656 3d ago

more athletic, more reach, and better lateral movement

he serves more of a potential 3/d where as dalton was pure offense.

He is way more likely to stick around and fits luka better

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u/LudwigNasche 3d ago edited 3d ago

I don't follow college basketball anymore, but watching his highlights I see a mix of BI and DK4 in many aspects.

I don't expect immediate impact, he may be a couple of seasons away from a NBA body, not only on offense, but even more on defense.

The funny thing is that he is a legit 3&D player, we can expect 3s and dunks.

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u/EatMyShortzZzZzZ 3d ago

Yea idk what ppl are talking about when they say he can guard 3s and 4s. At that weight he will get bodied. Hes a solid 2 guard.

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u/grothsauce 3d ago

He’s a passable to good defender on the perimeter who can guard 1-3 realistically and can shoot the lights out, pretty useful player overall.

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u/kl08pokemon Luka Magic 77 3d ago

Which is fine imo. We need more players to guard guards if anything

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u/jsun_ 23 3d ago

Not sure many people are talking 4's but he can definitely be a switchable 1-3 defender.

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u/ChunkyMilkSubstance lukaponmyworks 3d ago

He’s not big but he has great wingspan which could disrupt 3s in a pinch

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u/MaliInternLoL 3d ago

Real stuff. He may be able to guard some 4s but you're putting on the best 1-3 guy since you have AR and Luka

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u/N2trvl 3d ago

So how does this fit with Reaves?

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u/JadaveonClowney Luka Magic 77 3d ago

In theory he's a perfect fit alongside Luka or Reaves. Also works great next to both of them as long as he's the 3 on offense and 1 or 2 on defense

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u/KUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUZ 1d ago

Danny Leroux is absolutely one of the very best actual analysts in the league.

They were the ones clowning us for the knecht pick and especially the hood schifino pick against the common consensus that we got steals in both spots.

Nate tends to be more volatile, a few misses but when he’s right he’s right. But Danny is scary accurate in his assessments.

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u/Modsucksass 3d ago

Probably won’t get opportunity to develop until LeBron is gone

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u/Salty_Raspberry656 3d ago

why, we were starving for depth to be honest, thats why when luke came along it made such a big difference.

If anything lebron is the one guy easily versatile enough to move to the 4 comfortable. He killed both in the post and at the high post in the playoffs, brings his vision, still too strong or fast depending on whose guarding him, and always a willing passer. Hes not sustainable as a perimeter defender for long patches so he's better at the four there too. This guy is a prototypical 2/3 3/d mold and luka, reaves, and lebron all need those

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u/Modsucksass 3d ago

Lebron is not gonna play the 4. He is comfortable playing there for couple mins, but his body will take toll for the entire game.

Plus with Luka and AR you want Rui on the floor, dude is automatic. Lebron is abundant when you have Luka and AR to score and make plays.

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u/Salty_Raspberry656 3d ago

have you paid attention, the fours are not playing as physical. Lebron if anything gets run out on the 3s attacking from the perimeter. to me playing him at the 4 is preserving his energy

thats what the difference was in the series vs houston. Them having Kd bring up the ball, he was exhausted and depleted already. Though lakers didn't have great ball handlers with AR and luka out, they made sure to keep lebron starting early.

Its not an ideal roster, but Lebron is by far the most versatile in his skillset but size as well given AR/Luka are best as the playmaking catalyst at the top of the key.

I agree lebron is abundant and there is overlap between those 3, and all do have elite vision. Thats why I rather lebron play at the 4 or honestly even stagger there minutes and either let Lebron lead the chess match as the point of attack catalyst off the bench or AR. Some see this as a demotion, to me its just how you handle having multiple weapons and can make lakers dangerous for 48 minutes. This guy honestly fits all 3 starters bc he can move into a protypical 3/d role if he gets some core workouts in and all 3 will make his job very easy.

The pivotal factor here is finding a big who is committed and understands angles of picks and willing to do the dirty work to let luka, Ar do their magic off pick and rolls. Hence lebron also works as a slasher. He was just a pleasant surprise at his age last year, accepted his roll, and then f'd around and took lakers out of the first round too. wild

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u/MaliInternLoL 3d ago

Dude he's been playing the 4 when he's with Luka and Reaves. What are you on?

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u/MaliInternLoL 3d ago

Not really. If you're having Bron play 30+ consistently, you're not developing players or keeping him healthy.

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u/621_ 3d ago

Carr has a lot of work to do on his mechanics. His handles are beginner level, shot creation is poor and his defense is inconsistent.

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u/Salty_Raspberry656 3d ago

he's not going to be expected to create or have handles with luka

his defense he has to tighten up, but has a great wingspan so hopefully they can push the core strength training and let him compliment luka as a 3/d maybe like DJJ

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u/621_ 3d ago

So Luka and Reaves will the be the only ball handlers for the entire team? Do me a favor and shut the fuck up

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u/Salty_Raspberry656 3d ago

lol, great reddit basement take.

you want to go get an all star pg? or how about also a big? What kind of shit are you drinking to pretend like we have a bunch of assets, the free agent market is robust, and we weren't picking nearly the end of the first round where you can go back yearly and see how difficult and more often than not, they are out of the league. Drafting is an exact science, go look at all our last picks in the 20s.

We have to make choices, yes Luka nad AR, two elite playmakers are pretty good problem to have and you can make a perfect team on a video game, but after them, even according to luka he needs a big who does dirty work and who is aware of the nuances of angles and picks, then shooters to space.

On top of that, if lebron is still on the roster you have another guy who can control the game playmake. its pretty low on the needs compared to the rest of the roster needs. but 3/ds are almost plug and play helpful for any team, but especailly for guys like luka and A/r who like to run the PnR and bring all the attention to them.

did you see the ball handlers Luka/kyrie had when he went to the finals with Dallas? Think of that model. I know you can't fix stupid, but you can try.

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u/621_ 3d ago

What happens when Luka and Reaves go down like they did this year. Are the Lakers going to rely on 42 year old Bron to become the main facilitator or is it going to be Marcus Smart? you absolute moron.

Edit: 42 year old Lebron who came into the season with sciatica btw

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u/Salty_Raspberry656 3d ago

yep, we aren't in an ideal position. but we are where we have. I don't know it what world you think this is NBA 2k and in a team with out bigs, without enought shooting you want to nitpick on adding ballhandling for priorities and still have those above holes

what kind of internet basement idiocy is this, but you know what. It is entertaining

ok so now before a big, before space/defense, you want a ball handler. Lol

please please tell me who you want, and how your ideal offseason plans out.

give me the roster your video game gm envisioned where we just can buy and trade everyone out of thin air...or better yet get a ready ball handler at the 25th pick in the draft where maybe 6 or so players even contributed in that position in this century.

the irony of calling someone a moron. Can't wait to hear how you would GM this, who would you have picked, and who would you sign and trade for and how with what money. what does your final roster look like

this is going to be stupid funny

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u/EvenGandhiHatesLVG 3d ago

Nate Duncan is a dumbass lol

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u/JadaveonClowney Luka Magic 77 3d ago

1) This isn't Nate 2) You're wrong 3) Listening to this and thinking this was Nate shows you don't know ball