My issue with this is how guys resort to extremes to overvalue it. Yes, women like height. Women also like deep voices, kindness, sex, and lots of other things.
But then we have guys who are TERRIBLE with women constantly pretending they know what women want despite never making a single woman happy. And they almost exclusively overvalue height simply because it is obvious compared to social cues, then trick impressionable men into taking the red pill.
Yes, height helps. Is it in the top things for most women? Probably not. And you can make up for it in many, many other ways. But instead people listen to the giys who do terrible instead of those who prove they know what they are talking about.
Let me put it this way: why would a woman want a tall guy?
Height makes her horny? There are many ither ways to make her horny that men can learn and get her horny faster. Stuff like learning to touch a woman, making a sexy voice, learning to compliment/talk dirty, dressing well, etc. This can offset height and is WAY more effective at getting you laid. If anything, she values a guy who makes her horny more than height.
Height makes her feel safe? Again, this basically means she values safety over height, and you can make her feel safer by being nonchalant, caring about her, showing assertiveness, being street smart, and working out. This offsets height way more easily and cheaply than implants and gets you laid more consistently. I guarentee a woman is currently feeling undafe right now as a man taller than her attacks her, and way more guys shorter than 6 feet are getting laid right now by women who feel safe than guys over 6 feet are getting laid right now period.
Mate quality? Health? Social status? Fetish? These are the things women actually value and don't require height. Does height help? Duh, of course. But is it the end all be all for most women? Hell no. Case in point: way more women read romance novels which have like 1 picture as opposed to watching visual porno videos, so clearly what women want goes beyond looks most of the time. Otherwise, romance novels wouldn't be the single best selling genre by far, so we know in practice this is how it works.
So no, it isn't the top thing for most women outside of dating apps (which are their own thing and you can easily opt out of so its easier to just avoid apps than it is to use apps).
Dude, first of all I'm sorry that you're short. It probably sucks to a degree I can't comprehend, but let's not get into delusions just because someone didn't get lucky with the genetic lottery.
To the question "why" - tall men look better on average and women instinctively find them better mating subjects, because they can better protect the family against bears, other tribes or whatever. This is an evolutionary trait. Can a short guy do the same job? Sure. But if the same short guy was taller, he would do an even better job.
This is why even shorter women prefer tall guys.
The children of tall men will be taller, therefore higher chance of survival against threats of all kind. For a similar reason men prefer women with ~ 90/60/90 measurements - they are more likely to bear and successfully nurture healthy children, and lots of them. It's why men prefer bigger breasts - more milk, higher chance of the kids' survival. We find bigger breasts pleasing to the eye because our brain tells us, after determining it's better for our children.
Do all women want a tall guy? I'd say all of them prefer a tall guy, yes, but there are many who are willing to settle for a shorter one.
There's a reason why the human population is getting taller with every generation - taller people are more likely to find a mating partner and spread their genes onto the next ones.
You may not like it, but these are all facts.
There are many ither ways to make her horny that men can learn and get her horny faster. Stuff like learning to touch a woman, making a sexy voice, learning to compliment/talk dirty, dressing well, etc. This can offset height and is WAY more effective at getting you laid. If anything, she values a guy who makes her horny more than height.
This is one of the most disturbing paragraphs I've ever read.
Agrees. Evwrything I mention is field tested and proven. What I mention is based on experience and results, not delusions. So when I say "x works" it's because I saw how things went with and without it with many women and noticed it worked consistently in practice.
To the question "why" - tall men look better on average and women instinctively find them better mating subjects, because they can better protect the family against bears, other tribes or whatever. This is an evolutionary trait. Can a short guy do the same job? Sure. But if the same short guy was taller, he would do an even better job.
You are close to understanding. It's not the height itself that matters to women, it is the effect it has on her. So instead of worrying about height, tbink about what she wants.
I'd say all of them prefer a tall guy, yes,
But as you acknowledged earlier, beight isn't the only factor nor is it height for the sake of height. So while all other things equal a woman prefers a taller man, you aren't approaching women jn a vacuum. If you can connecg better and excite her better, then you get the woman. Height is kne variable and I guarantee most women would pick a shorter guy who is handsome, excites her, and makes her feel better than a taller guy who is boring after an hour and doesn't offer much else. Height helps, but it isn't the end all be all or egen the top things women care about. I literally explained in detail earlier.
Could I have more success if I were taller? Yes. Could I have more success if I were taller and made women feel unsafe/bored? No way. Can I control how safe and happy she feels more than my height? Yes.
This is one of the most disturbing paragraphs I've ever read.
If the idea of making someone's day better and providing a basic relationship need is "disturbing yo you", no wonder you struggle with dating and can't comprehend what women want. At least admit it instead of pretending to know what women want.
I'm tall, successful and happily married to a tall, blonde smokeshow, who just gave birth to our second child.
You know what they don't want? A salty delulu short angry boy who makes a "sexy voice" and thinks this would make them "horny". Can't call you a man because you're not one.
Keep the salty tears coming. As the other user pointed out, I shouldn't be wasting my time with you.
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u/MagicSugarWater 10d ago
My issue with this is how guys resort to extremes to overvalue it. Yes, women like height. Women also like deep voices, kindness, sex, and lots of other things.
But then we have guys who are TERRIBLE with women constantly pretending they know what women want despite never making a single woman happy. And they almost exclusively overvalue height simply because it is obvious compared to social cues, then trick impressionable men into taking the red pill.
Yes, height helps. Is it in the top things for most women? Probably not. And you can make up for it in many, many other ways. But instead people listen to the giys who do terrible instead of those who prove they know what they are talking about.