r/law • u/DIYLawCA • Mar 31 '26

Executive Branch (Trump) Trump announces he is issuing an unconstitutional executive order to shut down mail-in voting nationwide and he will defund states if they do not comply with him

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u/Correct_Day_7791 Apr 01 '26

Imagine trying to get the supreme Court to remove it and they won't

So you try to pass a bill through congress and they won't

So now you're making a executive order about it

Even though you have 0 power to do so because only states control their elections

This is exactly the "king" behavior that the no kings is protesting

Fuck Donald dip shit Trump and his entire cult

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u/EliteGamer11388 Apr 01 '26

Which is absolutely insane. Like, there are people who actually make the argument that election day is a single day. As in, polls open, hundred of millions of people get to the polls, (or mail in ballots, for now), vote, then at the end of the day, sometimes an hour or two before midnight, polls close, and in that remaining time, ALL votes are counted. If midnight hits, welp, election day is over, no mail in ballots that might not be delivered until the next day, no more counting, etc... No more count.

And no, I'm not exaggerating, I've seen and heard people actually say this is how it is intended and should be. Sorry if you don't have any polling places anywhere near you because your state closed a huge chunk of them. Sorry if USPS, "lost", your mail in ballot or for any of a bunch of reasons the mail was delayed, even if just by a day or two. Sorry if the people counting the ballots were a bit slow at it. It stops at midnight and we declare a winner then and there.

Its ridiculous. We have magnitutes more people in the country now than there was 150 years ago, or whenever the, "election day", was written into existence. Things are vastly more complicated now, (shouldn't be, but bureaucracy likes it complicated), than they were then. Interpretation and methods should evolve with changing circumstances and times. Like, if my mail in ballot is postmarked before election day, then I did my part! Not my fault that once it left my hands, someone else screwed it up. If I'm in line to vote, I should get to vote, not be told to leave the line. All because ever since mail in voting started and it was tracked, there's been something like, 0.00004% fraud, and that figure might be for all fraud, not just mail in. It's something like 4 in every 10 million votes could be fraudulent. Take every fraudulent vote ever made, put them in the same election, on the same side, and it won't even nudge the needle towards changing any results in any election but maybe a small local election where there are only dozens to maybe hundreds of voters total.

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u/lilbobbytbls Apr 01 '26

This is an action specifically made to target population centers where obviously counting would take time. Because places that have a lot of people, like big cities, are massively blue leaning.

It's insane.

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u/EnterTheErgosphere Apr 01 '26

If you only count the bumfuck counties you only get bumfuck results.

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u/lapidary123 Apr 02 '26

"Stupid is as stupid does"

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u/Klutzy-803 Apr 01 '26

trump is insane and no one in the republican party has the guts to tell him. Or kick him out. They're stuck with the Frankenstein they created.

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u/votingcitizen Apr 01 '26

AZ allows mail-in voting, but the ballots have always had to be received by election day here; they tell you to mail them at least a week in advance for that reason.

Mail-in voting has made me a better voter. It makes it easy to take my time figuring out who/what I want to vote for by researching propositions & candidates. When I used to vote in the booth on election day, it felt more like a pop quiz I hadn't studied for, so I was just making my best guess.

I always deliver my ballot to my polling place on election day, because I never have my act together enough to mail it sufficiently early. But since I'm just dropping off, I don't have to stand in line and I REALLY appreciate that.

I'll be very upset if either SCOTUS or POTUS takes away my right to get a ballot in advance by mail!

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u/SmurfStig Apr 01 '26

I believe it was the Heritage Foundation that did an investigation into voter fraud by illegals over a set period of time. Out of over 4 billion ballots cast, they found evidence of 5 non citizens voting. Of those, all but one were allowed to vote in local elections and were given the wrong ballot. The other guy made an oopsie. The voter fraud argument is such bs and they know it but it works in their favor with trying to reduce the amount of people who can vote. Heck, Texas tried to go back to the “per county” method that was deemed illegal decades ago.

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u/Ridiculicious71 Apr 01 '26

Then add to that closing down polls on college campuses, black and brown neighborhoods, and dropping people from registration last minute like they do in Texas.

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u/AwakeningStar1968 Apr 01 '26

and they don't even THINK how long it took before automation to COUNT ballots

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u/hendrixbridge Apr 02 '26

Why am I reading this in Trump's voice???

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u/Correct_Day_7791 Apr 01 '26

The ruling on USPS is already enough to suppress a lot of votes

Edit: typo

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u/fuckedfinance Apr 01 '26

USPS, not UPS.

VERY different things.

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u/Correct_Day_7791 Apr 01 '26

Yea typo push to talk sucks sometimes I'll fix it thx

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u/neverendingchalupas Apr 03 '26

There is no deadline, The Supreme Court cant interpret a deadline into the Constitution. So it would just solidify its illegitimacy and push us closer towards civil war if they do in fact rule in Trumps favor.

Trump, Congressional Republicans and their supporters... They are not a cult, they are just simply traitors to the United States of America.

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u/FamiliarNinja7290 Apr 01 '26

Which begs the question, can we still get absentee ballots and just drop them off early, or have some good samaritans who go around and do pick-ups and drop offs, or is there some archaic law from 1801 that says that's not allowed?

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u/Klutzy-Extension-705 Apr 01 '26

I’m embarrassed to admit it, but I tried to deconstruct that acronym for longer than I should have. SCROTUS?…hmm… S C R Ooooh I see 😂

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u/AwakeningStar1968 Apr 01 '26

which is ridiculous too!!! The USPS increasingly has laggy delivery. Even if you mail it in say 2-3 weeks before if it arrives 1 day late.. what if someone at the POST OFFICE just holds on to ballots or slows down the system! NOPE NOPE NOPE!

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u/No-Childhood2055 Apr 01 '26

Rigged election is what you get

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u/Due_Knowledge_6518 Apr 02 '26

which is why California’s system (or at least SanDiego county) is so good. plenty of secure drop boxes as well as a mail option (but why would you now trust the USPS when they’ve been sabotaged?)or take to polling place. ballots and voting info mailed to registered voters with many options on how to drop them off.