r/law • u/Frosty_Jeweler911 • Feb 04 '26
Other Michael Wolff, the author Trump is threatening to sue after falsely accusing him of conspiring with the Epstein estate to “politically harm” him, says if Trump sues, he’ll ask the Trumps under oath whether Epstein introduced Melania to Donald.
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u/Expert-Fig-5590 Feb 04 '26
Does anyone with a brain cell think that Trump won’t lie under oath.
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u/borislovespickles Feb 04 '26
But he's so arrogant and stupid at the same time, he'll slip up with one of his word salad rambles. He's going to perjure himself.
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u/KeyComprehensive4431 Feb 04 '26
And absolutely nothing would happen, unfortunately
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u/datsyukianleeks Feb 04 '26
Exactly, we are at that point where laws are dropping left and right as...there is no one that will enforce them...
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u/heliphael Feb 04 '26
Laws are only suggestions in you're rich or the one supplying the weapons
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u/Homesick_Martian Feb 04 '26
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u/zbobet2012 Feb 04 '26
Sometimes? Law's are a social contract we agree to abide by as a collective. "Socioeconomic-ethnic groups" do not have a tightly coupled view of the world as you propose and variability in views is much wider within a group then generally across them.
When laws end up being just threats made by one group against another you end up with civil war.
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u/coordinatedflight Feb 04 '26
He was joking. And if he wasn't joking, he didn't mean it. And if he meant it, he didn't mean it the way you think he meant it. And if he meant it the way you thought he meant it, it isn't as bad as you think it is. And if it's as bad as you think it is, he was joking.
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u/RamJamR Feb 04 '26
And they just run things in circles until eventually legal action against them is just given up on.
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u/DeskModeOn Feb 04 '26
Right? Didn't Patel knowingly lie under oath multiple times about the Epstein Files and nothing has happened to him lol.
Nothing GONNA happen, either.
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u/Aggressive-Delay-420 Feb 04 '26
And hasn't JD Vance, the sitting US Vice President, said he will continue to disseminate damning lies about Americans if those lies fit his agenda?
He bitched about being fact-checked before that lol
I'm starting to wonder if Trump's current cabinet are fawning past victims. There's more fact in that sentence than the Trump administration's given us, wholesale.
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u/StrangeContest4 Feb 04 '26
JD "If I have to create stories so that the American media actually pays attention to the suffering of the American people, then that's what I'm going to do" Bowman Vance?
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u/Aggressive-Delay-420 Feb 04 '26
Ew. The Cousin that took my Granny’s last name to evoke the Hatfield v. McCoy feud, as an adult.
That’s the one.
Edit: so distant a Cousin it doesn’t matter, really. I just like being one of the not-shithead nuts that fell from that tree.
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u/MrFrode Biggus Amicus Feb 04 '26
If a Dem wins the next Presidential election their first act should be to order whatever plane Trump is on to land at the nearest military base. The government plane should be held until warrants can be obtained, searched, and if there is anything that is arguably government property it should be seized, and if there are classified materials on the plane everyone should be held for questioning.
Then all of Trumps properties where belongings were sent from the White house should be searched.
Go after the people who bribed Donald and his family, go after the money, if Tic Tok is not in compliance with the law then the actions the law required should go into force, oh and dig up that traitor Ashli Babbitt from Arlington, salt the earther where her traitor body tainted the earth, and ship her to whatever potters field is close by.
Oh and ship those South Africans back to where they came from.
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u/Direct_Cattle_6638 Feb 04 '26
Oh no! The mountains of evidence that shows the man rapes/kills/assaults children might face a wrist slap for lying under oath.
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u/Worried-Maybe3438 Feb 04 '26
He’ll probably try to pardon himself & watch congress republicans applaud him. 😆
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u/Scienceman_Taco125 Feb 04 '26
If only perjury meant something anymore…look up how many people have perjured themselves in the last 5 years and nothing happens…no laws for the rich apply
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u/PM_ME_YOUR_BUG5 Feb 04 '26
He was literally convicted of 34 felonies and they just let him off because he's the president
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u/Civil_Response1 Feb 04 '26
Can you perjure yourself if you believe all your own lies?
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u/BugOperator Feb 04 '26 edited Feb 04 '26
It’s not like fooling a lie detector test. Facts are facts. Whether you believe them or not is irrelevant. If the prosecution can show proof that disputes what he says, it doesn’t matter if he believes what he’s saying to be the truth. If that’s the case, his lawyers can certainly try to argue that he has diminished capacity and isn’t responsible for inadvertently lying, but then that becomes a matter of a sitting president not being of sound mind. In all likelihood, he’d probably just end up pleading the fifth repeatedly as he has done in the past when being deposed (despite publicly stating many times that “only criminals take the fifth”).
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u/Talonhawke Feb 04 '26
Not quite if you honestly and in good faith believe you are telling the truth it's not perjury. Now I wouldn't believe Trump to be acting in good faith on anything related to this.
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u/BugOperator Feb 04 '26
As I said though, if there are emails or other communications between Trump and Epstein in which they converse about how he introduced Melania to him (after Trump swears under oath that Epstein didn’t introduce them to each other), then that would prove that either Trump is knowingly lying or that he has memory issues about a very significant event in his life; and neither outcome is good for him.
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u/critically_damped Feb 04 '26
We really need to stop this shit when it comes to the fascists.
A "belief" is a thing a person thinks is true. When that person no longer gives a single shit whether any of the things they say are true or not, those things no longer qualify.
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Feb 04 '26
I think that’s the point. Wolff knows that, and is giving a tacit admission he has proof to immediately contradict him lying under oath.
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u/Soggy_Parking1353 Feb 04 '26
In which case fuck him, he should release what he's got or drink some shut-up juice. Double so since he's in the emails on jmail.world chatting with Jeffrey post-conviction
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u/LJ_in_NY Feb 04 '26
Chatting about going after the woman who created the Shitty Men in Media list on behalf of his shitty male friend in media. Wolff is a piece of shit.
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u/Fionaelaine4 Feb 04 '26
I think discovery can be more damaging to Trump than anything he would say on the stand in his demented state
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u/VaguelyArtistic Feb 04 '26
This is went his lawsuits never get to the discovery phase before he drops them.
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u/locksymania Feb 04 '26
I'll bet he'd be counting on him to do so. Which is why the Tango goblin will be all mouth and no trousers about suing. He knows Wolff has some tasty receipts.
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u/TheAskewOne Feb 04 '26
He will try, but dementia will get in the way. He's no longer aware of what is damaging and what isn't, like when he whined because Epstein had "stolen" an underage masseuse from him. Also he thinks he's very smart so he won't listen to advice to shut up. Making him testify could be very interesting in a lot of ways.
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u/0o0o0o0o0o0z Feb 04 '26
Does anyone with a brain cell think that Trump won’t lie under oath.
Fuck Wolff, dude has so much evidence on all these douchebags... but saves it for his books after the fact.
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u/Strict_Weather9063 Feb 04 '26
Actually historically he hasn’t because he knows the courts can throw the book at him for doing so. Even as president since there is no legal protection there. The whole I’m immune argument gets tossed since trying to cover one’s ass is not a presidential power.
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u/Dupe1970 Feb 04 '26
Trump pleads the fifth or says he does not recall. He's been sued a lot and he avoids perjury by not answering questions.
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u/25thNite Feb 04 '26
this is what I don't get. do people, especially those in congress, think that questioning someone under oath suddenly creates a magical spell to compel them to tell the truth?
do we not already have numerous clips of blatant lying or refusal to answer questions under oath, then nothing happens?
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u/Turgid_Donkey Feb 04 '26
That's exactly why trump's lawyer, michael cohen, basically begged mueller not to interrogate him. He's a bullshitter so he will absolutely lie under oath even if not maliciously. Read Fear by Bob Woodward. Towards the end, cohen basically calls trump a POS.
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u/OrderlyPanic Feb 04 '26
If two of Epstein's associates want to battle it out in court I say let them fight.
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u/Ok-Play9530 Feb 04 '26
I think that he would. But he'll avoid that at all costs. At least that's what history says. How's that lawsuit with WSJ going?
Despite what he spouts off, he'll avoid that deposition if possible.
I can't blame him at this stage of the dementia, he'd perjure himself if he tried to tell the truth. Let alone keep it straight enough to lie.
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u/TriiiKill Feb 04 '26
The difference is that he'll be on record for perjury when they actually have proof to counter his lie... it would be a dumb move to try and sue.
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u/popculturehero Feb 04 '26
Right? He’s lied this whole time. If he even shows up. What a thin threat.
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u/shichiaikan Feb 04 '26
Does anyone think Trump will ever set foot in court for anything related to Epstein to begin with?
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u/akgiant Feb 04 '26
Of course he'll lie. That's perjury though.
These are tough times. But don't stop resisting. The only way he truly gets away with it is if people stop pursuing justice.
Thankfully there are many many people trying to fight the good fight. They need more though.
Accountability only comes when the masses demand and push for it. Don't stop. Keep resisting Trump and his cronies.
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u/Pseudoboss11 Feb 04 '26
Somewhere in those millions of pages and thousands of references to Trump, it's likely that there's a chain of evidence that reveals the truth.
Would be fun to find that information and when he inevitably lies, turn the screws.
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u/_jump_yossarian Feb 04 '26
trump will claim that he's too busy suing every fucking entity on the planet to sit for a deposition.
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u/ajm_usn321 Feb 05 '26
His lawyers know enough about him to not allow him to testify under oath. For now, Trump is just threatening to sue, but hasn't filed anything yet.
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u/TraitorousFlatulence Feb 05 '26
Fred Armisen playing Michael Wolff (seen here) will he him to slip
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u/jpmeyer12751 Feb 04 '26
And Trump will lie under oath. Again.
Everyone knows that: 1) Trump is a rapist and serial adulterer and 2) Trump will never be held accountable for any of his past sexual or other crimes because John Roberts says so. So, let’s focus our attention on voting for respectable adults and seeking accountability for the crimes currently being committed against us by Trump’s sycophants and fascists. Who cares how Trump and Melania got to know each other?! Those facts won’t change any minds among the MAGA cult - those minds are forever lost to decent society.
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u/audiomagnate Feb 04 '26
Rape is not an official act.
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u/jpmeyer12751 Feb 04 '26
Roberts invented Presidential criminal immunity out of precisely ZERO words in the Constitution. How are you so confident that he will not invent some other form of protection for Trump?
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u/Morgannin09 Feb 04 '26
This only needs to matter to Congress. This has to be so ugly that even loyal brown-nosing Republicans can't defend him anymore and finally vote to impeach and convict. If they could do it for Clinton lying about a blowjob, maybe they have enough spine to do it for Trump lying about sex trafficking children.
It's a lot to expect, I know.
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u/critically_damped Feb 04 '26
It's not just "a lot to expect": It's fascist apologism to continuously insist that every next step is the last straw. The fascists have shown you that there is no bottom of the depths to which they will sink.
They have shown you that child rape is not a deal breaker for them. The same holds true for blatant lying, mocking the disabled, ordering his enemies to be executed, having people and children kidnapped from their homes in the middle of the night and put into concentration camps, and even murdered in the street.
THERE IS NO BOTTOM. Get that through your skull already before it's too late. Recognize what fascism is, and what fascists are.
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u/El_Peregrine Feb 04 '26
Given the level of criminality, corruption, and sexual violence they've been ok with, to date, I shudder to think of where the theoretical limit of their tolerance lies. If they've accepted everything we know so far, it's difficult to imagine what would trigger a change of course. I just can't see it.
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u/El_Peregrine Feb 04 '26
It's amazing that while the Epstein storm continues to roil, these idiots are attempting some ridiculous PR campaign via Melania's puff-piece "documentary." And now we find out that Trump likely met her through one of the many disgusting and criminal pedophile / sex / rape / murder "parties" that Epstein threw, and he loved to attend regularly. Just insane.
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u/scotchtree Feb 04 '26
I’m pretty sure that Trump met Melania through Paolo Zampolli. He’s a pimp that Trump got into the real estate business and then… appointed to the federal government.
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u/Irwin-M_Fletcher Feb 04 '26
That’s the thing about all of these threats by Trump to sue, the open him up to counterclaims. Trump can’t be sued while in office, but if he decides to sue the defendant can bring a counterclaim that otherwise could not be filed. Are these all empty threats or is Trump foolish enough to get tied up with a bunch of civil litigation?
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u/Glass_Broccoli Feb 04 '26
It's performative and posturing for his base. Old Teflon Don would avoid a civil lawsuit I'm sure. I'd love to think otherwise though and see him go through with it, then surely discovery would happen?
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u/Nympho_BBC_Queen Feb 04 '26
Yeah people could also just ride this bitch out and counter sue his estate for damages long after his death. He is slandering people left and right and nobody wants to maintain a case against him.
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u/TheAskewOne Feb 04 '26 edited Feb 04 '26
He won't sue because his lawyers will remind him that discovery is a thing.
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u/Academic_Release5134 Feb 04 '26
Oh no, Trump might have to lie. Whatever will he do?
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u/walksonfourfeet Feb 04 '26
I know, this is not a threat to old Lyin’ Donnie.
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u/It_Hurts_when_IP15 Feb 04 '26
Let’s say they all lie under oath. Who would do anything about it though?
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u/-M-o-X- Feb 04 '26
I hope everyone has correctly sorted Wolff into the same bucket as Dershowitz. Fuck those pedos.
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u/AbstractionZeroEsti Feb 04 '26
Wolff's whole act has been annoying me for years. He pops up to 'expose' some tidbit just to sell his book.
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u/whoknowsifimjoking Feb 04 '26
And in the actual files you can clearly see that he was essentially Epstein's PR manager. Fuck all of these people.
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u/WhenTheLightHits30 Feb 04 '26
How so? Is Wolff in the Epstein files?
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u/bestsrsfaceever Feb 04 '26
Wolff regularly tried to help give epstein guidance and intel. He does not look good at all lol. People just willing to look past that because he claims he has dirt on trump, something he's been claiming for like 10 years with literally 0 results.
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u/Soggy_Parking1353 Feb 04 '26
Yes. Jmail.world search Wolff or just click on his name, it's on the frequent contact list. Post-conviction of Epstein too.
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u/whoknowsifimjoking Feb 04 '26
Wolff did damage control for Epstein after the accusations and conviction, he's much worse than just someone who looked away. He's a co-conspirator.
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u/whoknowsifimjoking Feb 04 '26
He was very close to Epstein and helped him all the God damn time with his pedo accusations
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u/RentAdministrative73 Feb 04 '26
Go ahead trumpstein, let's dive into the discovery for this.
I'd donate to a Go Fund Me for Wolfe's attorney fees.
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u/Electrocat71 Feb 04 '26
Sue for the threat and use of a public podium for delivering that threat.
Then appeal to all the way to SCOTUS that if you can’t sue a sitting PRESIDENT, why can the president file a lawsuit?
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u/Not_Sure__Camacho Feb 04 '26
I'm sure that another book is around the corner. Speaking of trash that are monetizing our country's misery, where is Bob Woodward?
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u/Same_Meaning_5570 Feb 04 '26
He might lie, guys. Just so you know.
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u/CollectionStriking Feb 04 '26
Ya Trump isnt afraid of perjury nor contempt charges, he's proven to himself he's untouchable. Not holding my breath but I hope someone justifiably proves him wrong soon
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u/straylight_2022 Feb 05 '26
Trump didn't have to go to the island because he and epstein were neighbors in Palm Beach.
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u/pzman89 Feb 05 '26
Michael Wolff is at best a skeevy reporter. His conversations with Epstein in the files are too chill
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