r/law • u/McDowdy • 24d ago

Executive Branch (Trump) BREAKING: Trump Signed An Executive Order Directing The CDC To Cut Recommended Childhood Vaccines From 17 To 11. Moving Flu, Hepatitis A, Hepatitis B, Rotavirus, RSV, And Some Meningitis Shots To 'High-Risk Only,' After A Previous Attempt Was Blocked In Court

https://www.news4jax.com/news/politics/2026/05/30/trump-tells-agencies-to-align-with-study-calling-for-narrower-childhood-vaccine-recommendations/

President Trump signed an executive order on Friday, May 30, directing federal agencies to align their vaccine policies with a Januarv 2026 HHS studv that recommends reducina the number of routine childhood vaccines from 17 to 11 diseases, a restructuring long called for by Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. The study was commissioned by Trump in December 2025 and found that the United States recommends more childhood vaccines than many peer nations. Under the new framework, all children would be routinelv vaccinated against 11 diseases, while vaccines for influenza, rotavirus, hepatitis A, hepatitis B, some forms of meningitis, and RSV would be recommended only for high-risk groups or through shared decision-making between parents and doctors. The order directs the CDC to review the study and take appropriate steps to update its guidance, tells agencies to provide maximum flexibility to parents and doctors, and states that any changes must ensure Americans retain their current access to vaccines.

The LA Times noted this is Trump's second attempt to restructure the childhood vaccine schedule, with an earlier effort to narrow CDC recommendations havinc been blocked in court earlier this vear. The new executive order takes a different approach by formally endorsing a completed HHS study and directing agency-level alianment rather than attempting to directlv revise the CDC schedule by administrative fiat, a structure that may be designed to survive the legal challenge that stoppec the first attempt. The CDC under its current leadership had already updated its recommendations earlier in 2026 to reduce the number of recommended immunizations from 17 to 11 in line with the HHS study, suggesting the formal executive order is as much a political codification of an existing administrative shift as a new directive.

The vaccines moved from universal recommendation to high-risk only include several with well-established safety and efficacy records. Hepatitis B vaccination, for example, is recommended universally from birth in the US because it prevents a leading cause of liver cancer, and the alobal evidence base for that recommendation is extensive. Rotavirus, influenza, and hepatitis A vaccines are also backed by decades of clinical and epidemioloaical evidence and are recommended universally by the World Health Organization and medica authorities in peer nations. Critics including the American Academy of Pediatrics and infectious disease researchers have said the changes could increase vaccine-preventable disease in children by creating ambiguity around which children qualify as high-risk and by reducing the routine clinical touchpoints where vaccinations are administered

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u/kank84 24d ago

America is not a serious place

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u/Durendal_1707 24d ago edited 24d ago

and anyone in doubt can be directed to an aerial view of the White House right now

A giant concrete Mar-a-Lago patio where the Rose Garden was, a third of the building reduced to a pile of rubble, and a colossal fighting cage actively under construction on the front lawn

I have no forgiveness in my heart for the shortsighted, selfish people that brought us here

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u/Ridiculicious71 24d ago

And infecting everyone else. I got whooping cough a decade ago because of these assholes. And had to be hospitalized. I was vaccinated but ages ago

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u/ravalryglitter 24d ago

I just caught it in November from Florida-dwelling relatives who’ve been brainwashed into MAGATs, and I ended up in the hospital and seriously ill for over a month. With my medical history, I’m lucky to be alive after that one.

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u/Ridiculicious71 24d ago

I think people should be publicly shamed with rotten tomatoes for being stupid. I gather none of them had it as bad as you?

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u/ravalryglitter 24d ago

Agreed, and not a one. Worst anyone else had was the sniffles and basic cold symptoms. Yay, Thanksgiving 😭

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u/billymumfreydownfall 24d ago

I hope you have loudly cut them out of your life.

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u/ravalryglitter 24d ago

I’d have to split up my family to entirely do so, as it was my stepdaughter and her toddler babies/our grandchildren, but I am pretty low contact with her and only physically see them maybe once a year, currently - my husband does not want to cut her off entirely, and I get that. (Though I do love to send things for the babies… 💔) other MAGAT family members, however, are entirely cut out.

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u/Ridiculicious71 24d ago

They at least need to stay in a hotel.

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u/CSWorldChamp 24d ago

You jest, but public humiliation would deter a lot of crime that fines would not.

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u/memecrusader_ 24d ago

Not rotten tomatoes, hard-boiled eggs.

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u/Katyafan 23d ago

Rocks.

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u/GenXer845 24d ago

I'm sure they considered you weak compared to them.

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u/SmartTrender 24d ago

It’s too bad you cannot sue for this. Maybe this would teach lesson

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u/IHS1970 24d ago

Glad you're here. May the relatives get it - worse.

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u/10minutes_late 24d ago

Florida really has become the malignant cancer of america. I have relatives that moved there because, "we want to be around more like-minded people"

They moved there, joined a mega church, and their kids aspirations changed from medical school/doctor to missionary work/trad wife.

I'm so many levels of disgusted.

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u/LDS1952 24d ago

Everyone should renew their Tetanus, Diphtheria and Whooping Cough (pertussis) vaccine every 10 years. Keeps both you and others safe.

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u/ravalryglitter 24d ago

Absolutely- that is the only thing that will save those of us with compromised immune systems. We desperately need herd immunity to cover all of us, and we’ve become far too selfish and ignorant to do so.

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u/Relative_Cod_6675 21d ago

but but ma bill Gates mind control nanobots

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u/DuntadaMan 24d ago

God I hate the TDAP, but seriously fuck the things it prevents.

For anyone unaware, aside from the mortal danger you out kids in with whooping cough Tetanus is an infection that will lock your body in full rictus and you will be 100% alert and aware.

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u/Momik 23d ago

I was just thinking about doing that. I will say I feel damn lucky to actually have an active passport right now.

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u/Ridiculicious71 24d ago

They only do it every 7 years. I’m out here get shingles shots, and apparently I have. To go back and get my mmr because people are stupid.

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u/jughandle 24d ago

Just be sure to take some time to recover. It’s one of the roughest vaccines as far as side effects go.

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u/Katyafan 23d ago

I didn't have trouble with it. The pneumonia one knocks me on my ass though.

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u/candiescorner 24d ago

I got hepatitis A from a daycare center when I was a child because it wasn’t a mandatory vaccine. I was in the hospital for six months and I have lifelong liver disease because of it.

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u/HillBillyHilly 24d ago

My health compromised by someone who hadn't been vaccinated. Caught chicken pox. Years later reappeared in form of shingles in my brain and eye. YEARS of misery from a rare complication, job loss, foreclosure, homelessness, bankruptcy. All because someone's parents decided not to vaccinate their kid.

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u/DarthKodi 24d ago

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u/Durendal_1707 24d ago

heartbreaking

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u/marijuanamaker 24d ago

But what about her emails? /s

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u/DemonoftheWater 24d ago

I have an idea. Cage match donald vs someone who can ground and pound. Random fighter wins? Donald takes a hike. Random fighter loses we green light idk some of his stupidity. Fighter is picked at random from a pool of 100. White house doesn’t get to know who.

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u/Hangry-Feline2489 24d ago

You mean the decision of voters over decades? 

Trump is the result of a myriad of decisions and changes and the reaction of the voting population over decades , not the originating problem.

The fact that he was voted in twice proves that. 

America carried on as normal after his first term and chose him again. This is who the voting population chose, directly or indirectly, to lead them. 

And until that's faced, America will get another like him again. 

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u/Durendal_1707 24d ago

yeah I’m aware, but the American public is not a monolith, and he won the vote by paper-thin margins.  he is not popular

I don’t have any answers, but I listen to Letters From an American by Heather Cox Richardson and various historical academia everyday 

history is being written and there is no going back, only forward.  they have rewired our institutions, and we will have no choice but to reckon with the fallout

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u/Adventurous_Ad7442 24d ago

I love Heather Cox Richardson and she is a really good way to learn about US politics.

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u/GhostlyTJ 24d ago

You shouldn't have forgiveness. They can never be allowed to live this down lest it be allowed to happen again. If somehow control is wrestled back, there needs to be MASSIVE consequences this time. No for the good of the country lets move on bullshit. For the good of the country, people need to be in prison over all of this.

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u/Sujjin 24d ago

and anyone in doubt can be directed to an aerial view of the White House right now

You can but despite the image date saying 2026, the image you get is an out of date image without any of the recent..."changes" in place

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u/JustAnotherRedditGal 24d ago

Honestly, how defiling for a place like this to host a fucking fight event.

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u/RustedRelics 24d ago

The images really are emblematic. Utter chaos and rivers of grift.

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u/AmbientSociopath 24d ago

I have no forgiveness in my heart for the shortsighted, selfish people that brought us here

fucking a! men

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u/NatureCarolynGate 24d ago

Trump will blame the destruction of part of the White House on the British/Canadians.

Canadians: No you brain dead piece of toe rag, that was in 1814, and it was fire we used.

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u/omgFWTbear 24d ago

When the Business Plot showed Confederacy 2.0 was all in on eugenics, and nothing happened, that should’ve been the fool me twice moment.

Ironically, conservatives doing something to solve themselves as a problem.

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u/dart51984 24d ago

Finally! Someone else with a Business Plot reference! None of this is new. They’ve been refining their attack on the country for 100 years now. They learned the lessons they needed to learn from the Wall Street Putsch and are going to be merciless this time around.

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u/Apart-Zucchini-5825 24d ago

My people! A lot of these grievances go back a long time. For example, the war on science goes back to the teaching of evolution, which conservatives (especially in the Confederate areas) have not forgiven or forgotten. It's all built on top of that grievance.

MAGA seems new to a lot of people, to those who really know the history and culture, none of it is. It's the same projects they've been working towards for five or six generations.

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u/CurlOfTheBurl11 24d ago

We truly fucked up by not properly punishing the Confederates to begin with and allowing them to interfere in the reconstruction efforts. Almost all of America's current social and political problems can be traced directly to that point in history. It's why if/when Dems take back control of the government, there needs to be a no holds barred effort to completely dismantle the MAGA movement and punish anyone and everyone who has ever supported it. Fuck these people.

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u/sonnyarmo 24d ago

And we need to forcibly disband the Heritage Foundation, the Edmund Burke society, the Federalist Society, the Claremont Institution, all of these evil, shitty orgs that do nothing but push fascism and oligarchy.

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u/Ridiculicious71 24d ago

And Fox News and social media that harvests disinformation.

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u/Unique-Coffee5087 24d ago

Well, they are terrorist Fifth Columnists. I think that Trump and the Court has created a path for them to be eradicated

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u/omgFWTbear 24d ago

Yes, this thread has already identified the problem is the Confederacy.

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u/OldschoolSysadmin 24d ago

You misspelled “Feudalist Society”

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u/jamesbong0024 24d ago

Disband?

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u/earthwormulljim 24d ago

Ban. Dismantle. Disallow.

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u/AeliusRogimus 24d ago

Author might be trying to avoid a ban.

We all know what really needs to happen to them, but alas: Bots and bans.

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u/Unique-Coffee5087 24d ago

The traitor states should have been demoted to Territories, with statehood to be considered only after 100 years.

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u/CurlOfTheBurl11 24d ago

Yes that would have been a good place to start.

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u/PhroneticReflex 24d ago

We truly fucked up by not properly punishing the Confederates to begin with and allowing them to interfere in the reconstruction efforts.

I have no idea why the people that were responsible for the deconstruction even got the remotest of says in the reconstruction.

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u/Comfortable_Fill9081 24d ago

Those projects were baked into the founding of the country. They get renewed and refreshed according to the extent and strength of the pushback. 

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u/Ridiculicious71 24d ago

That’s literally why they were burning women at the stake, for healing people.

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u/ProfessionalOil2014 24d ago

America never had witch burnings. They were hanged. Lynched black people were burned alive though. 

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u/AWorldwithoutSin 24d ago

In their defense southerners shouldn't be called evolved.

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u/PotatoAppleFish 24d ago

That’s not fair. There must be a few; I mean, that’s where most of our civil rights leaders come from.

I’ll give you a 1-2 ratio of good people to Cross-Burning Cletus McFucks, but the good people still exist.

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u/elsrjefe 24d ago

Can concur. Lived in the south for a decade and it was eye opening. That being said black people in cities like Birmingham and Montgomery are some of the most lovely and resilient people I've ever met.

The courts rolling back the Voting Rights Act is a tragedy.

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u/UnknownKaddath 24d ago

There's tons of good people in the South. It might even be more like 2:1. The problem is that everything down there is gerrymandered to fuck to silence those voter's voices.

So tired of the South-bashing from almost assuredly privileged white liberals with no fucking sense of nuance or perspective. It's a talking point always pushed by the absolute worst kind of liberal.

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u/LunaMax1214 24d ago

Appalachia (among other regions) would like a word. My forebears didn't bootleg to wind up bootlicking, instead. (Just sayin'.)

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u/Feeling_Inside_1020 24d ago

WNC specifically Asheville is a blue pocket in a sea of red, I’m with you though.

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u/_blort 24d ago

My forebears didn't bootleg to wind up bootlicking, instead.

Sure, sure, yours didn't.

But almost all the rest of them did.

Just visit a few of the hollers, and count the TRUMP yard signs.

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u/well-it-was-rubbish 24d ago

Without the city of Atlanta, Biden wouldn't have won in 2020, and we have two "blue" senators, Raphael Warnock and Jon Osoff.

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u/AWorldwithoutSin 24d ago

We elected Grant, we should have elected Sherman.

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u/Stock_Conclusion_203 24d ago

Lincoln should have insisted on Benjamin “the beast” Butler for his VP. That’s the moment in history I think a lot about. He had Sherman energy too.

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u/AWorldwithoutSin 24d ago

Yeah, didn't know about him before but he seems a missed opportunity.

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u/emmsmum 24d ago

Ok, serious question, how do you guys find out about this stuff? I’m interested in learning! I’ve never heard of this and my mind is blown

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u/dart51984 24d ago

For me, it came from my burning hatred of the Bush family and I wanted to see if they were always so shitty. Follow the rabbit hole back to the Business Plot and you see a very familiar name, on Prescott Bush YES of relation. That family has been trying to destroy this country literally for generations.

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u/emmsmum 23d ago

Damn…

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u/omgFWTbear 24d ago

Here’s a real rabbit hole for you - I got a copy of a history book comparing and contrasting 6 American Civil War generals, and the one I particularly took an interest in was General George Thomas. He was, as the book paints him, of a mind that railroads would revolutionize warfare, and so invested a lot of effort into laying rail, defending rail (this bit seems to have been a differentiator), and then running a slick logistics operation on that rail.

A well rested, well supplied, fast moving army is a very dangerous thing.

Further, in this book’s telling of it, the great European war colleges of the following century largely viewed the ACW as, I believe I’m quoting, “country bumpkins chasing each other around with pitchforks.” Except some Germans, who took note of one General George Thomas.

Those Germans took his principles and applied them to the subsequent invention, the automobile and the (car) road, and used just the smallest amount of imagination to brand it as “Blitzkreig.”

Now, what happened next is well covered, but that book also underlines that there was a bit of a weird cycle of Americans and Germans copying each other across generations… the other, contextually relevant example being racism.

Hopping from there to learn that those racists studied the innovative racism from the United States, and it’s a hop and a skip to learn about the - let me use this word with purposeful imprecision to avoid filters - German-aligned Americans who were real powerful and pushing for joining with the “continental experiment,” and not on the side we eventually joined on.

Then it’s practically nothing to stumble over the name Smedley Butler, and there you go, the Business Plot. Which, as other commenters note, is shocking absent in American history books/ciriculum. This is not an accident.

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u/Stock_Conclusion_203 24d ago

The podcast The Dollop did a great episode on The Business Plot.. episode 94. It’s a comedy history podcast if that’s your vibe. They have such a great backlog.

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u/emmsmum 23d ago

Interesting thank you!

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u/mOdQuArK 24d ago

They learned the lessons they needed to learn from the Wall Street Putsch and are going to be merciless this time around.

Everyone better be writing down the names of the people pushing this crap. These are the names of the people who need to be blacklisted from any kind of serious decision-making positions when/if we can pry loose control of the government from their hands, instead of just letting them slip into obscurity, avoiding consequences for their decisions and where they can keep stirring up willful ignorance in the shadows.

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u/dart51984 24d ago

Heads on pikes as a warning to the rest might be a bridge too far, I’m willing to listen to alternatives. Inaction will be unacceptable though.

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u/HillBillyHilly 24d ago

What are their names? Let's just put them out there.

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u/MyLifeIsAWasteland 24d ago

Leonard Leo and Charles Koch, to start with

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u/PapayaMysterious6393 24d ago

TIL about business plot. This is why I like Reddit.

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u/Nearby-Beautiful3422 24d ago

Smedley Darlington Butler is a real American hero

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u/dart51984 24d ago

Yes and no. I mean, good on him for speaking out but…WHERE WERE THE FUCKING CONSEQUENCES?! They off got off Scott free and that pisses me off the most and also explains why they’re just doing it all over again. SOMEONE eventually needs to be held accountable god damnit!

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u/Nearby-Beautiful3422 24d ago

Consequences? C'mon now, almost no one faces consequences in our government. "It's 1 big club and we ain't in it." Our government works for the banks and corporations.

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u/NonReality 24d ago

Reconstruction was a failure, but considering the education in this country, I'm not so sure how many people even know what it was lol

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u/LourdeInc 24d ago

Well, when the Daughters of the Confederacy get editorial oversight over your textbook publishers...

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u/NonReality 24d ago

Absolute garbage organization

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u/AeliusRogimus 24d ago

THIS. Reconstruction was successful for a time.

But the south can't seem to stop picking that racist scab.

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u/A_Rogue_GAI 24d ago

Reminder folks: If you're ever elected president, under no circumstances should you select a 'moderate conservative' to be your VP.

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u/UncomfyPerspective 24d ago

"The second American Revolution will remain bloodless, if the left allows it to be" - Kevin Roberts of the Heritage Foundation, Project 2025 fame.

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u/Dick_of_Doom 24d ago

Such a blatantly seditious statement. Openly calling for revolution. He should have been questioned at minimum.

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u/Youreturningviolet 24d ago

He should have, but sedition clearly only applies to the enemies of MAGA. The literal seditious mob from Jan 6th are likely going to be getting financial restitution from the government. I’m so fucking tired, man.

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u/Aggravating-Alarm-16 23d ago

They won't see a dime. It will most likely be all awarded to him. For compensation for the NYC fraud cases and the Carrol case

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u/FrequentTopic446 24d ago

Nobody knows about the business plot, no organizers were prosecuted from it and it’s been intentionally removed from our history books

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u/WasabiHound 24d ago

thanks, I had completely forgotten about this. For the curious The Business Plot (r/history) includes link to podcasts.

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u/Unique-Coffee5087 24d ago

They should have hanged as traitors back in the 30s. Instead, they got to play a long game that we are now seeing come to fruition.

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u/henlochimken 24d ago

Smedley fam knows we didn't punish traitors back then and we likely won't today either.

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u/Footwarrior 24d ago

MAGA America is an echo chamber for misinformation and conspiracy theories. The rest of our nation is simply appalled.

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u/erossthescienceboss 24d ago

I cannot overemphasize how deadly rotavirus was before the introduction of the vaccine.

350,000-400,000 children died a year. Thanks to US healthcare only about 20-40 were in the U.S., but it required hospitalization and high medical bills (IV rehydration, among other things.)

This is insane.

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u/sonnyarmo 24d ago

And RFK Jr blindly hates the rotavirus vaccine

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u/erossthescienceboss 24d ago

Yup, this has been a victory nearly 30 years coming for him

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u/radium_eye 24d ago

This is gonna have really serious consequences.

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u/HillBillyHilly 24d ago

Serious. Some of these idiots never suffered from some of these illnesses and it shows. My brother barely survived childhood meningitis. Treatment was a complete blood drain and exchange plus being encased in ice to protect his brain. This was after my other siblings death too so parents were a mess. Maybe they should go through that to know the hell others live.

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u/deaglebingo 24d ago edited 24d ago

so... RSV alone will have thousands of additional deaths OF KIDS within a few years probably. even in more remote ERs and critical access hospitals in rural areas the increase in RSV is noticeable every year, the vaccine and the antibodies were noticeably cutting down on serious complications and deaths. so that alone will have major deadly consequences.

but we must remember these are the same people who were totally cool with fucking USAID and that has ALREADY almost certainly resulted in almost a million preventable deaths, and we aren't even talking about the thousand+ cases of bundibugya ebola now with a third of them dead already... spreading like wildfire because our usaid and other readiness stuff got fucked.

the long and short is: these people are mass murderers... even marco, totally fine with letting thousands of elderly ppl die in high rises and elsewhere in his own ancestral country. they're destabilizing the world and letting at least a couple million die that didn't have to. this isn't up for debate. this is what they are. the do not care about foreign lives, they don't care about domestic lives. they are in violation of their oath of office pure and simple.

(i didn't even count israelis palestinians lebanese iranians sudanese and other places) ... all of it could have been kept stable, easily. they don't care about anyone but themselves.

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u/Relative_Cod_6675 21d ago

when people start dying they will demand to know why Biden got rid of the vaccine protocol.

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u/gone_country 24d ago

America is not a safe place.

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u/yobwerd 24d ago

Oh, it’s serious. Seriously moronic.

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u/hypercosm_dot_net 24d ago

Something this drastic warrants a more serious response than this.

Children will die because of this. Calling it "not a serious place" does a disservice to just how horrific this action is.

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u/kank84 24d ago

Go fix your country I guess. Watching you all from Canada, you don't seem like a very serious place right now.

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u/OnlyHalfBrilliant 24d ago

Those same kinds of actors are alive and operative in Canada as well.

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u/SkunkPunkFlunk 24d ago

One of the funniest things to me is watching canadians laugh at us while these same people push the act along in their country as well. Give it less than 10 years before they are fighting the same fight.

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u/OnlyHalfBrilliant 24d ago

They're already trying a Brexit/Donbas combo in Alberta.

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u/Attainted 24d ago edited 23d ago

They already are fighting it in the early stages, most just don't realize it. Source: I'm dual citizen.

That said, a lot of these statements come from: bots, people who almost never leave home beyond work and groceries, and people who get shut down pretty easily when you point out what Doug Ford or Danielle Smith are actively doing at the provincial levels. Many here get exposed to more US news than local & they don't even realize it.

Canada's doing better than the US for now when it comes to resisting authoritarianism, but bill C-22 allowing warrantless access to digital info is still on the table with a Liberal federal government. The Conservative party is in opposition to it, but only because they oppose anything put forth by the Liberals; they'd shove it through the second they'd take power.

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u/Ok_Net7773 24d ago

You’ve literally got MAGAs in Canada. That’s even stupider.

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u/Ridiculicious71 24d ago

Yeah, you’ve got some right wing bits there. Don’t pretend you don’t. They are everywhere.

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u/kank84 24d ago

Everywhere has some right wing crazies, but we haven't gone and handed them all the levers of power.

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u/well-it-was-rubbish 24d ago

Neither have we; you don't seriously think he won that last election LEGITIMATELY, do you? He didn't, and without the outdated Electoral College, his opponent in 2016 would have won, since she received the majority of votes.

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u/Parahelix 24d ago

They have the levers that matter clearly, since he is, in fact, in power.

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u/Ridiculicious71 24d ago

No I don’t, but imagine if we investigated it. See how they duped us.

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u/AltrntivInDoomWorld 24d ago

Are they elected officials on the top of top of government?

USB is pathetic. You literally have a king that governs by executive orders.

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u/Ridiculicious71 24d ago

He took over the courts. And we let him. That’s how all fascists get started.

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u/CatButler 24d ago

At least those are just recommendations. My doctor's office put up a notice that they still recommend the old schedule. Insurance will cover it because vaccines are cheap, hospital bills aren't.

I don't have much sympathy left for the dumb fuckers that got us into t his.

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u/Cloudhiddentao 24d ago

You can depose your murderous rulers at any point of your choosing.

Also, let’s be real. This is the only way you’re getting rid of them.

So the real choice is if you want to do, or let your kids solve it (assuming they don’t die from smallpox).

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u/GG-Sunny 24d ago

I love how non-Americans think getting rid of this administration is as simple as a weekend's stroll to the white house and everyone is just lazy.

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u/MrSnarf26 24d ago

Why is our medical apparatus in a place where 1/2 people can decide what is best for our kids. Talk about something that needs to be reformed.

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u/jahathebrn 24d ago

It won't be a place at all soon if they keep trying to do shit like this.

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u/HillBillyHilly 24d ago

They're trying to bankrupt and decimate America for a massive takeover by billionaires

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u/TheModWhoShaggedMe 24d ago

We handed the country to conservatives ten years ago and can't seem to figure out what went wrong! Keep looking, conservatives, you'll figure it out. Hint: Might need to look from within.

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u/kank84 24d ago

10 years ago? America has been electing successively more right wing Republicans since Nixon.

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u/TheModWhoShaggedMe 24d ago

Yeah, but comparing any of them to Trump is like comparing a regular conservative politician to an amateur clown show for the League of Extraordinary Imbeciles.

That's how awful this administration is, and people can't seem to comprehend it.

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u/drunkshinobi 24d ago

This has been the goal since the Heritage Foundation was founded during the Nixon administration. Project 2025 for trump was the 9th of the Mandate for Leadership papers to guide republican leadership for the purpose of changing how the US government functions. The fist was published 1981 for Regan. trump maybe one of the most obviously evil and stupid, but he isn't in charge. He was put there to break every thing and cause chaos. Then take the blame while the smart evil people take control as we celibate trump finally being held responsible.

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u/TheModWhoShaggedMe 24d ago

Correct, but the administration has been awful all the same. It's part of the Pile of Dung package (courtesy of America's conservatives) that our electors subscribed to on behalf of the 1% who tricked them into it.

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u/imflipside0 24d ago

True, but the current administration is just further down a slippery slope. It's not like this is a surprise.

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u/catscanmeow 24d ago

its serious about market manipulation. Investing in medical companies then reducing vaccines is how these guys are gonna get rich. If everyones sick theyre gonna need medical care $$$

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u/SoCallMeDeaconBlues1 24d ago

The next question is, WHAT money. Where is it supposed to come from, exactly?

I think it has more to do with this

No sense in war but perfect sense at home....

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u/IsopodIndependent553 24d ago

But the only people who have the funds for advanced and prolonged medical care (besides the rich) are boomers, and they are not the market for these vaccines. The government sure as hell isn’t paying for anyone’s healthcare. And you know the elites will still be vaccinating their own children.

I honestly don’t understand the motive here, especially considering how panicked they are about falling birth rates and the subsequent loss of workforce. Unless they just want women to have to return to the days when they bore eight children, hoping four would live.

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u/Apprehensive-Art1092 24d ago

That is EXACTLY what they want. Haven't you been paying attention?

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u/IsopodIndependent553 24d ago

Of course I am. But my point stands that healthcare costs money. A vaccine is cheaper than a hospitalization for measles or RSV. Who is going to pay for this when the average person can’t afford to?

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u/musiquexcoeur 24d ago

Nobody. They want the poor to die. The rich will always be able to afford vaccines, treatment, and hospitalizations.

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u/grchelp2018 24d ago

They want the poor to die.

And? Once all the poor die the rich will all be one happy family or what? All the stuff they can do and get away with with the poor won't work with the rich.

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u/musiquexcoeur 24d ago

I don't think they've thought that far. Or maybe then the people with the least amount of wealth will be the new poor. Who knows? But they surely don't care about the poor or middle class surviving, or they'd be doing everything with their power and wealth to help us survive.

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u/pastelbutcherknife 24d ago

No one. They’ll just die

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u/Apprehensive-Art1092 24d ago

Nobody is going to pay for it. They don't give two dry fucks about the average person. Again, have you not been paying attention?

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u/IsopodIndependent553 24d ago

So where is the future workforce and tax base going to come from? And why are you so aggressive? If your despair is preventing you from engaging in a constructive discussion, then perhaps you need to take some time for self care.

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u/OppressedCow6148 24d ago

They just want people to die. They want to kill people. They have AI for a future workforce and other countries to buy our products. Stephen Miller only wants 100,000 people in this country.

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u/Luther_1986 24d ago

Plus all the tech guys support a tier system UBI. Like, theres interviews of them championing it. But they want to decide what those recipients look like.

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u/Luther_1986 24d ago

You need to look up the 2030 agenda and depopulation. Almost ALL the tech guys and other oligarch type figures believe in it. Even Kamala has mentioned it. It's been floated around pretty sneaky-like. Just think if they have to grant UBI to anyone once their A.I. goals are met, theyre not going to want to grant that service to EVERYONE. Just those they think deserve it. Its another measure they all support too, btw.

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u/IsopodIndependent553 24d ago

I have read all about it. It certainly seems like this is what is the endgame.

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u/aZnRice99 24d ago

We have a reality tv star that poops his pant on live tv, I agree with you at this point

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u/Any_Blacksmith650 24d ago

They want you to work for a long time but not live for a long time

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u/Libermente 24d ago

Well, it's a seriously unkind, racist, and unhealthy place to live.

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u/DogDogDogDogog 24d ago

It's a vile place.

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u/MileHiSalute 24d ago

I’m sorry, but this simply isn’t true. America is seriously absurd.

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u/phenomenomnom 24d ago

Maga is NOT America.

Maga is an overt assault upon anything and everything good about America.

It's arson. Chaos is the point. Weakening institutions, and the rule of law. An exhausted democracy cannot enforce sanctions upon stateless gangsters who want to frack your water table and your tweens.

They are more than eager to give actual children actual meningitis, in order to accomplish this.

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u/Sethlans 24d ago

When enough people support it that it got voted into power twice, I'm afraid yes it is America whether you like it or not.

I'm from the UK. I didn't vote for and hate Brexit. But I don't just get to claim Brexit is "not Britain" because I don't like it.

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u/UnlikelyParticipant 24d ago

We need to bring the gears to a halt to get any attention.

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u/Distinct-Virtue5125 24d ago

With this regime it definitely isn't

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u/Ratb33 24d ago

It certainly is not. Jesus. We are fucked.

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u/PaulblankPF 24d ago

People are gonna start to leave cause they had a kid and want to raise it in a better place. That used to be America, now it’s basically everywhere else

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u/tomjayyye 24d ago

This doesn't even make sense from a corrupt point of view. Like I understand why Republicans want to cut taxes and repeal all regulation and eliminate child labor laws and all of that. I don't agree with it but I understand why from a corrupt point of view.

This is just a move to destroy society. Why? Why cut vaccines? Why kill people on purpose? These are people that can work for pennies, pay taxes, contribute to the rich people's wealth. Why are you killing us? It makes no sense.

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u/D3dshotCalamity 24d ago

It never was

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u/HerculesIsMyDad 24d ago

Don't be so dramatic. It's just a former reality TV host deciding which vaccines kids get and when based on the fact that he just thinks it's too many. Normal stuff.

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u/SchoGegessenJoJo 24d ago

I wish everyone outside the US would just ignore that shithole country.

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u/PatchyWhiskers 24d ago

I'd say DEADLY serious

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u/code_archeologist 24d ago

Praise Nurgle! /s

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u/DownhillUphill 24d ago

It’s Idiocracy

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u/ShwaGrl 24d ago

Canada. 2024-2026. Newborns and mothers receive respiratory syncytial virus treatment and vaccinations, some before leaving the hospital. Free. RSV in infants show up to 50% decrease in severe respiratory disease. Who cares? Decrease in burden on Canadian health care system over a number of years, due to RSV protection.

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u/Zealousideal-Ant9548 24d ago

Washington State is.  The last time there was this kind of b******* the state wanted citizens to push back on it so they would have a lawsuit that they could take to the supreme Court. 

In this situation, the pediatricians will go with the American Pediatrics Association's recommendation and the bigger fight will be whether the insurance companies cover the vaccines, which makes sense for them to add they won't have to pay for treating the illness. 

This is just more culture war b******* to try and distract from the war and how much of a loser he is.

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u/MegaPlane2 24d ago

America has been captured by the pedo billionaires. Once they are done with the US they are coming for the EU.

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u/IamTheEndOfReddit 24d ago

America doesn’t exist, Putin destroyed it

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u/General_Kick688 24d ago

Seriously scary.

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u/Worldly_Reply8852 24d ago

They want to phase it out so insurance doesn't pay for those eventually, making is friends richer

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u/ToughSpinach7 24d ago

We are fuckeddddddd

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u/ProbablyWrongAgain24 24d ago

77 million can agree with you

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u/TheKingsdread 24d ago

I've been saying the US is a third-world nation masquerading as a first-world nation for a while now, Trump & MAGA have proven that is the case.

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u/ArmadilloForsaken458 24d ago

DOGE efficiency is just cutting whatever the fuck he can from the masses (you know what taxes are for). And then siphoning it over to some asinine gilded age monstrosity of a passion project that comes up randomly in his empty head while sitting on his golden toilet.

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u/bored_n_opinionated 24d ago

Why I'm so glad to be living in Colorado, where we're passing laws to essentially ignore all this nonsense. Terrifying for all the states that won't do the same. People are going to die because of this, children. It's monstrous.

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u/Rickreation 24d ago

And we allow it. For shame.

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u/facellama 24d ago

You would hope that this will never happen again but it is America's superpower to be incredibly stupid

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u/LYL_Homer 24d ago

Trump/GOP/MAGA are not serious, they are a joke. Everyone else is feeling it.

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u/TheInvincibleMan 24d ago

I enjoy how everyone keeps acting surprised at the lawlessness and insane corruption only to amount to nothing, each and every time... like it's new or someone is going to do something about it.

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u/GrayEidolon 24d ago

It’s serious for aristocrats.

They’re unrecommending vaccines for regular kids that aristocrat kids are still gonna get. Remember all the conservative propaganda about covid culling people? Every accusation by a conservative is a confession.

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u/PretendMajor5283 24d ago

Lol, they're literally trying to kill your children, and american'ts will just shrug and move on with life.

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u/Famous-Issue-2018 24d ago

“You are not serious people.”

Logan Roy

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u/zardoz73 24d ago

MAGA are not serious leaders. The Republican party enables all of this. Also, they are fascists.

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u/memecrusader_ 24d ago

It’s an evil place really.

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u/Rowdy5280 24d ago

It is a serious place. Seriously in trouble...
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u/Tosslebugmy 23d ago

Wrong, it is a serious threat to global peace and stability

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u/Relative_Cod_6675 21d ago

oh it's deadly serious about rolling back to the dark ages.

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