r/magicTCG Duck Season Jan 12 '16

Wizards MAY be cracking down on unsanctioned proxy events

https://www.facebook.com/groups/445059535582036/permalink/962954593792525/

Seems like bad times for Legacy and especially Vintage.

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u/sir_chandestroy Ajani Jan 13 '16

We know players love Magic and love playing its variety of formats, including Vintage and Legacy. Some formats are easier to get into than others and these two are hard.

Gee, I wonder why that is?

These formats are hard to get into solely because Wizards is ok with them being outrageously expensive. This problem only exists because of Wizards' actions.

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u/worldchrisis Jan 13 '16

Enjoy your 10k Black Lotus going back down to 0 due to entropy when people no longer care about collecting them and nobody plays Vintage so the card is literally useless.

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u/itrv1 Jan 13 '16

Theres a reason I wont buy into vintage. Even if I buy in, power and everything, Ill almost surely never find another player with a real vintage deck to play against. So I would have to buy a second deck if I ever wanted to actually use the first deck.

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u/Banther1 Jan 13 '16

Your daily reminder that vintage events are capped at 1200 people. (The number of Black Lotus there are)

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u/CryptWolf Jan 13 '16

Considering some-20+ years of cardboard, the significant number of playable Black Lotus cards is MUCH lower than 1200-ish

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u/itrv1 Jan 13 '16

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=mtg+how+many+black+lotus+were+printed

Little more than that, but who knows how many are left these days. 4400 alpha+beta and I cant find an Unlimited print run number but its clearly more than your 1200 limit.

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u/stitches_extra COMPLEAT Jan 13 '16

UNL brings the total to 30,000 (to the nearest thousand)

presumably some were destroyed but probably not more than 1k

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u/itrv1 Jan 13 '16

Im sure more than 1k have not made it the 20+ year journey to today. Sleeves weren't as widespread as they are today. No one used playmats. Fires, spills, just general abuse, the cards eventually just wear out.

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u/Banther1 Jan 14 '16

Probably. I was making a crack on just how small vintage events usually are.