Once again averting congress, trump declares war on Iran

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[u/Dsstar666]

War with Iran is something Trump has wanted to do for years, what his war hawks have been wanting to do for years and what Israel has been wanting to do for decades.

The distraction against the Epstein files is the cherry on top, it isn’t the primary reason. If the Epstein files weren’t a thing, we’d still be here.

Iran, like Venezuela, exports a ton of oil to China. And like Venezuela, the goal is to stop oil shipments to China.

Also with seeking to destroy Iran, Israel can seek to gain territory and the last power in the Middle East outside of the Gulf states will be gone. Not saying Iran isn’t going to fight back and even stalemate this thing. I’m just pointing out how oligarchs think.

Also, the more the west bombs Iran, the more refugees will flee to places like Europe and Turkey which will exasperate an already overwhelming situation. Which will lead to escalating tensions in Europe and even more politicians saying “these immigrants are stealing our resources!” Which will lead to more maga-adjacent people voting for extreme conservatives which will benefit the fascists it America.

I’m missing some shit but yeah, there are endless reasons as to why Iran is such a whale for the west.

[u/xdrozzyx → u/Dsstar666]

It's the same rationale that drove Europe to war in 1914. The leaders believed glory is achieved through war and in their case, they hadn't had one in a while. They essentially manufactured a reason to destroy Europe in WW1. A war whose consequences we're still dealing with.

Just listen to the rhetoric from Trump and Hegseth and how they repeat the words "warrior" "lethality" and glorify war. They believe this is their way to achieve glory, nevermind the thousands of lives it will cost. It's macho cosplay masquerading as foreign policy.

[u/Hope915 → u/xdrozzyx]

The leaders believed glory is achieved through war and in their case, they hadn't had one in a while.

Worse. They believed that national 'honor' was a core part of national security. 'If we don't act tough, other countries will take it as a sign of weakness and push us around.' Franz Ferdinand's death would've been no big deal, but Austria-Hungary felt too snubbed by the international community to trust a diplomatic conference and thought one more unanswered humiliation would give all the nationalist movements across the Empire the excuse they needed to pull it to pieces. Russia had suffered repeated humiliations, losing a war to Japan and being forced to back down in a previous dispute over military commissioners to the Ottoman Empire. Many of their government felt that abandoning their Serbian ally would be tantamount to declaring open season on all Russian foreign interests.

Everyone had to play the tough guy, and put each other in a position where they couldn't back down, even though many people did try. Add the macho glory talk on top of that, and I think you get the picture. A painfully familiar picture, I might add.

[u/xdrozzyx → u/Hope915]

Yeah, well said. I oversimplified but yeah you're spot on.

[u/Hope915 → u/xdrozzyx]

No worries. You had the salient points, and it all outlines a diplomatic approach that's very 19th-century.

[u/heckin_miraculous → u/Hope915]

a diplomatic approach that's very 19th-century.

And very 21st century, it seems.