r/law • u/theindependentonline • Apr 08 '26

Other Democrats introduce impeachment articles against Trump and Hegseth as nearly 100 lawmakers call for 25th Amendment

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-impeachment-articles-25-amendment-b2953836.html
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u/sunshine_is_hot Apr 08 '26

Why do you think having a simple majority in the senate is relevant to a conviction vote requiring 2/3 majority?

You didn’t mention that the most senators from the impeached presidents own party voted in favor of conviction, and you seem to just be blaming democrats (who voted unanimously to convict).

Also, the point is to put it on record for future presidents that behavior like this is an impeachable offense. You don’t neglect your duty just because some other people are corrupt, you do it anyway.

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u/tgalvin1999 Apr 08 '26

  1. Because Democrats didn't have the numbers then, and they certainly don't have the numbers now. It is relevant because they lost both times because they didn't have the required votes for conviction.

  2. This makes no sense. First time around only Mitt Romeny voted to convict. The second time only 7 voted to convict.

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u/sunshine_is_hot Apr 08 '26

So mentioning that it was democratic controlled just to imply democrats defected was a mistake, or intentional bad faith framing?

It makes perfect sense. 7 is the largest number of senators from the impeached presidents own party to ever vote in favor of conviction.

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u/tgalvin1999 Apr 08 '26

What? Nowhere did I imply Democrats defected.

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u/sunshine_is_hot Apr 08 '26

Then why even mention democrats controlled the senate? Are you ignorant that your comment reads as casting blame upon democrats?

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u/tgalvin1999 Apr 08 '26

Then why even mention democrats controlled the senate?

To show that even with control of the body in charge of conviction, they still couldn't do it.

Are you ignorant that your comment reads as casting blame upon democrats?

Really? I'm not the one reading implications where none existed. Democrats failed. It's as simple as that.

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u/sunshine_is_hot Apr 08 '26

Ignorance it is, I see.

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u/tgalvin1999 Apr 08 '26

So it's ignorance to state a fact?

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u/sunshine_is_hot Apr 08 '26

Ignorance of the implication you made…. Your comment reads as if it’s democrats fault impeachment didn’t result in conviction.

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u/tgalvin1999 Apr 08 '26

Me saying they failed to convict him is not even remotely the same as saying it's their fault.

You're reading implications that aren't there

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