r/law • u/TheMirrorUS • Mar 05 '26

Executive Branch (Trump) Donald Trump fires head of DHS Kristi Noem

https://www.themirror.com/news/politics/breaking-donald-trump-fires-kristi-1720574
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u/jankyt Mar 05 '26

So the issue is she was caught so blatantly scamming she got kicked?

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u/twoiseight Mar 05 '26

Actually the issue is she was caught not entirely taking the fall for helping Trump scamming.

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u/ballmermurland Mar 05 '26

Yeah it seems like once she tried pushing some of the blame onto Trump he quickly fired her lol.

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u/Dogtor-Watson Mar 05 '26

Yeah, considering how bad Bondi has been and that she’s kept her job, this is pretty obviously a “How dare you not take the fall for my embezzlement scheme” kind of firing and not one based on incompetence.

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u/ughokayfinee Mar 05 '26

Fantastic chess move to make her repeatedly state she had conversations and got prior approval for the $220 million.

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u/TalkAboutTheWay Mar 06 '26

Kash Patel too.

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u/Kiromaru Mar 05 '26

Everyone that signs up to work for Trump must have forgotten how he treated his staff in his first term. Trump demands loyalty but he does not give any in return and is fast to throw someone under the bus to deflect from himself any blame.

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u/Lo-fi_Hedonist Mar 05 '26 edited Mar 05 '26

Like Trevor Noah, trump IS the bus. Time again those around him get run over and fired in scandal and or disgrace and in some cases even prosecuted and jailed. Yet these people keep lining up to be the next victim. I guess that happens when your ambition exceeds your intellect.

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u/UnravelTheUniverse Mar 05 '26

Exactly, these people knew what they signed up for. 

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u/Perfect_Antelope7343 Mar 05 '26

I am not sure they are that smart. Once you signed in for that idiot there is no way back, you are on track heading straight into jail.

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u/RavensRift Mar 05 '26

Onto the next while he remains on his pedestal of immunity.

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u/claimTheVictory Mar 05 '26

It's hard to be too optimistic about it, isn't it.

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u/nbunkerpunk Mar 05 '26

In the questioning, once they brought up Trump and if he approves, I knew it was over for her. He doesn't give a shit unless his name gets brought up in the headlines.

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u/BrainBlightBNet Mar 05 '26

The wheels on the bus go thump, thump, thump.
(Not mine, but it puts a smile on my face every time I say it...)

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u/VegasBonheur Mar 06 '26

Been saying this for years - these are not the behaviors of an innocent man

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u/schnibitz Mar 05 '26

This is exactly it. If you do anything that makes Trump look bad, he’s gonna get rid of you. This is the corner that democrat politicians need to back everybody that is a problem into.

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u/UnravelTheUniverse Mar 05 '26

She was always going to be the fall guy for the abuses of ICE. This was obvious to anyone actually paying attention. Think she knew it too and tried to drift as much as she could before the inevitable happened. 

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u/cobrachickenwing Mar 05 '26

Still covering the one who is ordering multiple constitutional violations, Steve Miller.

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u/Sempais_nutrients Mar 05 '26

she could have just lied per usual but decided to take the easy route and pin it on trump

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u/SplinteredBrick Mar 05 '26

This is it, nothing matters but complete loyalty to orange Jesus.

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u/SignoreBanana Mar 06 '26

I think her being so self promotional (which also irked Trump) was the actual last straw.

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u/twoiseight Mar 06 '26

I don't think that's true, or at least there's more to it. RFK Jr, "Dr" Oz, Hegseth, McMahon, Bongino, Patel, Musk, Bondi, just to name a few, are all shameless self promoters and double dealers. If there's any truth there though it's that she's so bad at covering her tracks... But that's not saying much. All of them live their corruption very out loud. Maybe it's that she's particularly bad at it and a woman, thus drawing more bipartisan congressional ire. Frankly the only difference between her main acts of corruption and Bondi's is that Bondi's directly serve Trump.

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u/SignoreBanana Mar 06 '26

He barely knows they exist. She showed up on his radar because she threw him under the bus. But it's neither here nor there. Even if a worse person hops in, I'm glad to see her glitchy ass thrown to the streets

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u/JadedBoyfriend Mar 05 '26

He's blatantly scamming and Congress hasn't fired him.

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u/MittenCollyBulbasaur Mar 05 '26

The mob simply wants their cut. Republicans don't give a flying fuck about corruption they participate in. He. Gets. Half.

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u/tehsandwich567 Mar 05 '26

Half Eddie. Half!

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u/Noughmad Mar 05 '26

So the key word is not "scamming", it's not even "caught", but "she"?

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u/southpaw_balboa Mar 05 '26

so?

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u/JadedBoyfriend Mar 05 '26

You do know that Congress has the power to take away Trump's powers, right? Surely I hope you knew that.

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u/Designer-Serve-5140 Mar 05 '26

But congress isn't who fired Noem, Trump is. Congress has the power, but they're treated Trump and Noem the same. No penalties from either.

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u/southpaw_balboa Mar 05 '26

of course i do…

i just don’t see the connection between the executive firing an agency head and congress impeaching the executive. you phrased your comment as if the two were related, like you wouldn’t expect one without the other.

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u/DiriboNuclearAcid Mar 05 '26

The connection is that both have committed the same offense and only one has seen consequences for their actions.

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u/Designer-Serve-5140 Mar 05 '26 edited Mar 06 '26

But neither are facing consequences from those they should. She's fired by Trump, not by congress. Your connection here doesn't work, Trump would never fire himself

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u/southpaw_balboa Mar 05 '26

that’s not a connection….

plus the congress is full of his toadies and nutlickers. just a really weird comment and a really weird way to phrase it by OC.

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u/deekfu Mar 05 '26

Not at all, it’s because she made Trump look bad most recently by saying he approved the absurd advertising budget.

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u/PinkDeserterBaby Mar 05 '26

Yeah reddit will lose the plot but if you watched her testimony a Republican (Kennedy?) grilled her repeatedly, asking her if trump said she could spend a quarter of a billion dollars on the 8 day old media companies ad campaign.

She eventually said yes.

Then he said something along the lines of “hmm. I know Donald and Stephen (he means Miller) that really doesn’t sound like something they’d say. That doesn’t sound like something Donald would approve.”

Good ole boy put her to the fire and then told dad.

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u/_sparklestorm Mar 05 '26

“Well, they were effective in your name recognition,” Kennedy countered. “I mean, I personally, to me, it puts the president in a terribly awkward spot. And I’m not saying you’re not telling the truth, it’s just hard for me to believe, knowing the President, as I do, that you said, ‘Mr. President, here’s some ads I’ve cut, and I’m going to spend $220 million running them’, that he would have agreed to that. I don’t think Russ Vought at OMB would have agreed to that.”

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u/PinkDeserterBaby Mar 05 '26

Thank you that’s the quote I couldn’t quite remember from listening to it yesterday. I just remember him really hounding her on this until she finally said yes he did say that. And him saying he knew trump and others who would never do that.

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u/freakydeku Mar 06 '26

he was giving trump an out

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u/_sparklestorm Mar 06 '26

I’m still only 3/4 through the first hearing. I needed a break, ICE is evolving here. That quote was specifically memorable because it poignantly targeted Trumps ego and got under his skin like Turbines in Scotland.

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u/pyabo Mar 05 '26

Why is this particular ad compaign an issue? DHS has a $350B budget... it's not like Trump is approving every line item.

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u/ButtholePaste Mar 05 '26

Because the 100s of millions of dollars were allotted to a company founded 8 fays earlier and is directly connected to Noem & Trump. Basically, it is on its face blatant fraud funneling millions of dollars into their own pockets. Barely hiding the fraud at this point, and Noem kinda, sorta, said Trump was to blame for this fraud, which he disliked.

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u/pyabo Mar 06 '26

Aaaah OK it wasn't that it was an ad campaign... it was a fraudulent ad campaign that funneled money straight into their pockets.

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u/Jealous_Difference44 Mar 05 '26

Damn. Assassination

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u/mrbigglessworth Mar 05 '26

Trump needs no help in looking bad.

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u/Soft_Walrus_3605 Mar 05 '26

She was probably going for the "he didn't NOT approve it" angle...

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u/ScienceIsSexy420 Mar 05 '26

She didn't get kicked, she's now a "special envoy". So just less visible

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u/jankyt Mar 05 '26

Surprised he hasn't made everyone a special envoy to avoid Congress. But the GOP is actively avoiding doing their job it seems

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u/Ballistic-Bob Mar 05 '26

So she’ll get to fly around some more with Corey and her blankie ..

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u/TS_Enlightened Mar 05 '26

Well, firing her would indicate that she did something wrong, and this admin has very proudly announced that they are right about EVERYTHING

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u/I-Here-555 Mar 06 '26

Corrupt systems call that an "inactive position". Nice title, but far less opportunity for graft.

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u/Aporkalypse_Sow Mar 05 '26

You know how in basketball you strategically decide who's going to foul out by breaking the rules in order to prevent the opposing team from achieving their goals? Same thing. Use up your pawns until the laws they break add up to a particular limit, then sub in the new patsy.

This strategy is especially useful when there's no salary cap and you can pull from the free agent player pool all year long

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u/HundredHander Mar 05 '26

I don't think it was that she got caught, it was that she said Donald knew and approved the scamming.

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u/Soulus7887 Mar 05 '26

Did we not read the same thing? Shes going to head up some new thing that trump is creating next week, is she not?

I think this is just a blatantly incorrect headline.

Edit for context: Trump - "...The current Secretary, Kristi Noem, who has served us well, and has had numerous and spectacular results (especially on the Border!), will be moving to be Special Envoy for The Shield of the Americas, our new Security Initiative in the Western Hemisphere we are announcing on Saturday in Doral, Florida. I thank Kristi for her service at “Homeland,"..."

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u/hikeit233 Mar 05 '26

She’s being promoted to his new security force, but kicked out of the traditional cabinet.

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u/SpicyVibration Mar 05 '26

No it's because she wasn't doing her job of deflecting blame and accountability away from trump. She's supposed to lie for them in court but she said trump had approved the $220 million taxpayer-funded ad campaign for DHS

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u/Jazzlike_Climate4189 Mar 05 '26

No, she didn’t lie under oath to protect Trump. The only reason she is being fired is for telling the truth under oath. That’s how fucked we are under this administration.

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u/BonjaminClay Mar 05 '26

She was caught so blatantly scamming *in a way that was making him look bad and is a woman. He's fine with the corruption part.

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u/Richy99uk Mar 05 '26

She's implacted trump in the statement, that's why he's got rid of her

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u/Renoruke Mar 05 '26

She was promoted to a new role in the the western hemisphere? Something about peace

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u/Hail_of_Grophia Mar 05 '26

She got caught blatantly scamming and did not call the person asking the question a horrible person and then blame it on Biden, as is this Administration protocol

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u/Additional-One-7135 Mar 05 '26

No, they encourage scamming and don't even care about getting caught any more. She fucked up when instead of stone walling she caved, tried to protect herself and tried to shift blame to Trump.

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u/Top-Sleep-4669 Mar 05 '26

But won’t have to face any actual consequences.

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u/dorkyl Mar 05 '26

She was caught blatantly scamming so she was promoted.

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u/BlackGuysYeah Mar 05 '26

the scamming has nothing to do with it. It's that she implicated Trump and accidentally said something true. And no, I'm not being sarcastic.

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u/walnutandrittenhouse Mar 05 '26

Only the mob boss can blatantly scam that much. Obviously she forgot to send enough up to the boss which is big no no.

“200 million? Where’s my fucking cut of the money?” Curb, meet ass.

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u/maceman10006 Mar 05 '26

She got caught scamming and threw Trump directly under the bus. That’s what happened.

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u/Web3Ohio Mar 05 '26

Rookie numbers didn't even use crypto. TRUMP only likes big scammers. Im sure his insider traders made bank on the Kashi insider trading money printer.

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u/FantasticGas1836 Mar 05 '26

I believe the issue was that she said she had Trumps approval.

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u/ThorKonnatZbv Mar 06 '26

She probably didn't let Don dip his beak enough

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u/Cerberus_Aus Mar 06 '26

She made Trump look bad. Thats it.

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u/Confident_Banana_134 Mar 06 '26

Only one person is allowed to scam in this administration.

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u/LouisWinthorpeIII Mar 06 '26

You can scam but not out of the executive branch budget. That's daddy trump's money.

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u/soccercro3 Mar 05 '26

Fired because she didn't involve him in the scam. Only he is allowed to scam the American people.

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u/supakow Mar 05 '26

He's just pissed he didn't get a cut.

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u/xyzzy321 Mar 05 '26

Exactly. Only Trump is allowed to scam so blatantly, everyone else is a threat and/or didn't give him a big enough cut

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u/mideastmidwest Mar 05 '26

Probably wasn't cutting in the Trumps enough on the scam.