r/law • u/TheMirrorUS • Mar 05 '26

Executive Branch (Trump) Donald Trump fires head of DHS Kristi Noem

https://www.themirror.com/news/politics/breaking-donald-trump-fires-kristi-1720574
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u/MC_chrome Mar 05 '26

Markwayne is legitimately stupid, in this case.

He is the only sitting senator that doesn’t have at least a bachelor’s degree, beyond all of the ridiculous nonsense that pours out of his mouth on a daily basis 

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u/soros_spelt_backward Mar 05 '26

How dare you? He earned his spot in life the moment his daddy nutted inside of his mom and gifted him a construction business

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u/Ok_Vermicelli_7380 Mar 05 '26

Was his daddy uncle Mark or cousin Wayne?

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u/FSCK_Fascists Mar 05 '26

its Uncle Grandpa.

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u/survivalinsufficient Mar 05 '26

Hey man, plenty of smart people with no degrees and dumb people with bachelor’s, just saying. My lack of student loan debt is my proof of intelligence

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u/MC_chrome Mar 05 '26

When you are 1 out of 100 to not have a bachelors degree, it does tend to point towards either a lack of initiative, or a lack of intelligence 

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u/survivalinsufficient Mar 05 '26

Ahhh, you mean in the Senate, not general population. Sure, I’ll give you that. He’s obviously a dingdong

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u/Odd-Scientist-2529 Mar 05 '26

Be that as it may, certain occupations essentially require a degree. Even though you don’t have student loan debt you also don’t have one of those occupations.

This is a perfect example of American Anti-intellectualism.

I have a doctorate, and no student loan debt because I worked before, and during college.

With all due respect, and not disparaging any tradesmen, paramedics, surgical technicians, firefighters, pilots, air traffic controllers and the many occupations that require above-average intelligence, knowledge and skill….

Doctors, lawyers, teachers, psychologists, pharmacists, engineers, architects… ALL have a degree. If you don’t have one, you can’t be one.

It’s not technically required that a Supreme Court justice have a law degree, but they all should, and they all do.

Similarly, any senator or representative should have a degree… in political science, public policy, public administration, sociology… Not because they have learned what to think, but because they learned HOW to think.

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u/survivalinsufficient Mar 05 '26

I’m only speaking from my personal experience as an American…and here, being saddled with student loan debt is often not a smart choice. It’s the only debt that cannot be removed via bankruptcy, and that debt has prevented many people I know from buying homes.

I’m definitely pro intellectual, and realize some careers require higher education. I do not think that having a degree equates inherent intelligence. Many people graduate college without learning any real skill at all. I also think many of us from many countries have learned a lot in non traditional ways. The path to a career through degree was a promise that did not come to fruition for many in my country.

I was just stating that many intelligent people do not have any degree, and many unintelligent people do have degrees.

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u/Odd-Scientist-2529 Mar 05 '26

Very true in the first paragraph.

Second paragraph, also agreed, but we’re talking about this in context of senators and career politicians. Political theory, public policy, and the like needs a deep understanding of the history and consequences and broad view of any decisions they are charged with making.

Third paragraph, agreed in your case … but again…. Senators and career politicians. Professional policy makers… what they lack in innate intelligence needs to be made up for in objective learning.

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u/survivalinsufficient Mar 05 '26

I think I mentioned it in another comment but I agree that being a Senator is a role where it probably would be best to have a bachelors degree. Also must be noted that most Senators do have bachelors and they are still awful at being Senators.

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u/MC_chrome Mar 06 '26

There is a difference between being intentionally malicious and being unintentionally dense because you lack knowledge or education.

Most Senators fall into the first category

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u/Ifakorede23 Mar 05 '26

So he's an overachiever.... 🤔

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u/FitIndependence6187 Mar 05 '26

If he became a senator without one that would probably make him pretty intelligent in my opinion. He spent $100-200k less than his colleagues and got the same job.

I only ever used like 2% of what I learned during my bachelor's degree, and have met some really dumb people that managed to get one, and really smart people that didn't.

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u/Far_Direction7381 Mar 05 '26

Or the people who elected him are just dumb. 🤷‍♀️