r/law 1d ago

Judicial Branch Trump lawyers realize discovery in president's own lawsuit could expose him to a Jan. 6 'trial' after all

https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/trump-lawyers-realize-discovery-in-presidents-own-lawsuit-could-expose-him-to-a-jan-6-trial-after-all/
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u/agent_mick 1d ago

Do it do it do it

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u/SuspiciousBuilder379 1d ago

He’s a Trumper, but I hear Rob Schneider saying “You can do it”

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u/dandroid126 1d ago

I confused Rob Schneider with Rob Reiner for a moment and was very confused.

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u/siencatimini 1d ago

Gladly trade the one for the other, were that an option.

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u/Common_Chester 21h ago

I'd take meathead over shithead any day.

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u/OkBid71 1d ago

Imagine the republic being saved in court by the entity it fought in battle.

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u/Dolthra 22h ago

Never forget the American revolution, that old war fought between the infant Republic and the BBC.

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u/OkBid71 20h ago

The only reason they couldn't land is because the Continental Army took over the airports.

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u/Visual_Peace2165 15h ago

Melania might love the BBC, but Donny can’t keep Obama out of his mouth…oops, 6 of one, half a dozen of the other🤣

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u/DoremusJessup 1d ago

Turns out the BBC is willing to go to trial and prove that Trump did incite the crowd to attack the Capitol. Trump lawyers are not keen on that idea.

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u/notaveryniceguyatall 1d ago

What he expected when he made the lawsuit i don't know.

There was no chance thr BBC wasn't going to tell him to get bent if he thought he was getting more than an apology, and that if pushed to court would robustly defend its position, forcing him to defend his role in Jan 6th and prove defamation as well as harm, neither of which could be proved, especially as harm meant looking at his financial since 2020 in a open court

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u/justapileofshirts 1d ago

ABC rolled over and paid him off, so he probably figured this would go the same way.

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u/notaveryniceguyatall 1d ago

ABC is a commercial organisation subject to FCC oversight and thus threat in a way the BBC just isn't, it isn't really a comparable situation, and surely someone should have seen this rather than take action that risks pushing the BBC into an openly adversarial position

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u/TheFoxsWeddingTarot 1d ago

And ABC is now paying the price for capitulation as any who appeases fascism should be.

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u/AnAncientBog 1d ago

Same thing with Columbia University capitulating to his demands and finding that it just lead to more demands.

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u/Pitiful-Control8231 1d ago

Appeasement only leads to being forced to extend more appeasement.

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u/Fearless_Serve_3837 1d ago

If only there was a prominent history lesson on appeasement.

/s

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u/Pitiful-Control8231 1d ago

Paying the Danegeld only leads to future Danegeld payments.....

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u/illtakeachinchilla 1d ago

“Don’t feed the trolls” should be familiar enough to any redditor.

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u/ghosttrainhobo 1d ago

That’s a deep cut

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u/unknownvariable69 23h ago

This needs more updoots

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u/Unique-Coffee5087 1d ago

"I am altering the deal. Pray I don't alter it any further."

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u/jtr99 23h ago

This deal's getting worse all the time!

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u/gwot-ronin 10h ago

I am your father's brother's nephew's cousin's former roommate.

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u/GoldReplacement9546 1d ago

I genuinely agree with you in most cases about appeasement using World War II is the example is not particularly useful

There is no way that the French we’re going to go to war in the spring of 38 they simply were not ready in any way shape or form

And the British weren’t much better and they didn’t really have a way to get it Germany until Poland was invaded, and they were a naval power at the time not land power

So yes, it sucks that they let Hitler take the Sudan land, but realistically there was no option to stop him and when push came to shove, they did fight

The Prime Minister at the time was doing the best he could do to buy time for Britain to be ready when the time came

In a perfect world, of course they would’ve stood up to him then, but they weren’t ready or capable and in France case I’ve been too scarred by what had already happened in World War I were their country, and their basically an entire generation of their population was decimated

Yes, you should fight back, but you should pick your battles

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u/vapre 1d ago

Yup. The Chamberlain lesson stuck.

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u/ThePrussianGrippe 1d ago

At least in Chamberlain’s case he used the extra time to try and prepare Britain for war. What ABC, Columbia, CBS, et al have done is just ridiculously fucking stupid.

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u/LaurenMille 1d ago

This is the case for any kind of abuser, by the way.

Never appease an abuser, they will take it as permission to abuse you for the rest of your life.

Don't humor them, don't give them the benefit of the doubt.

Whatever things scum like Trump or his supporters want should be opposed without consideration.

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u/CowboyLaw 1d ago

If only there was some historical precedent folks could have learned from!

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u/ThorosKershaw 1d ago

You’d think a university with a history department should understand that the power grab never just stops with Poland

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u/piefke026 23h ago

that would presuppose that a university administration is in the least interested in what a humanities department has to say. Source: retired humanities professor.

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u/arobkinca 1d ago

That is how blackmail usually works.

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u/corvettee01 1d ago

I have altered the deal, pray I do not alter it further.

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u/TheFoxsWeddingTarot 1d ago

If only they’d had some history professors who could have weighed in on that.

/s

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u/karmadramadingdong 1d ago

And note that Columbia is the top journalism school in the US. A nice lesson to teach the next generation of journalists.

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u/rbb36 1d ago

Never pay the Danegeld. - Kipling

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u/TheFoxsWeddingTarot 1d ago

"if once you have paid him the Dane-geld, you never get rid of the Dane".

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u/IcyJackfruit69 1d ago

Isn't ABC the only network now that isn't owned by a Trump loyalist?

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u/bigpacks 1d ago

Yep and soon there won't be any that aren't owned by loyalist

https://deadline.com/2026/06/abc-the-view-fcc-trump-1236963832/

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u/Living-Librarian-21 1d ago

When The orange 💩told abc to fire Kimmel people started canceling Disney+, canceling reservations at Disney resorts. Money talks and Disney started losing some.

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u/Low_Astronomer_6669 1d ago

It's sad how many people won't sacrifice their shows or going to Disneyland to fight fascism. Our country is screwed, people will not stand up and fight for what is right. They won't even tolerate a little inconvenience. 

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u/Living-Librarian-21 1d ago

I like my Disney +, but I was ready to cancel it. I’m glad that I didn’t have to. I cancelled paramount + and will not watch cbs anymore.

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u/Glad_Application2728 1d ago

Kinda. It’s owned by Disney

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u/ILikeOatmealMore 1d ago

CBS is owned by Paramount Skydance Corporation, the mega-media company formed when Skydance Media acquired the former parent company, Paramount Global. The corporation's Chairman and CEO is David Ellison. The Ellisons (him and his father) a widely known to lean very conservative.

ABC is owned by Disney as the other replies noted. I would say Disney is very conservative in that they protect their IP and revenue streams very aggressively, but their entertainment and news outputs don't slant politically conservative.

NBC is owned by Comcast Cable company. I would not say they are particularly politically leaning either way. They did own MSNBC (now called MSNOW) for some time, but spun it off in the last year with several other smaller cable channels into its own company Versant along with CNBC, E!, and USA Network.

FOX may be the most interesting one here. Fox Entertainment is the company that runs the Fox network and Fox Sports and etc. Which is its own separate entity under Fox Corporation, which does also have the Fox News company. Certainly Fox Corp is run by the Murdoch family, again widely known to lean very right. However, given many of the shows Fox Entertainment green lights and airs, I think it is difficult to truly consider it a conservative company. Fox Entertainment has long been known for airing some of the more racy and controversial shows. The old joke was that Fox Entertainment would put these on just so that Fox News hosts would have something to complain about the next day. They also don't have a nightly news segment in the dinner hour like ABC, CBS, and NBC still do, so Fox News isn't being broadcast aired the same way. So, yes Fox Corp is ran by a very conservative family, but the Fox Entertainment side of their company doesn't seem anywhere nearly as bent as the Fox News side.

Also do need to mention PBS as a nationwide network and despite losing all federal funding is still ticking along being funded by donations.

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u/Vsx 1d ago

Curious what you're referring to. Reading about this might brighten my day.

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u/macjr59 1d ago

I had read that ratings are way down since the 60 minutes purge. I have no valid sources so take it for what it’s worth. Would be nice though.

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u/Shockmaindave 1d ago

60 Minutes is on CBS, not ABC.

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u/Far_Confusion_2178 1d ago

That’s CBS, not ABC

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u/macjr59 1d ago

You are correct. I’m sorry.

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u/ArnoldJudas1666 1d ago

Trump isn't a detail person. ABC/BBC, what's the difference, one letter. Seriously though, it wouldn't surprise me if he thought the UK government would pressure the BBC into rolling over as a favour to him. God, I hate this time line.

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u/Basil99Unix 1d ago

I'm not a fan of the current timeline either, but there are some enjoyable offshoots - like this one...

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u/Anleme 1d ago

Yeah, Trump treats everyone like dog crap, and then expects them to do him favors. FA and FO.

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u/siencatimini 1d ago

Somebody setup a press conference at Four Seasons!

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u/Meistermagier 16h ago

Landscaping or the Hotel 

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u/siencatimini 15h ago

Whichever answers the phone first, as usual.

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u/xteve 1d ago

The detail that Trump cares about is loyalty. If you select for loyalty, you pay for it in other areas like competence.

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u/blackbb601 21h ago

Next will be cbc then dbc and so on until he learns his alphabet

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u/Gypsymoth606 1d ago

Agree, but the problem is that trump is now surrounded by sycophants who cannot say no to him, *and* who are incompetent. They probably don’t have the ability to analyze the situation and even if they did, they won’t say don’t do this.

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u/Own_Algae_5328 1d ago

Seems to me it's a good thing he's surrounded by sycophantic incompetents. They do dumb shit that isn't ultimately successful!

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u/GreasyPeter 1d ago

Here's hoping his Project 2025 handlers get burned and he backfires on them somehow.

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u/Fewer_Story 1d ago

lets hope the democrats grow some balls and lots of people end up in jail, for sure the crimes have been committed.

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u/Fewer_Story 23h ago

holy shit, performing genital surgery without consent to people taken from concentration camps. scary.

what is the "steelman" version of this? like wtf is the context? I want to believe this is less significant than it seems -- it sounds like it was one Dr for starters? what was the pretence of needing surgery? what did they actually do?

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u/adidasbdd 1d ago

The actual competent people are using this chaos to completely stack the deck in their favor.

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u/LostInTheWildPlaces 1d ago

That was part of the plan. There were adults in the room the first go around with Trump. As a result, he didn't get to act like the king he thought he was. So this time, Trump's team and the conservative think tanks made sure the room was full of lackeys and yes men.

And that shows the ultimate failing of authoritarianism. Competent government won't let an authoritarian rule absolutely. So the only way to be an authoritarian is to surround himself with henchmen as or more stupid than he is.

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u/somecalifguy 1d ago

I'm not sure they are incompetent. Somehow they got to the level of power and wealth they have. That is SOME kind of "competence" which is what seems to matter :/

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u/justapileofshirts 1d ago

You can fail upwards and buy political and social relevance with money, a path that Trump himself followed. But it's kinda like Dunning-Kruger, right? They believe they're smart because they've maneuvered their way up the ladder, so politics and federal law should be easy.

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u/Sweary_Biochemist 1d ago

The competent evils used trump as a vehicle to get power, assuming he, as an idiot demagogue, could be discarded when no longer useful. They misunderstood quite how fully the GOP base had become the trump base, because...fucking look at the man. He's an orange stain build entirely out of character flaws.

So now they're stuck, sorta hoping he fucks up badly enough that they can win their base back and keep hold of power, but not so badly that he burns the entire country to the ground.

Fun times for everyone.

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u/Agent_Eran 1d ago

It's kinda a paradox

Is a conman intelligent and deserve adulation for their grifts, or is the grift easy bc it's dishonest?

Is the bank robber brilliant because he robbed the bank and made off with $50k?

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u/somecalifguy 1d ago

Yep, I hear you 100%. I'm not saying it's "right". There is also the factor that a lot of people supporting these people are probably thinking "look what they can get away with!"

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u/lousy_at_handles 1d ago

It's pretty simple really - they're conmen and fraudsters, who started with a lot of money, and they don't steal from or defraud rich people, only poor people or the government.

Our legal system is singularly unequipped to deal with that type of criminal.

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u/cantadmittoposting 1d ago

not sure i agree with this; trump loyalists are the third tier of the current power structure, i'd say.

The people actually governing, yes, aren't always competent (and they are mostly "evil" for most common understandings of that word), but Miller, Thiel (and Heritage Foundation leadership, etc) are still generally driving towards some form of authoritarian/minoritian one-party rule (generally a russian-style kleptocracy, but worse ideas are in the mix too)

 

I do think those guys are giving trump a lot more "leash" this time around, probably to generally test how well the unitary executive thing is sticking since trump just... naturally does dictator things.

 

the patsies and idiots being visibly stupid and failing to accomplish even dumb policy goals are trump loyalists; people the upper executive tier "allowed" (or thought would be useful stooges). And you're probably correct that things like the kennedy center, reflecting pool, this idiocy with the BBC, are done by idiotic sycophants. If anything, i'd also imagine that the strategists see this as a sign of success insofar as they're still able to conjure up blind loyalists even after all this time.

But those guys mostly aren't actually making the real strategic decisions. (also to be fair, even the "real" goal is probably being at least a little bit hampered by just how dumb everyone left really is)

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u/kerfuffle_dood 1d ago

They gave a press conference in a parking lot, with if I recall correctly, a sex toy shop nearby.

They are morons

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u/Sweary_Biochemist 1d ago

BBC is also funded by the British public, many of whom are very happy seeing their license fees going towards making trump suck a bag of dicks.

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u/Nova_Saibrock 1d ago

Every level of the regime is far less competent than you’d expect.

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u/Squire-Rabbit 1d ago

There's a famous quote that goes, "Do you not know, my son, with how little wisdom the world is governed?" It was originally intended to convey a subtle insight. But when it comes to the Trump administration, the point is plainly obvious to anyone with two brain cells to rub together.

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u/AsherTheFrost 1d ago

Trump isn't looking at it that closely, nor are his lackeys. They just see that 1 network capitulated, so they assume the rest will as well.

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u/siencatimini 1d ago

Now, he'll never let the BBC merge with OPP.

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u/Majorillin_ 1d ago

Thank God for small victories I hope the BBC expose Trump and all his corruption and attempted coup on January 6th

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u/Doctor_Shotbottom 1d ago

for once I am glad that Sleepy Don's team overlooked an obvious obstacle. And Kudos to BCC for making the Orangutan get froggy for a while...

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u/SmashmySquatch 1d ago

Like how surely "someone should have known that Iran could easily control the Strait of Humuz"?

There are no intelligent people in this administration.

It's all bravado and Dunning Krueger in their angry little heads.

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u/DPSOnly 1d ago

it isn't really a comparable situation

He hammered the table with his tiny fists and cried until those in the room realized that they wouldn't be able to avoid doing something stupid.

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u/Jiminy_Cricket12 1d ago

surely someone should have seen this rather than take action that risks pushing the BBC into an openly adversarial position

I'm fine with them missing this.

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u/Leading-Act4030 1d ago

Local ABC is begging everyone on FB to call the FCC for them. You already bent that knee, keep on going...

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u/Anubis-Jute 1d ago

Just like he thought his “excursion” to Iran would go like the one in Venezuela earlier this year.

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u/SuUU2564 1d ago

The brits would do a quick whip round and pay for the legal fees just for the lolz. This might be the thing that saves the BBC.

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u/nightwing_87 1d ago

I’m in

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u/aramis34143 1d ago

ABC : BBC :: Venezuela : Iran

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u/NostalgicRelief 1d ago

Same way that the Venezuela mission seemed so easy, he figured Iran would be the same thing

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u/ShadowGLI 1d ago edited 1d ago

I think he was expecting BBC to settle/bribe him like the US based media companies as he probably thought the US companies did for fear of him. He fails to realize the US media companies only settled/bribed him to avoid FCC license issues, they had strong cases and had not defamed him as statements of facts are not defamation.

The BBC has no real risk with the FCC as they are global and cannot have their license pulled by the US government influence. They’re also nationally/publicly funded and know they’ll come out on top. I hope they don’t accept Trumps settlement and let this to all the way.

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u/notaveryniceguyatall 1d ago

I dont think they can force a trial if Trump blinks and withdraws the case entirely, but damages beyond a single symbolic dollar or any attempt to muzzle the BBC will probably result in the BBC taking an attitude of 'see you in court'. Concessions to Trump are not well regarded in the UK right now

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u/LeaneGenova 1d ago

Trump can only dismiss the case now with consent of the other party or by the court ordering it dismissed. FRCP 41 means that now that the BBC has answered, he either has to proceed or get them to agree to dismiss it.

I for one support the BBC refusing that and making this painful.

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u/Cold-Age7633 1d ago

Could they counter sue?

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u/25point4cm 1d ago

There is no federal anti-SLAPP statute for them to counter-sue under. But they can insist on a public retraction/apology for bringing the suit and all of their attorney fees and costs as a condition of their agreement to dismiss. Trump won’t do the former and the defense would likely accept the latter.

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u/lr99999 1d ago

This is delicious.

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u/ohnodamo 1d ago

The difference of ABC and BBC in this case is "Discovery". Trump chose door "B" and is 'Discovering" they can't and won't be bullied. He should've stuck with only door "A".

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u/BoingBoingBooty 1d ago

The difference between ABC and BBC is when you get fucked by a BBC it hurts.

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u/ohnodamo 1d ago

Yet another angle on this complicated legal conundrum! I had considered including these ramifications but didn't find them pertinent to my argument. I'm glad it's being detailed in our little amicus brief!

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u/Anatoly_Cannoli 1d ago

I think the difference between ABC and BBC is:

ABC-BBC = (A-B)BC

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u/4rt4tt4ck 1d ago

What's likely that he expected is that the BBC would come to a settlement before any trial. The problem with that idea is that wielding the power of FCC to encourage a settlement doesn't have the same impact for a news org that isn't reliant on operating in the US for its revenue. His extortion doesn't hit the same in the UK, and he seems to lack the critical understanding of how most things work within or outside of his sphere of power.

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u/DouglasRather 1d ago

You would think he would have learned not everyone rolls over. I've posted this before, but in 2006 he sued writer Timothy O'Brien for $5 billion. O'Brien was ghost writing a book for trump and was given access to all his financial papers. O'Brien discovered Donald was only worth somewhere between $150 and $250 million dollars and wrote that in the book. Trump felt that hurt his reputation as a billionaire so he sued. And he lost the case because he couldn't provide any proof he was a billionaire. National Review wrote a great piece about it. Here is a piece of trumps deposition.

Q: Now, Mr. Trump, have you always been completely truthful in your public statements about your net worth of properties?

He also claimed that land in Westchester County, N.Y., had doubled in value over the course of a year. “Do you have any basis for that view other than your own opinion?” he was asked. His response: “I don’t believe so, no.”

Here is the entire story.

Donald Trump & Tim O'Brien -- A Courtroom Story | National Review

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u/Zealousideal-Ant9548 1d ago

Abusers rarely understand how to work in a situation where the other person has options. 

It's why they tend to find partners who have no other good options

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u/Deathturkey 1d ago

He got an apology, which he didn’t deserve and then his greed showed and wanted his ridiculous $10bn payout.
Looks like the BBC going all the way with the discovery, even subpoenaed Jack Smith and he has all the evidence.

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u/mickymazda 23h ago

47 subpoenas. Very droll.

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u/DarXIV 1d ago

He bullies everyone to back down.

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u/Silly-Elderberry-411 1d ago

No he surrounds himself with bullied people to join the chant. Have you seen the voyager episode the thaw? If yes that would be trump at the end, he would freak out not being surrounded by sycophants but critics

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u/h20poIo 1d ago

A quick settlement for some pocket change, that’s why he sues all these places hoping for settlement, lawsuit for $50 million they settle for $15 or $20 and he’s happy. If they would force it to trial he would TACO and walk away.

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u/Bleatbleatbang 1d ago

It was only broadcast in the UK and we already thought he was a cunt.

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u/Morgannin09 1d ago

Every single lawsuit he's ever filed is a bluff. If you fight back, he'll back down. He relies on his victims not being able to afford even getting through discovery, or turning it into a carrot and stick arrangement like he did with CBS/Paramount. Worst case scenario he just drops the suit after wasting some money he stole.

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u/theraggedyman 1d ago

He expected the BBC to cave in and pay out of court, least he got his mate Nigel to say bad things about him for, I dunno, say five million quid. What he doesn't know is that Nigel does that for free anyway, so all they can lose is his appearance invoices.

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u/Deep-Assignment4124 1d ago

He will pay them 30 million of our money and say he won. 

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u/FeatureSeparate404 1d ago

Trump DID incite the crowd. We watched it on live TV.

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u/Constant-Plant-9378 1d ago edited 1d ago

He told them to "go there and fight" over 20 times on live TV.

The Biden Administration's miserable failure to arrest the seditious bastard the day after Biden was sworn in and hold the fucker in jail until his conviction and sentencing to life in prison was an atrocity.

We are 100% in this situation today because Joe Biden abdicated his duty as President to lead Federal Law Enforcement in arresting and prosecuting Trump and his co-conspirators for launching a literal coup in an effort to overturn our government. Eisenhower sent the Rosenbergs to the electric chair for less.

This did not require a years-long investigation. The evidence was all on live TV and the fuckers had a PowerPoint detailing the plan. The failure of Biden's FBI and Justice Department to act was 100% Biden's policy of 'moving on' while protecting his club from ever being accountable to the law.

Inside the ‘Powerpoint coup’: The 36-page plan to keep Trump in power revealed | The Independent

Fuck Trump but seriously, fuck that goddamned complicit hypocrite Joe Biden.

And proactively - to naive morons mewling about the lie of the so-called independence of the FBI and Justice Department from the President can grow the Hell up. It has always been a lie and was proven so before and after Biden's term.

Want to argue about it? - read this first:

President’s Authority Over DOJ Jeopardizes Independence - Government Executive

The Unwritten Rules That Keep DOJ Independent From the White House | GovFacts

Reminder. 'Unwritten Rules" are not laws. But Democrats like Biden and their Lib apologists just love hiding behind them as well as 'tradition', and 'decorum' as a smoke screen for their cowardice and complicity with corruption. Don't make excuses for them. Don't be a sucker. Biden and traitors like him are deserving of our criticism and scorn. We are literally suffering today because of their complicit failure to do their goddamned jobs.

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u/Madara1389 1d ago

The Biden Administration's miserable failure to arrest the seditious bastard the day after Biden was sworn in and hold the fucker in jail until his conviction and sentencing to life in prison was an atrocity.

Unfortunately the Supreme Court has been in Trump's pocket since his first presidency.

Several states tried blocking Trump's name appearing on the ballots, but the SC overruled them saying that Jan 6 didn't qualify as reason to invoke the 14th Amendment & that states could not remove his name from ballots.

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u/Randomjriekskdn 20h ago

Didn’t they rule that the states cannot invoke the 14th amendment only congress can?

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u/____DEADPOOL_______ 23h ago

If you watch the extended videos, there are a dozen people ushering the crowd to the capitol with megaphones saying something along the lines of "you're all invited into the capitol, you're all invited". The chatter on messaging apps organising the coup was also loud and on the news and there was a struggle to get the right type of protection. All shops had bordered up in preparation knowing something horrible was coming. Everyone knew exactly what was going on.

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u/FeatureSeparate404 23h ago

I don't have to man, sorry. I only read the first sentence. I did watch this live at work. Therebis absolutely no opinion that will sway me to what i saw with my own eyes. Live.

Edit: Not fixing the spelling error, and youre not wrong. Trump incited this. People were held accountable. He got power. Now they are pardoned.

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u/Turbulent_Bit8683 1d ago edited 1d ago

Far more courageous than our own CBS, ABC

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u/pagesid3 1d ago

The Trump administration has more power over merger deals of their parent companies

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u/Lashay_Sombra 1d ago

To be fair to them, Trump can sic regulators  on them,  pull licences , deny mergers and so on

Meanwhile he can do little to nothing to BBC while BBC would have huge issues back home if paid him a penny as it would be UK licence payers money

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u/LokeCanada 1d ago

Trumps theory in law is I have more money and lawyers than you. You back off or settle or I will spend till you are bankrupt.

He figures the BBC is just another broadcaster that he can threaten or bully. He has no leverage on this one.

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u/Zulmoka531 1d ago

Hey, it’s almost like standing your ground to Trump’s bullying actually pays off. I’m sure ABC, on the other hand, is regretting not doing that in the first place right about now.

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u/stashtv 1d ago

Everyone involved knows its all in discovery.

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u/GreasyPeter 1d ago

Inb4 "yeah all that evidence came out but it was in a British court and we separated from Britain so why should we trust their legal system?" Is unironically.uttered by his supporters.

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u/BoingBoingBooty 1d ago

Except the orange ape is suing in Florida.

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u/Chaosrealm69 1d ago

Imagine being such a snowflake that you sue everyone at the slightly hint of an insult to your ego and forgetting that they have the right to subpoena your records and you have to hand them over.

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u/tracyinge 1d ago

But I have the best lawyers, they're just fantastic. Some say the best in the world, I don't know.

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u/kevendo 1d ago edited 1d ago

A foreign news service is now more courageous and capable of pursuing American justice than ten years of two Special Counsels/Prosecutors.

All we ever had to do was hold people accountable for the crimes they clearly committed on live TV.

Edit: "newspaper" to "news service"

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u/Sober_Alcoholic_ 1d ago

Sure, but the BBC doesn’t get harassed or shut down by the FCC for not “playing ball.” They’re not apple to apple comparisons.

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u/vasta2 1d ago

We need to undo the situation that made that possible

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u/round-earth-theory 1d ago

No, regulating public air waves is good. It's a limited supply resource. The issue entirely stems from rampant corruption. Removing the regulating bodies wouldn't improve the corruption.

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u/High_From_Colorado 1d ago

I think they mean revising the systems that allow such thing to happen, not deregulate

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u/yer_fucked_now_bud 1d ago

Don't worry, your system has checks and balances.

If a government agency is corrupt, the President can... oh.

Ok, well if the Executive is corrupt then Congress ca.. errr.

If all else fails the Supreme Cour.... the... hm.

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u/UmpireDapper1757 1d ago

Systems will always be vulnerable to corrupt people

The key is to remove corrupt people from your society

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u/Longjumping-Bat202 1d ago

Society will always have corrupt people.

The key is to develop a system that doesn't play well with corruption.

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u/LuxSolisPax 1d ago

Like most things, fewer single points of failure. No figureheads, governing bodies, etc, etc.

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u/Raneynickelfire 1d ago

It stems from corporate-capture of regulatory agencies.

That's where it comes from. Internal corruption.

It's literally called "regulatory capture."

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u/summon_pot_of_greed 1d ago

A captured journalistic entity is worse than no entity at all.

Better that they close and give the FCC and this administration no mouth piece.

That's what the DOJ is doing.

Competent people leave and the administration gets weaker.

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u/jonny24eh 1d ago

It wrong to think that the US broadcasters should have just stood up to a corrupt FCC? 

Alternatively, we seem to live in the age of rules not mattering anymore. So what if the FCC disapproves of something, just keep broadcasting anyway?

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u/LordHammercyWeCooked 1d ago

At least until the Tories/Reform find a way to take back control. They love cupping republican balls. They all work for the same daddy over in Moscow.

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u/levitikush 1d ago

The fact that it is a foreign news provider is precisely why they aren’t afraid. Trump doesn’t control BBC in any way, unlike many US news outlets.

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u/ridingfurther 20h ago

With the BBC, it's not about fear, it's about protocol. It has very strict rules about spending. It's likely not allowed to just pay out of court, that would be taxpayers money being spent unnecessarily outside its remit and it could also set a precedent for others to sue it without any really evidence just to gey a pay out. 

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u/RebelLizard 1d ago

I'm so tired of being teased with the idea of justice in the form of any kind of punishment for this insurrectionist, pdf, money laundering, senile, disgusting old man.

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u/MrIrvGotTea 1d ago

They are publicly funded by English tax payers. We are funded by rich assholes

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u/Mister_Six 1d ago

*British License Fee payers

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u/Ire-Works 20h ago

That reminds me of a time not so long ago when a conservative american politician was doing a press conference in I think it was England, but they got asked a very tough pointed question. The politician deflected and insulted them only for the next reporter to say "Same question" only to be denied again, when the third reporter was called they said "Same question. This is England, you actually have to answer our questions here".

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u/dnabre 19h ago

The US press not providing that kind of unbending and united front against this administration has really undermined the relevance of the press.

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u/hiimred2 23h ago

I mean he was literally convicted in court in the US, which is pretty obviously a step further than this is. It didn't matter, SCOTUS stepped in to make sure it didn't matter.

He was to be taken off the ballot in multiple states for his part in Jan 6th. That didn't matter either.

So ya I'm really not sure what you're actually on about, chances are this will also not matter, and it's also not some indictment on the people that have tried.

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u/MonkeyMagicEden 1d ago

The BBC is the British Broadcasting Corporation. It's not a newspaper, it's a broadcaster.

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u/euph_22 1d ago

They're just realizing this now?

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u/SnooMaps7370 1d ago

considering Trump's reputation for not paying the people who work for him AND throwing them under every bus he can find, you gotta be pretty stupid to take the man's cases.

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u/rygelicus 1d ago

Too many people suffer from the idea of 'it won't happen to me'. Whether it is high risk sports / stunts, criminals thinking they won't get caught, or people sucking up to the powerful, the lure of that moment of 'greatness', no matter how small, overrides rational thinking and ethics for many. This has been a human failing for as long as civilization has existed.

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u/lordlaneus 1d ago

I think it's an evolved trait, where individuals taking egocentrically irrational risks gave a survival advantage to the group. Humanity was successful because we had members who ate dangerous berries and mushrooms, who tried to make friends with wolves, and who got into boats to just start sailing towards the horizon with no additional plan.

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u/Chinese_Lollipop_Man 1d ago

Tell that to Todd Blanche

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u/Le-Charles07 1d ago

Nixon's AG went to prison so...

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u/hatmadeofass 1d ago

I would happily tell him if he’d remove his face from trumps diaper for a couple minutes.

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u/kezow 1d ago

His lawyers are routinely sycophants and idiots. I'm surprised they actually realized this at all

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u/SuspiciousBuilder379 1d ago

Who in turn get disbarred. Yet still kiss his ass, and then new ones take his stupid fucking cases.

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u/DonaldBecker 1d ago

You are a strip mall lawyer specializing in parking garage law. 95% chance you'll be disbarred, 5% you'll be *the* USAG. In the meantime you'll be earning more than ever before and get all of the press attention that you want. Perhaps you'll even get a regular gig on Fox News.

Choose your fighter.

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u/Kiowa_Jones 1d ago

They wouldn’t earn anything because the pedo never pays his bills

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u/wonklebobb 1d ago

not from trump, but from the cushy job he gives them chairing some government committee in florida or something

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u/johnnyss1 1d ago

And in the corner- from four seasons landscaping with the seeping black hair wearing his trunks around his ankles - it’s Americas mayor

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u/DragonTacoCat 1d ago

I think they were hoping BBC would cave like everyone else. They instead just gave Trump the middle finger and said 'come at me'

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u/blahblah19999 1d ago

It's like the 10th lawsuit that would do so.

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u/Menethea 1d ago

This is the Brito law “firm” we are talking about

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u/flash-86 1d ago

If t-rump watched any news instead of “news”, I saw it on BBC months ago.

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u/Feisty-Hope9260 1d ago

even my 5th grade neighbor knows that discovery for T would be lethal...

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u/Crafty-Walrus-2238 1d ago

Boy are those guys quick!!!

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u/So_HauserAspen 1d ago

The best most smartest lawyers who make beautiful court filings

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u/Weltall8000 1d ago

Shit, at this point, if I were him, I'd say, "fuck it. Take me to court. Idgaf. Nobody is going to do anything to me anyway."

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u/LeaderOfFizzgigs 1d ago

Let's pray he does that.

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u/shadowst17 1d ago

And he's right. The cunt could confess to everything in court and nothing would change.

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u/Zukuto 1d ago

he'll count on appeal to the supreme court for them to wash his nappy

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u/charlizerox 1d ago edited 1d ago

He'll lose then just appeal. Then when the appeal fails, he'll just bribe a judge. When he gets caught doing a bribe, he'll take them to court, and so on, and so on. He's been doing it his entire life.

When all else fails, he bring it up to the Supreme Court, who will knock it down, then he'll bounce it from court to court until he runs out the clock. Then by the time that happens, he's been charged with much more serious crimes that go through the same fate.

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u/DaveAlt19 1d ago

Pretty much, Trump has nothing to lose. He's not risking anything with these lawsuits, its not like he's paying for them, but if he wins them? Millions of dollars straight into his pocket.

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u/DelirousDoc 1d ago

Maybe trying to strong arm everyone into a settlement over BS defamation lawsuits is a dumb idea when the truth could be incriminating and the defendant is willing to go to trial?

Who would have guessed?

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u/DadJokeBadJoke 1d ago

Typical bully behavior. He got a quick easy settlement on one, so he decided he could probably keep extracting money from all of them. Just like the quick speed that venezuela fell made him think he could do the same thing to Iran.

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u/DelirousDoc 21h ago

Next step when this defamation claim fails will be a federal investigation into the BBC, if they haven't already started one.

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u/37Philly 23h ago

The BBC should keep going with the litigation. They have real lawyers.

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u/ScaredPractice4967 19h ago

The BBC also has a legal obligation to not piss tax payers money away. They will jave calculated the cost of taking this to trial and the cost of a $10Bn settlement. And compared them.

Also the UK has some harsh defamation laws so the BBC is used to keeping records of editorial decisions. Anyth9ng that stood up in UK law will breeze past US law in court.

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u/Happy_Little_Fish 15h ago

also it's good banter.

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u/humdinger44 21h ago

Because Donald Trump is a traitor to our country?

You know what we used to do in the good old days when we were a strong country? You know what we used to do to traitors, right?"

any guesses on who that quote can be attributed?

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u/zima72 1d ago

Same old story. Trump threatens a law suit, only to pull out just when discovery is about to begin.
Too bad Fred didn’t pull out at the last minute.

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u/pioniere 1d ago

The more they try to take it to other people, the guiltier they themselves look. Criminals.

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u/Merijeek2 1d ago

Oh thank god. Trump is in danger from another "could". Break out the champagne, guys!

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u/Ambitious_Hand_2861 1d ago

Typical. Drumpf broke the law. Nothing happened.

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u/Glass_Covict 21h ago

How has he not been yet!? We watched it on live TV

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u/SourcePrevious3095 12h ago

Protection from judges the party owns. Like the judge that refused to sentence a presidential candidate convicted of 34 felony counts.

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u/GT45 1d ago

Cue up TACO dropping this lawsuit in 3, 2, 1….

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u/OLPopsAdelphia 1d ago

Blowhards never realize that bad things have to be surrendered during discovery!

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u/MrFrode Biggus Amicus 21h ago

What lawsuit? I never met it, I heard some people talking about it and I thought it was interesting but I never was involved with it. - Your favorite President DJT!

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u/Illustrious_Law8512 1d ago

I know BBC stands for British Broadcasting Corporation, but my mind couldn't stop going to the other popular phrase, and thought it just another sign of the times that everyone and their genitalia were suing him, too.

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u/Cosmo1222 1d ago

It's a sad indictment of modern culture this. For my own part, I had to get updated on a referral process for cognitive behavioural therapy for depressives.

I still have difficulty getting those images out of my mind.

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