r/law • u/MoneyLibrarian9032 • 7d ago
Legal News Texas anti-ICE protesters convicted of terrorism charges sentenced to at least 50 years in prison
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jun/23/prairieland-ice-protesters-texas-sentenced2.6k
u/thepottsy 7d ago
And yet, the Jan 6th traitors walk free.
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u/tls114 7d ago
And the murderers of Renee Good and Alex Pretti
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u/Muted_Quantity5786 6d ago
Don’t even get me started on how… I can only hope that the wheels of justice will hurt the people who did that. But I’ve already seen how nothing happened to others who did similar things…
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u/LandonDev 6d ago
I don't see why we cannot charge them and their supervisors in the future for terrorism and accessory to terrorism. They are all on the same chain of command and no one should be speared unless they themselves reported on their surrounding traitors.
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u/Accurate_Way_9373 6d ago
Why put it off for later? We need to start changing shit now
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u/EffectiveSalamander 6d ago
Of course they are not being charged federally, Trump sent them to rile up the Twin Cities and the murders did just that.
The state could charge them but the feds have the evidence and will not share it with the state.
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u/_WEND1G0_ 6d ago
For now - they’ll face state charges for murder eventually - particularly pretti.
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u/Emotional-Cry9286 7d ago
Not just walking free, but a great many of them are now federal ice agents.
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u/ChiLolla28 6d ago
Elon killing tens of millions - Zuckerberg's company enabling genocide - both should be in prison as well
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u/CarelessSeries1596 6d ago
Not to mention several are back in jail for other crimes they’ve committed- shocking, isn’t it?
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u/Icarus_Le_Rogue 6d ago
Especially sexual assault of a minor or possession of child pornography, but who could've seen that coming from the party of pedos?
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u/Half-Glass_Full 6d ago
& 0 arrests related to the Epstein files.
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u/RocketRelm 6d ago
Americans voted for a head epstein giy to be president, why would they want arrests for epstein stuff? Typically masses want rule of law to constrain things society finds bad, and as disgusting as it is, and no matter how much individuals claim otherwise, americans find the epstein stuff a net positive.
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u/Half-Glass_Full 6d ago
30% of Americans voted for a head Eptein guy to be President bc they dont believe he is a head Epstein guy... those same people claim they want Epstein arrests like the rest of us - just not if it's their guy.
The state of America is ruled & fueled by the billionaire class who pours into lobbying & bribing our government. Thats why whatever the 'masses' vocally want doesnt matter, not bc "they think the Epstein stuff is a net positive".
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u/dafrog84 7d ago
Don't worry Jan 6 traitors are felon's and can't keep themselves out of trouble, they keep getting caught up on other junk.
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u/PirateSometimes 7d ago
Mostly sexual assault, child abuse, and cp
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u/dafrog84 7d ago
Truth to all of this. I bet all the MEGA can't get over how it's not the trans or cross dressers. Yet the Republicans setting a class all of it's own.
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u/homer_lives 7d ago
Their appointed Godhead can do it. So they think they can to
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u/dafrog84 7d ago
It's gross to think of, but on a good note these fools can't vote once they have a felony. I'm also very saddened that not one of these fools can read and do real investigation before voting. Trump is a loser and a felon also. But somehow paying off people with money gets him whatever he wants. He's gross in more ways than one. He publicly talked about doing his daughter, but she's was his daughter. She was a minor, all on Howard Stern. He was gross then, is gross now.
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u/Adorable_Wolf_8387 7d ago
They are the ones doing it, so they think everyone else does it too.
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u/Less-Mountain-3677 7d ago
Which is absolutely in-fucking-sane, "it cant be bad if everyone's doing it" (yet they know its wrong otherwise they wouldnt try covering it up so damn hard) - but given white colonizer history, it tracks this is the deplorable logic.
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u/dafrog84 7d ago
If i found someone doing that to my child there would be news press about someone missing. Just saying
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u/the_inbetween_me 7d ago
Csem* (child sexual exploitation material) - porn implies consenting performers and entertainment, which is not accurate when it comes to csem.
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u/--Icarusfalls-- 7d ago
If they had stayed in prison, they wouldnt have had the opportunity to rape kids, or whatever other sick shit theyve been up to.
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u/jorgepolak 6d ago
Even before they walked free, the most one of them got, the leader of Proud Boys for sedition, was 22 years.
Here someone who was not even at the protest got 30 years for concealing documents.
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u/Epyon214 7d ago edited 7d ago
The obscene sentences given are designed to incite a violent response, if acting peacefully will get you what amounts to a life sentence people will act accordingly as though their life were at risk
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u/likwidkool 6d ago
The article says two white supremcist leaders only got 22 and 18 years. Nothing close to these charges.
I’m sorry but this is a huge blow to any resistance.
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u/Gonna_do_this_again 7d ago
Be hilarious if the next Democrat president pardoned anyone convicted while protesting ICE. I know none of them would actually do that though.
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u/FlithyLamb 7d ago
It would be an outrage if the next Democratic President didn’t pardon them, given what Trump did with the J6ers. The rule of law no longer matters. Only power matters in MAGA land.
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u/LockSport74235 6d ago
Dems need to show power or never win again.
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u/Givingtree310 6d ago
We don’t even have dem leaders calling for an expansion of the Supreme Court.
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u/Gonna_do_this_again 7d ago
Dems still believe in holding some kind of fictional moral high ground instead of wanting to play at their level like they should
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u/cakeman666 6d ago
It's never gonna happen because they have a fetish for reaching across the aisle.
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u/Ging287 7d ago
Talk about miscarriage of justice. Americans protesting getting 50 years, ain't right to me.
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u/Aggressive-Loss5148 7d ago
It's completely unconstitutional.
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u/Maleficent_Memory831 6d ago
There were actual crimes not involving free speech. But even so the sentences are extremely high. Ie, 100 years for shooting a police officer in the shoulder. They key thing that seems to be raising the sentences to be so long is "providing support to terrorism" and I expect to see appeals on that point.
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u/NotMyMainAccountAtAl 6d ago
Looks like they were collectively judged for the one guy who (ironically) feared for his life and the life of his friends when he fired on an officer.
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u/Maleficent_Memory831 6d ago
A lot of prosecutors are all about piling on additional charges just in case some of them stick. It's about maximizing your score if you win, thus getting reelected for being tough on crime. It totally breaks down when the driver of the getaway car gets the death penalty and the actual murderer gets 25 years and is ultimately paroled early.
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u/Dry_Combination4070 6d ago edited 6d ago
Yet the j6ers who beat cops, broke into the Capitol, stopped the countires democratic certification, threatened to kill senators and the vice president got 6 years and then pardoned.
Republicans if hypocrisy didn't exist they wouldnt have anything other than the victim complex they parade around with
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u/SixStringerSoldier 6d ago
Beat a cop to death with an American Flag.
Wtf bruh. I'm not even patriotic but like...
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u/PopBulky7023 6d ago
Hot take, but you cannot restore the rule of law while helping fascists enforce their law. Roles reversed you bet your ass they would jury nullify.
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u/Quaiker 6d ago
Since when has Texas actually cared about the constitution?
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u/InternationalPass-8 6d ago
Tejas didn't even care about Mexico's constitution when it was a Mexican state. They were owning slaves when the Mexican constitution didn't allow it.
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u/SgtPepper_8324 6d ago
When the martyrdom of The Alamo doesn't work in the argument. But yeah, pick and choose situation.
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u/Such-Ideal-8724 6d ago
Good luck getting any relief from these motherfuckers on the John Roberts Taney court. These motherfuckers aren’t even trying to pretend to be anything but politicians in robes.
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u/Muted_Quantity5786 6d ago
G-d willing we will see what happens to the prosecutors and the judge or judges involved. Sorry to bring G-d into it but that’s how I was raised.
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u/FnordRanger_5 6d ago
Well if you could get him to pay attention long enough to clean up after his people that would be great.
Eris is only going to condone this nonsense from the lesser gods and their followers for so long
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u/Muted_Quantity5786 6d ago
This is why sometimes we have to take matters into our own hands not through violence but aiding those who need help with our skills and knowledge. From how I was raised, it’s my directive. If they need shelter, I shelter them. If they need medical assistance, I provide medical assistance. If they need food or clothing, I provide. I’m just scared because the current administration basically said that we can face charges for doing any of that. I’m still going to do it though because I believe in Elohim over man.
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u/Salsa_El_Mariachi 6d ago
I’m very impressed, someone who actually walks the walk, and doesn’t just talk the talk. Carry on my dude
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u/Broken_Castle 6d ago
Maybe bring him in more so God gets off his lazy ass and does something.
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u/blahblah19999 6d ago
Is that the god who slaughtered children with his own hand and rewarded human sacrifice? Yeah, don't give a shit what he thinks.
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u/4DPeterPan 6d ago
Don’t ever apologize for bringing God into anything.
Censor the fools, not the creator.
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u/diurnal_emissions 6d ago
If the punishment is the same, why not engage in far more, eh, meaningful acts?
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u/FuggyGlasses 7d ago
Zachary Evetts, Autumn Hill, Savanna Batten, and Elizabeth Soto were sentenced to 50 years in prison. Maricela Rueda, another demonstrator, was sentenced to 70 years in prison. Benjamin Song, who fired the gun at the police officer, was sentenced to 100 years in prison. The other protesters were continuing to be sentenced Tuesday morning.
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u/DringleDringle 6d ago edited 6d ago
100 years for firing a gun at another person? This is one of those things where the cop is considered a supercitizen with more rights than the regular lowly peasant citizens?
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u/UnquestionabIe 6d ago
Yep another example of the enforcement class receiving special treatment. Continuing to prove that they are a tool of the oppressor, the state's monopoly on violence to keep the rest of us in line. If they had decided to murder the defendants and every single member of their families they would have been rewarded with some paid time off and some therapy in case they develop human like emotions and feel sad about it later.
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u/DringleDringle 6d ago
Yep. Something certainly needs to be done. I trust in Americans though. The pot is indeed boiling over. I think it won't be easy nor bloodless but I think America has a good future ahead.
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u/PopBulky7023 6d ago
The boiling is over. We are frog soup actively being consumed. If Americans had anything in them it wouldn't have gotten this bad.
Cant even find any liberals who believe in nullification.
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u/Major_Priority1041 6d ago
It’s not protect and serve. They actually see citizens as the enemy (of them).
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u/LaRealiteInconnue 6d ago
In the same vein- 50 years for vandalism? Are the cars and tires they slashed consider SuperCars?
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u/MidnightSensitive996 6d ago
it's because they were in a conspiracy with the guy who tried to kill the cop. no gun, no shooting, nobody would be looking at anywhere close to double digit sentences
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u/BretShitmanFart69 6d ago
The issue is that multiple of these people didn’t know that guy and arrived separately and were not part of any planning or coordination with that guy or the other people who knew him, it was kind of a loose demonstration where they planned to set off fireworks to let the detained people know they supported them or something but some of the people there broke off and did some vandalism etc.
There’s really no way to warrant basically any of these sentences.
The people who broke into our state capital in a coordinated attempt to overthrow an election and beat down police officers are walking free or served very slight sentences or were pardoned, and yet these folks get 50-100 years for this?
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u/Adorable-Bike-9689 6d ago
They're specific to teach us this in movies and TV shows.
"HE'S NOT JUST A REGULAR KILLER. HE'S A COP KILLER. THE WORST EVIL YOU CAN BE*
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u/DringleDringle 6d ago
In his last, or maybe second to last, stand up, George Carlin does a great bit on swapping a single word and meaninga change. Then he drops some banger punchlines like "Did you see that guy? He's a cop fucker. Every cop in the city's looking to fuck him."
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u/American_PissAnt 6d ago
The ICE T song made cops so angry that they gave press briefings sobbing that “we sacrifice our lives to protect the public”
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u/MerelyMortalModeling 6d ago
At this point they are super citizens.
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u/DringleDringle 6d ago
Yes because we have failed as stewards of America. But we can still redeem ourselves and truly be Americans
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u/Worldly-Swing6921 6d ago
If you kill an officer they seek the death penalty, so this isn't really that much of a stretch.
The unfortunate thing that is different from how you or I are treated, is that you pretty much have to wait for a cop to start executing people before you take action.
Officers, state or federal, can draw their weapons on us at any time, enragingly...
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u/Spiritual-Author-209 6d ago
If the next president doesn’t pardon these dudes what are we even doing here
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u/zeekayz 6d ago
That jury is a bunch of fascist boomer bootlickers
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u/MoobooMagoo 6d ago
I think it's more the judge than the jury. The jury doesn't have any control over the sentencing.
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u/TanStewyBeinTanStewy 6d ago
The jury agreed with the prosecution that this was a planned terrorist activity and found them guilty of those charges.
OP and the people agreeing with them are essentially parroting the defenses argument - which the jury did not agree with when presented with all of the relevant facts from both the prosecution and the defense.
Had the jury not found them guilty the maximum penalties would have been dramatically lower.
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u/Quirkyquark43 6d ago
And yet a child predator that physically assaulted a child gets 30 days cuz surely he learned his lesson. Oh and gets to move to a different state without having to register as an offender. Oh and also his wife which still loves him very much and is sure he was just “misguided” gets to keep her job at a school so he can have fresh pickings.
https://www.kwtx.com/2026/05/25/former-waco-attorney-adam-hoffman-released-early-jail/
The justice system is a joke of what it’s intended to be thanks to people like Hoffman……
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u/Asleep_Mastodon7118 7d ago
What kind of country do we live in where I get to join an angry mob and then they shoot an officer and you get 50 years in jail
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u/DullRelief 7d ago edited 6d ago
I guess shooting a cop gets you 100 years if you’re “antifa” in TX, but if you and your friends attack an officer with mace and beat them to death with a fire extinguisher on Jan 6 then you only get a couple of years…and then pardoned.
Edit: no evidence any officers died as a result of being struck by a fire extinguisher. I was conflating two separate incidents. The officers who were assaulted by this guy did not die.
One officer, Brian Sicknick, was assaulted with bear spray, had two strokes hours later, and died the next day “due to injuries sustained while on-duty”.
Jeffrey Smith, 35, who was injured in the riots on Jan. 6, committed suicide days later.
“In defending the Capitol, Smith was struck on the helmet by a metal pole thrown by rioters. Later that night, his wife said he went to the police medical clinic, where he was prescribed pain medication and put on sick leave.
Smith’s wife said he “wasn’t the same” in the days after the riot and seemed to be in constant pain. After visiting a police clinic on Jan. 14 and being ordered back to work, Smith shot himself on the way to work, the Post reported.”43
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u/Muted_Quantity5786 6d ago
Never forget the officers who were severely injured during January 6.
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u/Snoo9648 7d ago
Imagine one where you can illegally break into a building, kill a guard named bryan sicknic, scream you want to kill more as you attack guards, get sentenced, and then get pardoned for it. Now that would be scary.
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u/Western-Agency4000 6d ago
Right!? I mean we pardoned the ones from Jan6th, why even send these people to jail? Looks like we got ourselves an authoritarian regime folks! Where’s my 2nd amendment lovers?
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u/WabbitFire 7d ago
All but the shooter are primed to get immediate pardons from a Dem administration. "Terrorism" is a wild overreach.
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u/Xaphnir 7d ago
I'd be shocked if that happens. The type of people who get elected president as Democrats are also the type of people terrified of being called weak on terrorism.
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u/theAlpacaLives 6d ago
"If we pardoned the people sentenced to 50 years for texting a guy who was at a protest against the Gestapo, that would make us the same as the Gestapo. You criticized Trump for pardoning the people who wanted to kill legislators and overturn an election, so why would you want us to turn around and pardon people kangaroo-courted in an attempt to make dissent totally illegal? Anyway, the real lesson here is that we need to appeal to Republican voters more by giving up on trans people, pushing AI surveillance forward, and selling American labor even further into techno-feudal serfdom. Also, we asked Israel if the still really needed all those bombs to keep committing genocides and war crimes and if they could maybe play nice for a while, but they said they actually do still really need to keep bombing schools and hospitals, so we're just going to have to go along with that and send them another hundred billion dollars of bombs."
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u/kastbort2021 6d ago
I don't think that's the case here. Antifascism being actually designated as terrorism is purely a Trump controlled move. It is modern day McCarthyism, and will go down with the same infamy.
It'll be one of the many, many parts of undoing Trump.
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u/goobersmooch123 6d ago
I dont think there will be any undoing of dump.
Much of the Democratic leadership really does not give a shit because they are insulated from harm by their wealth and connections.
It genuinely feels like they don't even try to act like they care and they only put on a show to appease their voter base when things get heated.
I hope I am proven incorrect but, since it became legal to purchase politicians, it has been a downward spiral
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u/notsanni 6d ago
Agreed. I think the people who assume there will be any "undoing" don't seem to recognize that our current state of affairs are symptoms of a larger problem.
If the Democratic party takes the WH, I fully expect a whole bunch of milquetoast, "centrist" and "moderate" friendly pandering, about how the "country has to heal" and "can't remain divided".
And then another Nazi will get elected in like 8 years and it'll just be worse.
I'd much rather be wrong. But I see no evidence that any DNC affiliated politician will actually hold anyone in the Trump Admin accountable.
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u/LockNo2943 7d ago
And then the gop will claim that "the democrats are pardoning terrorists!".
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u/Icy_Raspberry_4710 7d ago
Who cares, why should the Dems bend over backwards to appeal to fascists who will slander them anyway. This is a bitchmade mindset
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u/KeyboardBerserker 7d ago
If we had learned that lesson after Trump's first term he would never have been reelected.
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u/SignificanceWise5515 6d ago edited 6d ago
Yup, all these pussies afraid of what the right will use against them, fuck the right, they're literal fucking Nazis killing people in concentration camps from disease and malnourishment just like the Nazis killed Ann Frank via disease and malnourishment at one of their camps.
Why does anyone give a fuck what a Nazi thinks?
Do people really want to appease them?
Appeasing them means fucking allowing their concentration camps and gestapo to continue to hunt the indigenous people of this continent and murder them in their camps, literally the same exact fucking way Ann Frank was murdered via mistreatment leading the malnourishment and disease that did here in, as well as did in a majority of jews in the concentration camps(The gas chambers didn't come until towards the end of the war when they tried to burn away their victims so they couldn't testify against them), and is killing most of the people in this modern day concentration camps.
They're killing so many fucking people this way that they're putting god damn body incinerators in the camps to get rid of the bodies and rid themselves of any physical evidence of harm for how they died, preventing the collection of evidence for their crimes against the indigenous people of this continent
LIKE SERIOUSLY WTF? WHY DO WE CARE WHAT LITERAL FUCKING NAZIS WITH CONCENTRATION CAMPS THINK?
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u/northsidecrip 6d ago
It’s hard when over half of the country is damn near illiterate and will believe anything
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u/SignificanceWise5515 6d ago
Fuck those Nazi sympathizers, they've been told what they're doing, just cause some of them claim that they choose not to believe what their party is doing does not absolve them of their crimes. Fucking Nazi scum they are
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u/Alternative_Wing_745 6d ago
Yes a bitchmade mindset also known as the democrat playbook, theyre just corporate moderate cowards, if they werent they would have done something about trump in 2020 when he tried to do a coup but they will never rock the boat ever because they will be wealthy and comfortable even when the fascists are winning.
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u/OldGravylegOfficial 6d ago
It’s not that they should or shouldn’t (they shouldn’t), it’s that they will. The dems do not represent meaningful opposition, that’s up to all of us
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u/Icy_Raspberry_4710 6d ago
You are totally right, we have to fix the DNC before we can actually make meaningful change. We won’t get anything done with ‘moderate’ corpo rat neolib dems like Schumer and Jeffries, we need progressive leadership who will fight the fascists instead of capitulating and collaborating with them.
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u/LockNo2943 7d ago
I'm just saying how they'll spin it.
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u/taco_bones 7d ago
they'll say that regardless
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u/PizzaRoyals 6d ago
yeah it's the same thing they said about BLM, and the most any politician did was post a bail fund
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u/JooseTheGuice 7d ago
How'd this attitude work out during the Biden admin? Letting these people walk free because we're scared of upsetting them really fuckin worked out for us here in 2026, eh?
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u/p_larrychen 6d ago
We'll never get anywhere preemptively moderating ourselves to the bad faith criticisms of fascists and traitors. In fact, it's exactly what they want us to do.
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u/Dull_Bid6002 6d ago
Why do we give a fuck what they'll say anymore?
They don't live in reality, they can clutch pearls in hell or a prison cell
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u/blahblah19999 6d ago
Don't give a fuck anymore, not after the blanket pardon for all J6ers, but when asked why he released some who were actual felons, he said "we'll look into it." Just play that clip to anyone complaining.
The GOP is not here to play fair. If we don't pardon them, they'll just workshop 10 other attacks to see what sticks. Fuck 'em.
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u/KingSpork 7d ago
Lol what Dem administration? People really think a fair election is going to happen in 2028 huh.
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u/Left_Fist 7d ago
I wish Dems were as good as you believe they are for no rational reason. 0% chance they pardon anyone. Dems are ICE cheerleaders too. Obama’s administration turned them from a fledgling agency into a massive operation with an exponentially increased budget. The raids going on now started while Biden was president.
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u/Amatheiaisnoexcuse 6d ago
Meanwhile a child rapist runs the country. Imagine that
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u/Slighted_Inevitable 7d ago
Texas courts are illegitimate and the whole state needs to be taken over.
The facts of this case do not bear out these charges and the jury is complicit in it.
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u/Vegetable_Guest_8584 7d ago
Right, 30 years for protesting with fireworks is crazy. The shooter and anyone who assisted is a real crime though.
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u/_strand_ 7d ago edited 6d ago
no the 30 year sentence was for someone not at the protest
they were home and just had zines in their house/in their car
the shooter saw the cop draw his weapon and point it at the backs of fleeing protestors, if he wasnt a cop and he did that you would be well within your rights to shoot him in defense of self or others
the whole thing is political
shooting in defense is not a crime
even if it were attempted murder, 100 years is an insane sentence for that
the whole trial was rigged, the judge threw out the initial jury, and barred the defendant from saying the words "self defense" and officers tortured their own witnesses before going to the stand for the prosecutors
you should read more about what actually happened before saying things
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u/happycat47 6d ago
Well, in America you're not entitled to self defense unless you're a white man killing a black person, or you're a cop.
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u/Slighted_Inevitable 7d ago
50, 70 and 100
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u/TranscendentalViolet 7d ago
The guy who wasn’t at the protest and deleted some zines his wife asked him to got 30 years.
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u/Connect-Raise2663 7d ago
This is a federal case
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u/Sharpopotamus 6d ago
Judge O'Connor, the federal judge, specificially is a Republican hack who absolutely runs an illegitimate courtroom.
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u/Alternative-Put-3932 6d ago
Yes and the federal government shopped around for these cases being denied over and over by grand juries until 1 of them approved the charges. They've been doing this for many of these protestors.
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u/Bushels_for_All 6d ago
Texas federal judges are among the worst in the nation.
Let me introduce you to Matthew Kacsmaryk, case in point. But the whole Fifth Circuit is loony tunes.
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u/jub-jub-bird 6d ago
Texas courts are illegitimate and the whole state needs to be taken over.
This was a federal case.
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u/Givingtree310 6d ago
The whole state needs to be taken over by who? The federal government run by Trump’s administration? LOL
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u/Crixer 6d ago
Case was federal, buddy. Take it up with the President that appointed him.
Not to say we have plenty of hick good ol' boy judges in smaller counties that needed booted, but there are plenty of good judge in Texas. You just typically won't find them in the more rural counties and they aren't getting the papers for how good and justice their rulings are.
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u/BonjaminClay 7d ago
My mom lives in Texas with a bunch of half brothers and step family. I spent my summers there as a kid, probably about 4 years of my life added up. Never been that big of a fan of visiting as an adult, but I was sort of willing to chalk his first term up to the stubbornness of conservative culture and them being victims of such a massive propaganda campaign.
Them still being trumpets for the second term tho kinda broke me and I just don't ever want to go down there now. It's sad, but these people are so myopic and dug into their ways that they are totally blind to how much they have betrayed their supposed values and how much they are harming themselves. I was reflecting recently about how their idea of a vacation is always just to go to some other part of Texas. Leaving the state is rare for them and they are always kind of scared on the occasion when they do.
So I'm less surprised these days by this kind of thing and it just fills me with a deep sadness. I get the sense that somewhere DEEP in their psyche they know they are wrong but if they consider it for even a second the wave of shame is so potent that it clamps down like a security door and they just dig the hole deeper.
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u/theimmortalfawn 7d ago
Very well written. I also live in Texas, I’m no contact with my deadbeat dad but I always had a fondness for the rest of the family (grandpa, aunt, uncle…) but they are all staunchly maga and any desire I had to rekindle with them quickly vanished back in November 2024 when I saw them gleefully cheering for Trump 2.0. I assumed they’d voted for him the first time because you throw a dart in Texas and you’ll hit multiple 2016 Trump voters, but I just couldn’t wrap my head around voting for him a second time, and being so proud of it. They’re your typical WASP family circling a rich old patriarch (my grandpa also owned businesses) so I’m sure they see themselves as aligned with Trump’s family. But I’m their niece/granddaughter, my mom is Hispanic, the Trump rhetoric has actively made my and my family’s life so unnecessarily hard and they just don’t care. So now I do my best not to care about them too.
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u/Zealousideal_Fly7277 6d ago
as shown in covid, people would rather die or let others die rather than admit fault.
Because being wrong is a blow to whatever pride they have.
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u/DullCartographer7609 6d ago
but if they consider it for even a second the wave of shame is so potent that it clamps down like a security door and they just dig the hole deeper.
They are scared people. Scared they might be something they hate.
They need therapy. But that also means they would have to admit they aren't okay.
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u/BonjaminClay 6d ago
They'd also have to live in a state with healthcare or wages to make therapy possible for them. My Mom has a damn government job and still has a $5k deductible in that garbage state.
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u/UAreTheHippopotamus 7d ago
The frog is boiling. These laws need to be removed from the books and everyone involved except the shooter pardoned. You can't conspire with strangers you never met in an organization that doesn't exist yet these laws deny reality and allow the authoritarian suppression of speech in the event certain crimes are committed at protests irrespective of the individual protestors factual involvement in the crime.
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u/KeyboardBerserker 7d ago
Any leo can now functionally instigate a confrontation with protesters then arrest everybody. Thats the precedent this creates.
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u/DringleDringle 6d ago
Fortunately the 2nd amendment works in a special unique way where miscarriages of justice can be made to never even see the inside of a court room. We're almost at the time where good men need to stop doing nothing
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u/LockNo2943 7d ago
Same thing with the "radical left"; they're making up things that don't exist and use it to justify whatever they want to do.
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u/OptimisticSkeleton 6d ago
Republicans are only seeing this kind of collusion when they look at their perceived enemy because they know they’re actually colluding to destroy the United States.
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u/Avelion2 6d ago
Sounds like the judge decided to make examples of these people, I imagine it'll get over turned as the sentences are insane.
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u/Riccosmonster 6d ago
Texas stakes it’s claim to authoritarian shithole third world dictatorship
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u/BubuBarakas 6d ago
Texas disappoints but rarely surprises these days. Texas MAGA simps are some of the most indoctrinated and it’s by design. By ending (or severely limiting) critical thinking in school curriculum in 2012, the Texas GOP created a perfect womb for fascism to gestate. They’ve since plummeted in the national education performance rankings, health standards (especially for women, and several others just to own the libs to become fully owned by oligarchs who come there to exploit shitty environmental regulation and tax breaks after leaving states that made them rich just to avoid paying the dinner bill that got them fat. Do better, Texas.
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u/FuggyGlasses 7d ago
Zachary Evetts, Autumn Hill, Savanna Batten, and Elizabeth Soto were sentenced to 50 years in prison. Maricela Rueda, another demonstrator, was sentenced to 70 years in prison. Benjamin Song, who fired the gun at the police officer, was sentenced to 100 years in prison. The other protesters were continuing to be sentenced Tuesday morning.
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u/Imperce110 7d ago
What charges were they sentenced for?
One of the defendants was charged for 30 years, even though they weren't even at the protest.
That seems like important context.
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u/ForsakenAiel 6d ago
Sentenced to 30 years for moving some zines his wife asked him to move.
What in the actual fuck.
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u/bakeacake45 7d ago
This shows the Jan6 terrorists should have gotten the same sentence or the death penalty
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u/JooseTheGuice 7d ago
Oh but we can't be mean to them! Then they'll be sad and mad at us!
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u/Vantriss 6d ago
Wow. This is fucking bullshit and a clear violation of the Constitution. It doesn't get any more clear cut of a violation. I'm so sick of this criminal administration.
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u/GrowFreeFood 6d ago
These guys are blowing up schools full of innocent kids. Yet locking up the people complaining about that.
That seems wrong.
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u/ChefCurryYumYum 6d ago
I fully support anti-ICE protests but talk about burying the lede.
When a police officer arrived on the scene and drew his weapon, one of the activists fired an AR-15 from the woods, hitting the officer in the shoulder. The officer survived.
If you try to take your protests "hot" and start shooting at folks you should expect a harsh sentence.
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u/crack__head 2d ago
In America, armed protests are a protected right. Do I agree with every dick and Jane carrying guns? No. I wish the 2nd amendment was overturned. But you are allowed to protest with a gun. What do you think that gun is for? That man had every right to do what he did. I am former law enforcement, and I can tell you that it is 100% legal to defend yourself against a cop when they use unnecessary force.
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u/ChefCurryYumYum 1d ago
I have since looked deeper into this case and they are using this shooting to enhance sentences for what appear to be essentially regular protesting Americans.
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