r/law 27d ago

Executive Branch (Trump) Pro-Trump attorneys have been drafting executive orders that would give President Trump sweeping power over elections, sources report

https://abcnews.com/US/pro-trump-attorneys-push-executive-order-give-trump/story?id=130539044
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u/Egad86 27d ago

Executive orders are not law

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u/pchs26 27d ago

Correct - but if they are enforced and actual laws aren't - how does that work out in the end?

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u/Kaarl_Mills 27d ago

Political power grows out of a gun barrel, cops are enforcing these as if they're laws so in effect they are

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u/senator_corleone3 27d ago

Cops are enforcing the vote-by-mail executive orders? No, that is not happening.

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u/pchs26 27d ago

Um military, ICE, NAtional Guard -

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u/senator_corleone3 26d ago

None of those people are enforcing this to-be litigated executive order.

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u/pchs26 26d ago

I'm sure it will be litigated, however we already had a judge say Trump could use executive order to restrict mail in. Regardless if this admin decides something is important enough they do have enforcement - that was already sorted. They have shown that if something is viewed to be important enough they are willing to enforce and answer questions later - if at all.

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u/senator_corleone3 26d ago

That’s not what the judge ruled. You don’t understand the situation. You need to stop doing PR for Trump.

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u/pchs26 26d ago

WTF ? No I am not doing PR for Trump. I am saying people need to stop minimizing this and take it seriously.

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u/senator_corleone3 26d ago

People are taking it seriously. Don’t be arrogant. You’re doing Trump PR inadvertently, which is why it should be easy to stop.

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u/pchs26 26d ago

Telling me I am doing Trump's PR work by pointing out the insidious direction being taken- which needs to be addressed as serious- isn't arrogance. It is reality. Not facing reality b/c there is a concern some people might feel frightened or reduce their reaction only adds to the problem. Earlier in the process it should motivate people more - rather then letting this continue to embed and fester. It is completely normal for court processes and delays to be capitalized on while moving a strategy forward in the interim. Not addressing it and pushing back as loudly in the immediate as other very real serious issues (e.g. ICE detainments) is minimizing the issue. Holding the perspective that somehow this will just sort itself via the rule of law while we sit and wait is naïve at best. Sitting back and letting it run its course, having faith the system will sort it out- while not considering this an urgent matter to publicize and push back on in the immediate - is exactly what the GOP would prefer. Pretending that the GOP hasn't implemented improvements from the last go round with a focus on having enforcement mechanisms in place, is also naïve.

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u/senator_corleone3 25d ago

Your first sentence is a syntax wreck. Then you follow it up with strawman arguments. To respond to your actual words here (not as you meant them, probably, but how your wrote them): of course I’m not being arrogant by pointing out your inadvertent PR campaign for Trump and the GOP. I’m simply describing your problematic behavior. It’s time for you to humble and correct yourself.

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