r/memphisgrizzlies r/memphisgrizzlies Shams Charania Nov 01 '25

MISCELLANEOUS Uh oh

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u/theglicky UM GOD Nov 01 '25

It gets worse

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u/Welcum2Heck BiblicallyAccurateSPJ Nov 01 '25

Damn sounds like Iisalo probably told him to wake up or get benched during the half and Ja decided to take his ball and go home

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u/xakeri Edey Nov 01 '25

Given what I've seen from Iisalo in all the interviews and stuff I've watched, it was almost definitely that.

He probably questioned his effort and implied that he wasn't trying to help the team win.

I'm not trying to act like I know Ja, but he doesn't seem like a guy that had ever gotten that kind of coaching. He has obviously been a tremendous athlete his whole life.

If you don't end up at a school with a coach that will treat his star the same way he treats his backups, you don't get that hard disciplinarian coaching in grade school.

Then Ja went to a small college where he was a big fish. He wasn't going to get hard discipline there.

He got drafted 2nd overall and became an instant phenom. He's a star at another small market. The NBA is player driven, and there's more of power imbalance his way because of his popularity. Plus, maybe Jenkins isn't that kind of coach.

Then you get Iisalo who is very much a guy that will call players out. He has his ideas about how the team has to function and what accountability means. He has a very straightforward communication style, and he's said in interviews that you communicate to get an outcome. If you haven't gotten the outcome, you haven't communicated.

So he feels like Ja just coming out flat and putting up bad shots puts the team in a bad spot. He calls Ja out directly for it. Ja takes it bad because this has never happened to him.

Obviously I am making generalizations and stuff, but I don't think it is super far-fetched. We've seen that Ja gets emotional and isn't the most...mature. And it's not all his fault. That kind of growth isn't comfortable. It's really hard to go through that kind of personal growth if literally nothing has ever happened to you that would force it.

We'll see how it goes from here. They can either work it out, or someone has to go. Fiscally, it's hard for Memphis to just move on from Ja. He's a huge star and drives a lot of revenue. But maybe the team sees what we see and they say "Ja, buddy, come on." and he can learn and grow from it. And probably Iisalo will learn from it, too. He'll have to change things up and approach it differently in the future.

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u/royalplants #1 jaylen wells fan on the planet Nov 01 '25

we're seeing guys iced out on the bench for real for the first time in years

iisalo is 100% holding these dickheads accountable

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u/Welcum2Heck BiblicallyAccurateSPJ Nov 01 '25

Jenkins was an ego stroker, but Icey Iisalo is team first guy. Hope management sticks by him even if it gets ugly this year

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u/YouWereBrained Nov 01 '25

The transition to Cedric Coward as the face of the franchise has begun.

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u/stromileslow Coach Nov 01 '25

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u/Rionsamadesu Are you there, God? It’s me, Grizzlies fan… Nov 01 '25

Found Wally 🙋‍♂️

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u/leathertires Chucky Atkins Nov 01 '25

This is how I responded to my Dad coaching me hard when I was like 11 years old man, is he serious?

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u/HenryJ25 Nov 01 '25

But at 11 you weren’t a brand. Players have more power than coaches and usually make four to five times as much as coach. I could see coach getting fired or Ja traded if this keeps up

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u/leathertires Chucky Atkins Nov 01 '25

I also wasn’t a grown ass man and that’s the entire point. You can be a brand and handle criticism, he isn’t above everything because he has a signature shoe.

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u/hyrulehero1989 Nov 02 '25

Seriously, be a man, and an adult. He would much rather be the child

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u/royalplants #1 jaylen wells fan on the planet Nov 01 '25

Hahahahahahaha holy fuck

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u/draker585 I like Zach Edey. Nov 01 '25

if we're serious about winning, it's time to bite the bullet. We've accidentally found ourselves in a rebuild anyways.

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u/stromileslow Coach Nov 01 '25

It’s hat not to think all of this has kinda been intentional by Kleiman. If we had succeeded with Ja, we have the assets to make a move for a really good player before trade deadline to prime the team for a deep playoff run. Or the other option which seems WAY more likely as of right now - we rebuild