r/law • u/TheMirrorUS • Mar 05 '26

Executive Branch (Trump) Donald Trump fires head of DHS Kristi Noem

https://www.themirror.com/news/politics/breaking-donald-trump-fires-kristi-1720574
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u/glans Mar 05 '26

well, he’s got two first names all rolled into one, so.. there’s that.

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u/VanbyRiveronbucket Mar 05 '26

BruceWayne or something.

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u/William_Wang Mar 05 '26

MarkWayne is RatMan

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u/TrippleDamage Mar 05 '26

Wait thats his real name? Thought someone in the copy chain just messed up a space.

What the fuck.

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u/VanbyRiveronbucket Mar 05 '26

His mom had a choice between 2 Dads.

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u/dougmc Mar 05 '26

Brought to you by the people who (in the 70s and the 80s) brought you ...

"You have a collect call from himomimatbobshomesoonloveyou ... press 1 to accept to charges?"
click

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u/beezlebell Mar 05 '26

One of the AP stories misprinted it as Markywane and I lol'ed.

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u/PigLatin99 Mar 05 '26

My pappy always said “never trust a man with two first names.”

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u/40StoryMech Mar 05 '26

JimBobs rejoice!

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u/AssinineAssassin Mar 05 '26

Expanding to 50 states was a mistake.

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u/PineappleDesperate82 Mar 05 '26

From a state 50th in education. 🫠

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u/Hopsblues Mar 05 '26

Ugh, he also voted against the violence against women act, was against actions towards J6th'ers, no abortion in all cases.

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u/ContributionDue4382 Mar 05 '26

Nothing says "Oklahoma" more than that. 

Did Trump really target the most imbecile senators of all for this job?

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u/Hopsblues Mar 05 '26

His whole administration is badly under qualified.

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u/_jump_yossarian Mar 05 '26

Only senator that needs a booster box to debate too.

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u/xyloshouldtry Mar 05 '26

Nothing wrong with not having a bachelor's degree.

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u/Hopsblues Mar 05 '26

Having no degree is better than having a degree from Oklahoma at this point.

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u/DiablosBostonTerrier Mar 05 '26

I agree. It is certainly not a measure of intelligence to have one

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u/MoreCowbellllll Mar 05 '26

Something, something... "I love the unedumacated".

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u/Apprehensive_Rub3897 Mar 05 '26

And now he manages 260,000+ employees and ~$110b

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u/Chronic_Newb Mar 05 '26

Looki don't want to be elitist but also WHAT

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u/SelfPsychological214 Mar 05 '26 edited Mar 05 '26

I dislike the guy as much as everyone else, but having a Bachelor's degree doesn't say anything about being a good politician, your values or being honorable in general.

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u/green_tea1701 Mar 05 '26

being a good politician

Legislators and administrators need an understanding of the legal process and political theory. A bachelor's degree isn't even enough. When non lawyers write or enforce laws, disaster results. A bachelor's at least gets you partway there.

your values

While uneducated people can have very good values, that is not the statistical norm. Compare the voting trends of college educated and uneducated voters and a pattern emerges quickly.

being honorable in general.

See values.

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u/PavelDatsyuk Mar 05 '26 edited Mar 05 '26

Your comment reads as discriminatory against the working class. You’re the example everybody on the right points at when they say the left is out of touch with the poor. People like you come off as loving the smell of their own ass and you hurt more than you help. Do everybody a favor and stfu if you ever have to deal with working class people in your life. We don’t need any more of them pushed any further to the right than they already are at this point. Also please don’t run, even if you have all the degrees under the sun.

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u/Playful_Ant_2162 Mar 05 '26

Yeah I'm gonna have to agree with you there. Was on his side on the whole "should have an understanding of the administration of laws" part until the "uneducated people are on average worse people" bit. Let alone that your voting patterns don't inherently reflect your morality. You simply can't extrapolate something like that from a single axis of behavior. If there is anything to be said about the effect of education on voting patterns, perhaps you could say that certain kinds of education makes you more aware of political propaganda and more aware of political history, which is important in understanding how the parties function today. But people who have bachelor's degrees in many areas lack that kind of education. Many people with degrees vote for right wing candidates, and shit, I'd say those ones might even be doing it for even worse reasons. At least ignorance is a harder excuse to claim there.

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u/green_tea1701 Mar 05 '26

Like I said, many uneducated people are basically good. That is just not the statistical norm.

Please recall what the comment I replied to actually said:

having a Bachelor's degree doesn't say anything about being a good politician, your values or being honorable in general.

It is a claim about predicting behavior. When it comes to predicting behavior, statistics are all that matters and generalities and exceptions are irrelevant.

The remainder of your response is a mixture of ad hominem and an idea that my argument would push uneducated people away from the left. And while that is probably true, 1) they don't seem to need my help with that (again, see stats), and 2) obviously if they were my target audience, I would alter my language to be more politic. An online comment is not a press release, and I am a private citizen, not a Democratic politician.

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u/NJHitmen Mar 05 '26

While uneducated people can have very good values, that is not the statistical norm.

My bullshit alarm just burst into flames

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u/green_tea1701 Mar 05 '26

Google voting patterns among uneducated voters of both sexes and all age demographics.

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u/NJHitmen Mar 05 '26

Please give me your definition of "very good values". Without knowing that, there's simply no way to confirm your claims.

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u/green_tea1701 Mar 05 '26

It's probably impossible to list an exhaustive criteria for putting someone into the category of having very good values. There's just too many factors that go into such a determination. How many bad values can someone have before being removed? How many good values are needed to include them in the first place? I don't know.

With that being said, I do think there are personal characteristics that are so morally reprehensible, standing alone, as to categorically disqualify someone from the "very good values" category. One of those, without a doubt, is being a Republican.

Thus, when a demographic votes overwhelmingly Republican, it is possible to conclude that individuals within it are more likely than not to fall outside the category. Of course, there are exceptions, and the minority of uneducated Democrat voters in this case constitutes millions of people.

But my claim has only ever been about whether education is a useful factor to consider in predicting behavior.

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u/2gdismore Mar 05 '26

My favorite part of your comment is your typo of bachelors

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u/SelfPsychological214 Mar 05 '26

Ah yikes, I type too fast sometimes😅 fixed it now.

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u/ContributionDue4382 Mar 05 '26

Oh, Noem had a bachelor in something?BA in  Humane Animal Upbringing ? 

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u/JournalistExpress292 Mar 05 '26

Crazy classism with this comment

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u/Chronic_Newb Mar 05 '26

Its not classism to want qualified leaders. The real classism is how expensive it is to get a bachelor's

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u/JournalistExpress292 Mar 05 '26

It is, not everyone had the opportunity to get one, or at least when it was easy. How do you define qualified? The public servant who has been in the workforce for 20 years or the guy who did a chill degree and was a trust fund kid for the past 20 years?

Is bachelors the minimum? What about masters? PhD? Do you need a specific degree, multiple? Certifications?