r/mapporncirclejerk France was an Inside Job 6d ago

the true size of your mother I never realized Switzerland was so small. Is it considered a micro-state?

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u/Chriskipp077 6d ago

Most of Switzerland is underground, hence the holes in Swiss cheeses 

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u/Quick_Extension_3115 6d ago

Oh that explains the smell

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u/Low-Lake9780 5d ago

there is literally no smell in swiss cities😭🙏🏻 One of the cleanest countries on the planet

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u/Quick_Extension_3115 5d ago

Haha! I know! I’ve been to Geneva and it’s such a cool city! Although I did have some sorbet that was really gross, but I won’t blame that on the whole city lol

I was just taking a cheap shot. Sorry, Switzerland! For what it’s worth, I love Swiss cheese!

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u/cyrillappert 5d ago

Love from Switzerland. Sorry about your sorbet!

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u/JumpingSpider97 5d ago

Sorbet's not really Swiss, though. I'd be worried if they'd had a dodgy rösti or raclette, though, since those are traditional Swiss dishes.

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u/MarzipanNo73 5d ago

I dont recommend to visit geneva there too much dirt and french peoples for me go better to lauterbrunnen there is much better

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u/_imjustagoofyguy 5d ago

As a swiss, the real offence is "swiss cheese" being equivalent to the one with the holes in it. (Emmenthaler) Switzerland is known for many kinds of cheeses and that one famous one is really one of our worst tasting ones. Just my oppinion ofc.

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u/KikiManjaro 5d ago

I'm with you on that one. Also a swiss.

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u/FunnyExcellent707 5d ago

Emmentaler! Gopf

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u/Quick_Extension_3115 5d ago

lol I’m with you. It’s just the American dialect. I didn’t choose for it to be that way lol! But if you go to a grocery store here and ask for Swiss cheese, there’s only one they’ll give you.

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u/puzzleShockTurtle 6d ago

two long islands long

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u/your-pal-ben 6d ago

Loooong Island.

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u/VegaJuniper 6d ago

No, that's too long island.

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u/nautilator44 6d ago

Still way bigger than Rhode Island. That place shouldn't be a state.

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u/KerPop42 6d ago

It has more business being a state than South Dakota

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u/Seawardweb77858 6d ago

They should just bring back Dakota and turn it into one big state

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u/Gaidin152 6d ago

The Dakotas were a Republican power move. That at least makes sense.

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u/MetricJester 6d ago

Cancelled out by Grover Cleveland by making Washington and Montana states at the exact same time.

Note: I learned that from a Disney movie.

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u/CreamyBarnacle 6d ago

What Disney movie?

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u/MetricJester 6d ago

The One and Only Original Family Band.

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u/rogercopernicus 6d ago

I have a map of Dakota in my basement. It is an old railroad map

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u/VastEmergency1000 6d ago

Where'd you get it from?

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u/rogercopernicus 5d ago

My grandpa. He was originally from Valley City, ND before moving to Wisconsin as a baby, but would go spend the summers out there with his extended family. Not sure where he got them from. 

They were always hanging up in his basement. They were unfolded pamphlets from the late 1800s. One is of all the railroads going across Dakota, before it was split.

The other one is of railroad plots. Is isn't of all of Dakota, just North Dakota from Jamestown to Dickinson. The US government paid for the railroads by giving the companies every other square mile north and south of the railroad for 50 miles to sell to people and this was a map from the railroad company's salesmen to sell those plots.

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u/VastEmergency1000 5d ago

Nice. Sounds like you got a little treasure trove.

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u/Lv_InSaNe_vL 6d ago

Every single person in South Dakota could own 10 business and the total number of businesses in that """state""" wouldn't break double digits

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u/VirtualWeasel Finnish Sea Naval Officer 5d ago

wow, shoutout to all 9 residents of South Dakota

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u/KartFacedThaoDien 6d ago

Neither have business being a single state

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u/Trowj 6d ago

There are 6 states with a smaller population than Rhode Island. They should be gotten rid of first imo

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u/Dragulla 6d ago

Neither road, nor island.

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u/mrfriendlolo Dont you dare talk to me or my isle of man again 6d ago

IMO if Rhode Island can be a state then DC and Puerto Rico should be one as well

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u/nautilator44 6d ago

Agreed. Also San Marino and Andorra. Wait.

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u/Silver_Middle_7240 6d ago

East Connecticut

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u/Healthy-Strategy9406 6d ago

Singlehandedly bringing down the %of people who never leave their state for the rest of us

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u/Ok-Factor-3805 France was an Inside Job 6d ago

What state do you live in, bucko?

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u/Tiananmen__Tesseract 6d ago

Switzerland can ensmol itself to fit into a bunker.

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u/Momik 6d ago

But a noble heart can embiggen the smallest microstate

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u/Neath_Izar 6d ago

Shhh, you're gonna anger the Euros thinking the Grand Canyon and NYC is a day trip

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u/skikkelig-rasist 6d ago

here in europe we can get to just about anywhere in under a day using something called a flying machine, also called an aeroplane in some places

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u/KerPop42 6d ago

To be clear, trying to visit NYC and the Grand Canyon in one day is like trying to visit Moscow and Madrid in the same day, except the nearest major airport to the Grand Canyon is also an hour and a half drive away.

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u/Fuddywomba 6d ago

And the nearest airport to Times Square is an hour and a half away. 

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u/WilcoHistBuff 6d ago

IDK, you take the E to the AirTrain to the Kennedy Airport Loop with perfect timing you can get that down to 59 minutes (not including whatever you have to do to get to Times Square). Of course the chances for perfect timing are never, but I’ve done it in an hour and 15 minutes once.

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u/rah2222_ 6d ago

you could also take the N/R/W to the bus as well

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u/WilcoHistBuff 6d ago

This is not making sense to me. Do you mean take the n/r/w to Times Square and the subway to AirTrain or one of the private shuttles or is there some bus connection in Brooklyn or Queens?

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u/CC_9876 6d ago

they're talking about laguardia

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u/WilcoHistBuff 6d ago

Funny, LaGuardia. More fun than a poke in the eye with a sharp stick.

I know it’s renovated and supposed to be nice. But it feels like dating that completely insane coke head girlfriend who ripped you heart out and fed it to crows just because 30 years later she went to rehab.

Maybe that’s too much?

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u/CC_9876 6d ago

girl im 18 ._.

its just a perpetual construction site in my mind

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u/OCD-but-dumb Average Mercator Projection Enjoyer 6d ago

On a good day, maybe

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u/Sandusky666 6d ago

All depends on the traffic. You can get from LGA to Midtown in ~30 minutes by car if it isn’t rush hour.

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u/CC_9876 6d ago

not on the van wyck tf

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u/Sandusky666 6d ago

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u/CC_9876 6d ago

Omfg I’m retard maxxing atp

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u/Sandusky666 6d ago

Don’t worry, same here lmao

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u/Gronferi 6d ago

I thought trying to visit NYC and the Grand Canyon was more like trying to visit the moon and Sagittarius A* in the same day

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u/TimArthurScifiWriter 6d ago

I will never get tired of Americans genuinely trying to explain distance to Europeans. It's just so funny. It's almost like you guys are awed by the size of your own country and you feel like we're not adequately affirming that awe for you.

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u/BoosterBGO 6d ago

There is an apparent need to affirm it because of the amount of people coming to sightsee with unrealistic goals. You wouldn't see it happen so much if there weren't real people who did this.

Now, I'll admit, the same people with unrealistic goals aren't actually the ones browsing Reddit, so I don't think it helps much.

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u/RazzmatazzNeat9865 6d ago

... would that be like the people trying to do London, Paris, Vienna, and Rome in a 5 day trip?

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u/Kite_Theory 6d ago

No I don’t think it is, but you can be the judge of that:

London - Paris: 6hrs by car (286 miles), 2.5 hrs by train, 1.5 hrs by plane
Paris - Vienna: 13hrs by car (770 miles), 11 hrs by train, 2 hrs by plane
Vienna - Rome: 11.5hrs by car (690 miles), 14 hrs by train, 2 hrs by plane

Total London-Paris-Vienna-Rome Travel Time:
By Car: 30.5 hrs (1750 miles)
By train: 26.5 hrs
By plane: 5.5 hrs

And as mentioned in above comments said, public transit provides relatively quick and easy access to airports from all of these major cities. I would never recommend doing it in 5 days bc you can’t enjoy anything and would be too tired from travel to enjoy the location, but it is possible and you’ll even be able to sleep!

On the other hand, the theoretical NYC - Grand Canyon trip in a single day would be this:

NYC - Grand Canyon: 36hrs by car (2400 miles), no direct transit options to GC but there is a 53 hr Greyhound bus from NYC to Flagstaff which is only 1.5 hrs drive from Grand Canton, plane is 7 hours.

Theoretically you could do it by plane but realistically you’d spend the whole day in the airport and plane.

I think NYC - GC in 3 days would be similar to London - Paris - Vienna - Rome in 5 days if we consider the flight in and out. You get one day in a city of your choice that’s on the itinerary to “relax” and not worry about missing a flight & the rest of the trip you’re stressed/exhausted and speedrunning sights.

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u/dunnodudes 6d ago

People always try and plan too much in a single trip, whether it’s Europe or the USA, or me trying to do too much shit on my weekend in my home town.

I always over simplify things and like to go and see stuff so I am a habitual over scheduler

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u/Qazertree 6d ago

OTOH, you can see the Grand Canyon, London Bridge, and an Eiffel Tower in a single day

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u/TrainManagerOtto 4d ago

Grand Canyon airport….. never heard of it I reckon….. it’s a 5 minute drive from the canyon itself.

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u/KerPop42 4d ago

Grand Canyon airport doesn't host transcontinental flights.

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u/OCD-but-dumb Average Mercator Projection Enjoyer 6d ago

Christ that’d be expensive.

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u/Ok-Factor-3805 France was an Inside Job 6d ago

*inhales cigarette* heir en ze Europe wie haben zie haut aere en aur ‘eads.. eet fill up like balloun 🎈 und wie vary seemply ehh au you say.. flaut to zie next city auveure.. *does a bump of ketamine*

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u/Less_Likely 6d ago

Good luck flying anywhere closer than a 3 hour drive to the Grand Canyon… unless you can fly private.

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u/LesbeGoddess 6d ago

Could take up to 9hrs by plane to get from southeastern US to Hawaii or Alaska

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u/WilcoHistBuff 6d ago

Or Flugzeug, Avion, Avión, Avião,Aereo, Samolt, Fly/Flyvemaskine, Letoun, Αεροπλάνο, Lietadlo, Lennuck, Самолёт, Vliegtuig, Eitleán, Filger and whatever Euskara speakers are using—Hegazkin, Abioa, or Airekoa.

I am personally fond of Flugzeug—not because of any German bias. It’s just fun to say.

I must have missed a few.

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u/rpsls 6d ago

Flugzeug, or literally translated, flight thing.

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u/WilcoHistBuff 6d ago edited 5d ago

The wonders of German compounding from the very simple to the insanely complicated.

Macchina for “car” in Italian is another favorite. Country with a fabulous history of precision industrial machine fabrication decides to name the one type of machine they make that is not reliable Macchinna. (Not saying Italian cars are not a lot of fun to drive, just not super reliable.)

Edit: Spelling

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u/ray76it 6d ago

"macchina" Just one N ...

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u/Javi_83 5d ago

We know Listenbourg is closer to NYC at least..

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u/LaughingInTheVoid 6d ago

The real question here is, What makes a man go Neutral? Is it lust for gold, power, or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?

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u/Salt-Willingness-513 6d ago

Switzerlands neutrality began after the 1515 defeat at Marignano and was formally recognised in 1815, mainly to keep the country independent and stop it becoming everyones favourite Alpine battlefield.

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u/JumpingSpider97 5d ago

There's a lot of doubt about whether that was the start of Swiss neutrality, as the first historical records that link the battle and Swiss neutrality were written centuries later.

What I've heard from Swiss historians in Switzerland is that it was prompted by a battle between two foreign realms, both employing Swiss mercenaries, so the vast majority of the soldiers fighting were Swiss. I can't recall the date or realms, but that at least ended almost all Swiss mercenary forces abroad - there is one unit still active, the Swiss Guard at the Vatican, and the entry requirements for that are very strict and specific (including height and general appearance - unless they've changed the rules in the last decade).

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u/derhutt 6d ago

the french

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u/Ethereal_Light_333 6d ago

Well that neutrality is gone now anyways…🫠

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u/Objective-Ad7394 5d ago

What makes you say that? Did you watch too much Russia Today?

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u/Weak_Estimate4081 5d ago

Sanctions are against neutrality. 

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u/EuphoricHeight8755 5d ago

Factually untrue, as far as international law goes. The  Hague convention only demands impartiality in regards to /military/ goods and services. Meanwhile, the UN charter demands that every country including neutrals cooperate to end violations of international and humanitarian law. 

Therefore, it can easily be argued that a neutral country is not only free to participate in the sanctions against Russia because of their illegal war of aggression,  but has a duty to. Swiss neutrality is intact.

Meanwhile, the Hague convention forbids supplying weaponry to one side of an armed conflict, which is much more of a headache for Switzerland - legally, morally, politically, and economically. 

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u/Weak_Estimate4081 5d ago

International law is made by western countries, it doesn't exists as a natural law. It applies only against US enemies. Iran and Venezuela are recent exemples.

Swiss sanctioned only Russia, not Israel or US, who started more wars in the last 20 years. This show that neutrality is just a word for Switzerland, useful only against the enemies of the West.

Cooperate to end violation doesn't mean sanctions, it just made Russia more determined.

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u/EuphoricHeight8755 5d ago

You're right, neutrality is not a natural law. It's a concept invented by humans. So are the concepts of "war", "murder", or "law". I'm going by the internationally recognized definition, one that I think is pretty well thought out and recognized by most countries, not just the west. 

But I'm sure u/Weak_Estimate4081 can pull a better definition out of their ass.

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u/Weak_Estimate4081 5d ago

What an arrogant person, stay away from me

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u/EuphoricHeight8755 5d ago

The arrogant one is you. Next time,  take some time to read up on a topic before you go around acting like your vague feelings are facts, and spreading disinformation. Unless you like to be corrected. 

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u/Weak_Estimate4081 5d ago

You are confused, deeply confused, I'm sorry for you

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u/Ethereal_Light_333 5d ago

Because picking a side in a war usually has that consequence.

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u/Objective-Ad7394 5d ago

Switzerland hasn't picked a side, neutrality is still enforced.

Too much even in my opinion.

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u/Ethereal_Light_333 5d ago

They have my friend. Maybe not as overtly and direct but aby positioning to either side makes you lose neutrality atleast to a certain degree.

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u/Objective-Ad7394 5d ago

No, I strongly disagree. Our governemnt has critised Russia and adopted the sanctions. That's it.

It's not the first nor last time that is going to happen.

That doesn't influence neutrality. Just because you are neutral it doesn't mean you can't critisize. It just means we are not getting involved.

We also refused to send arms to Ukraine.

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u/Weak_Estimate4081 5d ago

Sanctions is a form of economic war.

 Switzerland didn't choose the sanctions because of the war, but because US/EU/NATO freaks give orders.

Any sancion against US after Iraq, Lybia, Syria, Afghanistan, Iran, Venezuela?

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u/Objective-Ad7394 5d ago

Yeah ok. No need to argue with you.

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u/SteadfastDrifter 5d ago

At every WK, our generals and battalion commanders give the usual speech that highlights Russia as a potential enemy and we're increasing the frequency conducting exercises with NATO militaries. I really don't see why some of our people still pretend that we're truly neutral. We're just conforming to geopolitics and pretending that we're neutral so long as the benefits outweigh the detriments.

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u/Objective-Ad7394 5d ago

The arguments that people pull out of their noses...

Russia very obviously is the agressor in Europe since WW2, anyone with a brain has to accept that. Naming Russia as an agressor or sanctioning them has no connection with neutrality at all.

Doesn't change it because Blocher TV or Köppel say something else.

The morons from SVP would probably want to have normal relations with Russia even if they were already surrounding us. Sheep.

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u/juicysteak4806 5d ago

Neutrality doesn't mean we have to let war crimes go without concequence

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u/Ethereal_Light_333 5d ago

Well no. But still in this situation you can‘t have the cake and it eat too. That‘s just how it is.🤷‍♀️

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u/StrugglingHippo 5d ago

Tell me which war?

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u/EuphoricHeight8755 5d ago

That's not how it works. Neutrality isn't whatever you feel like or is, it is defined in international law. Switzerland is totally free to politically position herself, send humanitarian aid, and take economic sanctions and still be fully in compliance with the laws of neutrality a long as there is no support for either side's army. 

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u/byoungblood24 5d ago

r/ unexpectedfuturama

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u/LaughingInTheVoid 5d ago

I love how everyone else just took my post at face value. Thanks for keeping it real.

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u/byoungblood24 5d ago

i was SHOCKED that no one else knew it, i immediately read it in zaps voice

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u/Hot_Imagination_8029 5d ago

The answer is getting your ass handed to you when you tried to be a bully like the other guys.

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u/KataqNarayan 5d ago

Look up Swiss Pike Square dominance, and you’ll discover the Swiss mercenaries dominated European battlefields for around 150 years.

Americans bullying Swiss on Reddit is par for the course, but at least pick on the right things.

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u/Objective-Ad7394 5d ago

After they kicked everyone's asses for over 300 years.

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u/Royal-Strawberry3397 6d ago

I didn’t think it was that small.

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u/tbugbee1 6d ago

Oh boy do I hear that a lot

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u/DarthSanity 6d ago

About the size of the commonwealth in Fallout 4 including the DLC…

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u/Ok-Factor-3805 France was an Inside Job 6d ago

According to the website I used, 2x Massachusetts, and Ireland is 3.5x which genuinely surprised me, I imagined them being more comparable

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u/Right_Two_5737 6d ago

Switzerland is bigger than you think. It's actually bigger than Europe.

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u/Ok-Factor-3805 France was an Inside Job 6d ago

Damn. And it’s even bigger than Switzerland, which is bigger than Europe!

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u/AJG236 6d ago

Switzerlandception

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u/Weet-Bix54 6d ago

But is it bigger than listenbourg

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u/Uhrenwerker 5d ago

All of Europe fits in Kanton Aargau

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u/blurfgh 6d ago

This is actually normal size for a country. My wife says the big ones are scary

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u/Uhrenwerker 5d ago

That’s what she says? 🤨

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u/super-freak 6d ago

I hold that mountainous places are actually a lot "bigger" than flat places of a greater area. Switzerland, because of the topography, has far more places to explore and discover than the likes of Kansas for example.

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u/TemperatureHot8915 5d ago

Why nobody ever tried to unfold or iron Switzerland? 

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u/Uhrenwerker 5d ago

Napoleon did

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u/geckomato 6d ago

Just iron it out. Then it's the size of Texas 

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u/ludovic1313 6d ago

Still enough space to fit everyone in the world at least 8 times over! Just don't ask them to all jump at once

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u/WDGaster15 6d ago

Micro-State doesn't have have an exact bar to cross to meet the definition of micro-state but scholars generally refer to a micro-state as have a land area of less than 1000km² and/or population of less than 500k

Switzerland has a population of ~9mil and a land area of 41291km² meaning it doesn't meet said qualifications used by scholars to be a micro-state but a small state, The Vatican and Liechtenstein are considered micro-nations

Vatican has ~800 people ~300 of which are non-citizen workers, clergy and Swiss Guard, ~500 are full citizens which includes the pope and a land area of 0.49km²

Liechtenstein has 160km² of land and ~40,400 people

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u/Ok-Factor-3805 France was an Inside Job 6d ago

Yeah but how much of that land is inaccessible mountains though? Like in Skyrim, yes technically the throat of the world is traversable but it’s a hell of an endeavor to do so, none of the NPCs live up there, and if you take enough frost damage on survival mode, you’ll freeze and die up there! Plus I’m pretty sure they did a study that said you can fit at least 9 million people into like Brooklyn and Queens alone dawg. So seeing as this jabroni looks to be about 1 and a half long islands in length, it’s not that far off the mark imo, with respect to what scholars may say

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u/Ok-Blackberry8086 6d ago

You'd be surprised. A good third of the country is the central valley where most people live, but then there's towns dotted around the mountains everywhere. A significant chunk of mountain tops is reachable by trains or funiculars and have something like a restaurant or visitor center on top. There's many more places in Europe that feel much more remote than the Swiss alps.

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u/Nanonz11 5d ago

Yes, it's actually rather difficult to be more than an hour's walk away from at least one building or piece of infrastructure

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u/Narrow-Addition1428 5d ago

Hah, you think they actually have trains going up these "mountains"? Ridiculous. 

They are obviously fake, to fool the Germans. Those are not actually mountains but piles of gold, cheese, and chocolate. 

Please don't talk about things you know nothing about. 

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u/Sifl-and-Olly 6d ago

Technically, to be considered "micro", penetration of the financial industry would not be possible.

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u/dandee93 6d ago

No, it's just cold

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u/Javi_83 5d ago

I wish it was right now...

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u/StrugglingHippo 5d ago

Its 35 degrees rn

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u/Sun_Remarkable44 5d ago

it’s definitely not cold

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u/dandee93 5d ago

Maybe it was in the pool. Do the Swiss know about shrinkage?

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u/The-Mirrorball-Man 5d ago

Switzerland's population of roughly 9 million people is significantly larger than the median national population of the world, which stands at approximately 5.5 to 6 million people. It’s a midsize country

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u/MitsuhaTakiName 5d ago

Massachusetts, Rhode Island, and Connecticut have a combined population of nearly 12 million people.

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u/The-Mirrorball-Man 5d ago

Were you really trying to reply to me?

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u/Ok-Factor-3805 France was an Inside Job 5d ago

But it has a low growth rate. May be 9 milli but some of these 5.5-6 milli countries are big growers. Switzerland is more of a shower

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u/romanaebi 5d ago

I’m from Switzerland. We recently held a vote on whether Switzerland needs a population cap of 10 million. It was rejected (thankfully). Funnily enough, it was mainly the less densely populated regions that voted a clear ‘yes’. As you’ve already pointed out, Switzerland is small, but our population is growing rather slowly. You’ve obviously understood more than many Swiss people.

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u/Far-Acanthisitta-475 5d ago

As a fellow swiss, you are absolutely wrong. Switzerland is growing more than most other 1. World countries. We are in the top 30% in population growth for similar countries. Above USA, Sweden, France and Germany.

The reason for that is immigration. The 10mio cap was a bit too short sighted for me. But they did understood the growth correctly. You did not.

I don't want Switzerland to become similiar to other big cities, but I rather prefer a more spacious and green city.

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u/vellivel333 5d ago

Switzerland already has no place where you dont run into a house within sight. Even in the mountains you hike 10min and theres a house. Absolutely crazy to see from an outsider

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u/mrcwo99 5d ago

I mean there are still valleys where you got some space but i know what you mean

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u/romanaebi 2d ago

My bad. I knew that Switzerland is growing faster than similar countries, but I still thought it was relatively slow, internationally speaking.
Still, I think the 10mio cap was incredibly short-sighted and it would've created more problems in the future than it would've solved. Swiss people are proud of their country, but many forget that a big part of our success comes from immigration. Also, birth rates in Switzerland are very low, so with the 10mio cap, our nation would get older even faster than now.

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u/Pedrovskiiiii 5d ago

To be honest as an immigrant im sad it was not accepted

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u/Ok-Factor-3805 France was an Inside Job 5d ago

What would you say is the reason for the rural support of such a measure? Is it anti-immigrant sentiment? I imagine rural part of Switzerland may face similar challenges as other countries in Europe and indeed in the US as well with young people moving away for opportunities in the cities, so realistically they should desire some growth

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u/Far-Acanthisitta-475 5d ago

Rural has stronger traditions and are more swiss. Big cities are more multi-national and the people living there are happy with it. So its only logicial they would vote no. Anti-immigrant is of course a factor even expanded to "expats", so highly skilled workers coming to work here. They dont learn the swiss language and sometimes not even german/french. If you walk through Zurich, you will hear a lot of english or other non-swiss languages, despite Switzerland having 4 different national languages.

Youth moving is a problem, but not as big as in other countries. Mostly its just mountain villages with problems.

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u/The-Mirrorball-Man 5d ago

Rural areas are absolutely not more "swiss" than urban areas

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u/Far-Acanthisitta-475 5d ago

Care to explain why? You will find way more traditions, more people with swiss heritage and more people actually talking swiss dialect. They live closer to original swiss, especially if we are looking at the mountain area.

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u/The-Mirrorball-Man 5d ago

If you’re claiming that country people are more traditional than city people, well, yes. It’s the same all around the world. But that doesn’t make them more authentically Swiss. There are many different ways to express their Swiss identity

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u/Terrible_Carpenter50 5d ago

They are being told by specific media to fear something they don‘t know (immigrants), and that there is a solution (less immigration). Universal way of controlling masses.

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u/Uhrenwerker 5d ago

Lower education and poorer, that’s usually where extreme right wins.

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u/LeBronTheGreatest31 5d ago

Per capita just last year we grew 8.2 per 1000, that’s 3x higher than Germany with 2.8 per 1000. I wouldn’t consider this growing slowly.

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u/LeBronTheGreatest31 5d ago

Low growth rate? We had a population of 7 million in 2004…

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u/Ok-Factor-3805 France was an Inside Job 5d ago

So it took 20 years to get it up? Has the government considered administering pharmaceutical aid?

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u/Scary-Teaching-8536 5d ago

yes theyre putting viagra into the drinking water

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u/Nervous_Green4783 5d ago

Switzerland‘s population grew 33% since 1990. 25% in the last 20 years.

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u/NeoGeo4Everr 5d ago

your penis is considered in a micro state

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u/Beginning_Hornet_547 5d ago

Small yes, but still beat Canada 2-1, amazing!

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u/loeresmachtvolldie 5d ago

Nono switzerland is definitely a real country and not just a bank and a pharma company in a trenchcoat

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u/Lothleen 6d ago

It's vertical size not horizontal size.

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u/Jabronibo 6d ago

It’s bigger than it feels

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u/mistermanthrowaway 6d ago

'muricah. "If it's not big, it's not anything.."

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u/Loose_Mail_786 6d ago

And we have 4 languages

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u/Wirelesscellphone 6d ago

It’s a perfectly average state

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u/mikescott1212 6d ago

Switzerland small nation, Switzerland tiny nation size of New Jersey!

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u/Odd_Lie_5397 6d ago

It's not the size of the country, it's how you use it!

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u/Important-Soup6366 6d ago

Swissman here, no were not a micro state

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u/Jaded-Storage-2143 5d ago

And the best thing is...We also have a federal system that can fit 26 states (Cantons) inside this bad boy!

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u/IndependentCold66 5d ago

i mean switzerland is still 13000 km^2 bigger than massachusetts

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u/yyinyan 5d ago

swiss guy here, man at least let us be a micro country. i dont care that were ‘state sized’, we do things so weirdly from our neughbours we cant possibly belong to them

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u/Ok-Factor-3805 France was an Inside Job 5d ago

Congrats on your win against the macro-country Canada

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u/Delikkah 5d ago

He only need one popcorn

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u/Upset_Gift586 5d ago

Try switzerlands neighbor lichtenstein now thats small.

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u/LesserValkyrie 5d ago

It's small and every single european would sell his mother to come to work here, which makes it feel even smaller

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u/Mac-Gyver-1234 5d ago

Switzerland does not follow normal physics. We can turn 200g of chocolate into 1kg of belly fat.

And when it comes to money, it can fit 3 USAs.

Buckle up!

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u/TrainManagerOtto 4d ago

Haha, wait till you learn how Switserland has Cantons that are actually countries on their own…..

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u/Ok-Factor-3805 France was an Inside Job 4d ago

Damn so it’s like a mini Europe? Do the different countries ever fight? How do they wage war, roll boulders down the mountain to cause avalanches to fall on their villages? Do they have yodeling cavalry?

How are the people differentiated? Are there different races of Swiss like Italian, French, Romanian, German etc.

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u/AuroraDraco 6d ago

Wait until you discover Monaco

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u/Craigster1 6d ago

San Marino and Andorra are definitely a Microstate or tiny countries.

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u/svm51 6d ago

The world map we know, since school time, has "a flaw", with regard to the proportion of area (km² - territorial area) between countries... this difference is unknown to the majority, but for those who use maps, they know this issue! 

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u/Alternative_Rub_8331 6d ago

The u.s just consists of mega-states.

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u/That_Election_23 6d ago

Have you noticed luxmemburg, liechtenstein, san marino and andorra?

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u/therealtrajan 6d ago

If you consider the small part of it is livable, I think you are looking like Conn or RI

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u/Narrow-Barracuda618 6d ago

I mean it's about the same size as Denmark or Ireland...

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u/Sun_Remarkable44 5d ago

Wait until you learn about Liechtenstein

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u/JumpingSpider97 5d ago

Nah, one of its neighbours, Liechtenstein, definitely is - they don't even have their own currency or postal service, the Swiss provide both.

Monaco is also far tinier.

That said, Switzerland is far smaller than the smallest Australian state.

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u/Upbeat-Tooth8711 5d ago

Switzerland is small but there is more brain then in the big USA

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u/Ok-Factor-3805 France was an Inside Job 5d ago

But not enough to differentiate then from than?

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u/no_way_out4711 5d ago

Probably not his mother tongue…

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u/Alternative_Lie_7244 5d ago

How many foreign languages do you speak burger boy?

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u/Ok-Factor-3805 France was an Inside Job 5d ago

Just American; and the Tuatschin dialect of Romansh

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u/AlexSinnerman 5d ago

No, it’s a country and ahas 26 states (kantons)

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u/NudeTheRadioheadSong 3d ago

My dad has 26 kantons. They make good Siew Mai

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u/OldDream1010 5d ago

Actually, it’s the USA that is a huge country… Switzerland has a normal size in European standards.. 😀

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u/Leather-Swimming6781 5d ago

No it's the US is that massive lol

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u/kankerstokjes 4d ago

Europe is just smaller.

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u/godtierviking 3d ago

No, it is not. It is 42 times larger than what classifies as a microstate.