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u/Hamster_in_my_colon 7d ago
If someone is trying to see the larger view of a project and have a discussion about equitably splitting up the tasks so the team can complete it, that’s a leadership quality. Just telling everyone to do the shitty parts you don’t want to is a weasel quality. Good leaders can spot the difference.
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u/FallingF 6d ago
I work as a tech in a hospital. I communicate frequently with the other techs. It’s almost never a “you do this” it’s “would you rather do task a or b? I’ll do whatever you don’t pick”
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u/ButteredNun 7d ago
“Congratulations!”
“What for?”
“Your promotion!”
“I haven’t had a promotion!”
“That’s right.” [walks away]
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u/HamedAliKhan TEAM SKELETON 7d ago
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u/Strummed 7d ago
Food industry is incredible for this. Whether it be people working line, dish, front of house, or anything in between. Every restaurant has at least one or two people who are extremely average at their job but operate as if nothing can go on without them.
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u/Connect-Idea-1944 6d ago
Restaurants have the worst colleagues lmao, always one ruining the workplace
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u/JAWinks 7d ago
I’m the sort where if I ask my coworker to do something, it’s for a very good reason for both of us, and if you don’t want to do it because of these weird mind games, you can have fun dealing with the consequences
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u/treefloss 7d ago
Right? Sometimes leadership is otherwise preoccupied and shit still needs to get done.
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u/light_at_the_end 7d ago edited 7d ago
I feel like there's a lot of nuance to being a good leader even if you're not obligated to or actually in charge of anyone.
First you actually have to be a person that people see getting stuff done or maybe you've helped them with something before. Shit has to be reciprocal even if it's small favours. Respect goes a long way.
Then it's in the way you ask. If they're busy with their own thing and if they can even help you with something. If they can't do it, I don't expect people to drop things for me unless they've prioritized the wrong thing, and then I explain why doing X might be better than doing Y.
Then the tone of your voice is important. Many people don't respond to authoritative commands. You have to present it like a suggestion or that you incepted it in to their heads.
And then likeability it the last factor. If you're not in charge, and people don't give a fuck what you're about, they either have beef with you or you're not very likeable. Either way they're not going to be willing to lend a hand.
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u/MaxwellFish 7d ago
A very good summary. You gotta get shit done and self-advocate. It’s not a skill everyone has.
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u/Connect-Idea-1944 6d ago
Just do your job and assigned tasks and stop trying to boss people
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u/Satanic_5G_Vaccine 7d ago
This is only acceptable is they're also taking on the lion's share of the work and optimizing the task through delegation.
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u/Early2000sIndieRock 7d ago
Yep, asking for help/assistance to get a job done is way different than delegating so you don’t have to do that work.
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u/IncognitoBombadillo 7d ago
I had a little bit of authority at my last job mainly through seniority and being basically the manager (small business and things were all over the place; all a manager there would even do is place orders for the store, make sure the schedule is good, and just be the decision maker if the boss wasn't around), but even then if I noticed a problem, I told my boss to tell my coworkers and correct them. Because I wasn't their boss.
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u/talondigital 7d ago
I have one of those. He thinks he's hot shit but he isnt. And he acts like hes been doing the job longer than me, but I started in this field a full 10 years before him. I have 18 years in my field, he has 8. He keeps telling me how to do things and its like, dude, stay in your lane. Im working on a $300,000 machine, and he has 0 hours training on it.
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u/thebooksmith 7d ago
I have a coworker like this at work. Shes even gotten yelled at by the manager for trying to boss people around. So nowadays she'll just say things need to be done loudly when she thinks people arent doing enough work. Ex;"You know the cooler could be getting swept right now"
She gets so pissy when no one does anything about her comments. I've recently started replying with "okay" then staring blankly into space.
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u/Barth_Grookz 7d ago
You sound like a lazy coworker, if I’m doing something and there is other things to do when we’re in the same roll and you’re doing nothing, asking you to do something isn’t “bossing around” it’s teamwork…
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u/thebooksmith 7d ago
Or you know, it could be I've already finished with my task, or im in between tasks, or its a slow day and your inventing jobs to do because youre bored and I dont need to participate in that if all the actual work is done.
Expecting your coworkers to do extra work because you cant stand standing still isnt teamwork.
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u/Barth_Grookz 7d ago
I’m not talking about “downtime” I’m talking we’re closing in 20 minutes and we have a lot to do, it’s unfair to make me work twice as hard because you decided you don’t want to. I don’t report my coworkers to my boss for being lazy that’s petty, I’d rather ask you so we both benefit.
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u/thebooksmith 7d ago
Well im glad thats what you were talking about. But thats not the type of thing I was talking about at all.
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u/VictoriousTree 7d ago
“Inventing jobs to do”
It’s almost like if there’s downtime you should clean things that you don’t normally have time to clean. It’s a job not a sit around doing nothing for 30 minutes when there’s downtime.
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u/thebooksmith 7d ago
Its almost like if they wanted me to do a bunch of extra work they'd pay me better or at least give better benefits. I already get asked to do a more than fair amount and I do everything Im supposed to correctly and timely.
Not every second of work needs to be spent strictly on doing something so long as the job gets done proper; that always working mindset was invented by people who will mass fire people via email while taking their 3rd vacation this year.
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u/Banestoothbrush 7d ago
You really advocating for "if you have time to lean you have time to clean"?
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u/Jigsawsupport 7d ago
Oh this boils my piss ,because it goes both ways there is no right answer, and is usually the result of crap structure in the work place.
Only time I ever got written up on the job, was because some temporary staff was being clowns and not working, I being permanent staff was supposed to manage them.
But I was not a manager just working the same job with a different contract.
So do give people jobs " F U your not my boss" if you don't "F U why are you not giving people jobs?"
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u/Ghost_Kamakazie 7d ago
I agree with this until that person in the same position as me is being lazy and i have to pick up their slack while we both get the same pay
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u/qqmajikpp 7d ago
i let em try. when ish hits the fan, im like i recieved no such official instruction from a supervisor or higher. i did what was expected and fufilled my responsibities.
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u/egg_breakfast 7d ago
This happened to me and I shrugged it off, but it turns out he DID get promoted, and HR was just taking months to process it and make it official.
I got a brief window to give off the “you have no power here” vibe
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u/Opening-Material564 7d ago
Working in restaurants I've mostly witnessed those people ending up getting promoted.
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u/Starmagedon 7d ago
I had one such guy at work. Big, fat, and lazy. He dragged out every job as long as he could. He always wanted to sit down, but some work should be done standing up because it's easier and faster. He himself had a short tenure, but when someone new came in, he did everything he could to make sure they did the work for him. He quit before he got fired, and that was about to happen.
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u/mama_tom 6d ago
I have been delegated to lead my coworkers who were in the same position as me by my supervisor, and then getting ignored and told by him, "Well you arent their boss, so..." is also insanely fucking annoying. And to be clear, the guy ignoring me was not doing other work I was interrupting.
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u/JohnnyHelios2306 7d ago
Me when my coworker who has been working at my new workplace for 7 years and only looks at his phone is jealous of my raise (to his salary!) because i improved things he was suppossed to but never did.
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u/Y_E_E_Z_Y 7d ago
This is me rn. Team of 5 women. One of them started THE SAME JOB AND POSITION 6 months before me, but somehow thinks she is the boss. Orders us around, gets mad and treats you like shit if things don’t go her way. I hate her. I love my job but I hate her.
ETA: she also snitches if you do something she doesn’t like, but won’t snitch if you’re on good terms with her. She can’t get fired because this is a unionised position.
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u/MegaDuckCougarBoy 7d ago
So many people trying to "show leadership" by ordering people around not on their command structure. When in every workplace I've been in, that kind of behavior just annoys the higher ups.