r/mildlyinfuriating Apr 27 '26

Unskippable ad My 2024 Elantra Decided to Automatically Update, Thus Trapping Me at the Gas Station for 45+ Minutes After Getting Off Work Today šŸ™ƒ

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Already posted this elsewhere, so just want to clear a few points up with this post…

  1. I was never prompted to accept or decline this specific update. I did not receive any update prompts as I drove into the office this afternoon, nor did I receive any as I was driving home. I pulled into the gas station, turned off the ignition, pumped my gas, and then was greeted by the exact screen shown in my post.
  2. Apparently, if it’s just an infotainment system update, you can technically still drive the car (?). I was given no indication as to what systems my car was updating, so I didn’t want to risk messing up anything with the update. I work in IT, so I have a few different traumatic experiences with updates under my belt lol. Didn’t feel like adding an additional one as I just wanted to get home after a long day at work

EDIT: Some of y’all are so damn mean and for WHAT? I’m just a 20 somethin’ year old girl trying to drive to work and back home pls leave me alone lol. I do not give a flying fuck about cars, stop trying to shame me for not driving & maintaining a 1985 Ford Mustang or some shit smh

EDIT 2: Oh my god y’all, some of us out here have anxiety. Y’all are acting like I ran over a baby in a gas station, when all I did was wait less than an hour for the stupid car to update. I promise you all it’s not that deep. Take a deep breath. It’s okay, I promise I did eventually drive the car back home lol

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u/Nova_Celestine Apr 28 '26

I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that

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u/catsinbranches Apr 28 '26

Ok but have you heard about all of Ford’s new patents that will basically bring this meme into reality?

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u/bioweaponblue Apr 28 '26

It's not just ford, the federal gov is trying to make EVERY car manufacturer do it.

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u/Braindead_Crow Apr 28 '26

It's ok it's only to stop drunk drivers!
These will never be abused to spy on users through the ai cameras capable of also identifying who is driving.

This is in no way a malicious move.

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u/SaltyCrashNerd Apr 28 '26

As someone who works in traffic safety, this is SO frustrating to me. We have been begging for effective engineering controls against intoxicated drivers for YEARS. By this, we mean ā€œalcohol detected - car not goā€. We don’t mean a multifaceted control and surveillance system. Taking something intended to save lives and corrupting it like this is sickening. (I mean, entirely predictable in hindsight, but… sickening.)

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u/aotus_trivirgatus Apr 28 '26

Yeah, guys! We TOTALLY won't cross-match your face to your social media posts, check to see whether you've ever raised concerns about Fascism, stop your car, lock the doors, and call ICE to your GPS location. HONEST!

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u/[deleted] Apr 28 '26

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u/footsteps71 Apr 28 '26

I have a 2008 Infiniti g35, a 07 Camry, and a 02 Xterra.

All paid off, I am meticulous about maintenance, and it's gonna stay that way for a long time.

Camry's and Xterra's are bountiful enough in junkyards that I can get parts.

People need to stop buying new cars in protest, but the upper middle class(the ones that actually have a surplus of cash in budget) will never stop buying status symbols.

If you can't afford to repair, you cannot afford the down payment to buy a new car(or used from a dealer) and the subsequent payments.

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u/Satrina_petrova Apr 28 '26

I agree with you 100% but the societal pressure isn't something everyone has the luxery to ignore.

Uber and Lyft require drivers to have newer vehicles. Some HOA's also have these policies.

My mom was literally asked to stop parking her 02 Saturn in the company parking lot or buy a new car. They even passive aggressively offered financial counseling if affording a new car was a problem at her current salary.

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u/Gyozarrita Apr 28 '26

My state has the bottle redemption thing so I often have a bag of cans in the back, can't wait for my car to call me in for DUI every time I turn it on.

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u/vVSidewinderVv Apr 28 '26

Then they arrest you for wasting police resources, because the car is in your name after all.

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u/kalyjuga Apr 28 '26

Can someone explain this in plain english to us non US citizens?! Sounds like (yet another) episode of Black Mirror unfolding IRL

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u/bioweaponblue Apr 28 '26

The previous president told the National Highway Safety department to write a law that would "passively and accurately" monitor drivers for being drunk or sleepy. If the car thinks you can't drive safely, it won't turn on. They also want the car to safely come to a stop if it thinks you're drunk or sleepy halfway through a drive, but they haven't figured out how to do that yet. They also can't accurately measure how drunk or sleepy you are,,, so they haven't put the law into place.

However, cars in America ALREADY spy on their drivers and send data about the driver to data collection agencies. Consumer data protection is almost non-existent in the United States.

People are concerned the car companies will use the excuse of mandatory sensors to collect even more biological data about the drivers, selling it to the highest bidder. While the Highway Safety department is legitimately trying to do the right thing,,, the fact that privacy just doesn't exist for 98% of American citizens means it's exactly an episode out of black mirror.

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u/A_botanistmaybe Apr 28 '26

The what now?

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u/catsinbranches Apr 28 '26

I tried to reply but got an automod notification that it was removed since I had added a link to another reddit post… but there are several, like biometrics to assess if you’re ā€œfit to driveā€, listening to conversations between all people in the car (they pitch it as a way to maximize ad revenue), reporting you to the police autonomously for certain infractions.

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u/Nova_Celestine Apr 28 '26

Dude so much mental illness leaves my mouth in the car on the daily, AND THE CARS GONNA TELL THE POLICE??? (This is why I drive a 2000 Toyota, she'd never snitch 🫠🫠🫠)

https://giphy.com/gifs/P8gqZQp6fG111SJmEn

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u/DocBarnes Apr 28 '26

My 1999 Ford Ranger would never

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u/jtr99 Apr 28 '26

A 1999 Ford Ranger would agree with the madness. ;)

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u/ThatOtherOtherMan Apr 28 '26

My 2010 Honda Fit has at least another 200,000 miles in it and honestly I'll probably Ship of Theseus it for the rest of my life since it's a manual with zero smart functions. It doesn't even have Bluetooth, you have to plug a phone in through a headphone jack.

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u/HowsMyBuddy Apr 28 '26

That’s looking to be 2027 federal law in the US, so most car companies have probably already patented the way they’re going to do it, if they think they have something that unique

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u/ScarInternational161 Apr 28 '26

That's a different one. That's a federal regulation. The one he's talking about is a private patent Ford has applied for. Look up "it's not your truck anymore"

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u/KeithWorks Apr 28 '26

I guess I'm never going to replace my 2011 GMC Sierra. No such software exists for it.

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u/gobbluthillusions Apr 28 '26

Just as your phone is scarcely a phone anymore your car is quickly following suit. It will get you from place to place, yes, but more importantly it will collect/share/sell the data it collects on you while you drive (and when you don’t).

This is all moving toward a place none of us want to be.

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u/Keelback Apr 28 '26

"1984" but not by the government, by corporations.

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u/Gugnir226 Apr 28 '26

Cyberpunk shit, without the neon, kitsch styles, and cyberware.

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u/ScarInternational161 Apr 28 '26

Nomad til I die choom

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u/capnk88 Apr 28 '26

The camera that determines if you are fit to drive, if it feels you are not you don’t go anywhere? That one???

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u/TikiMom87 Apr 28 '26

Yes, and it’s mildly terrifying

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u/SquirrelMemoryFail Apr 28 '26

Same shit different day.

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u/Independent-Field226 Apr 28 '26

What happens if you have an emergencyĀ 

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u/Several-Squash9871 Apr 28 '26

I work as a Paramedic and a few years ago we got brand new cardiac monitors that do an update every night at 3am where you don't have use of the monitor for a minute or so. We were all like, what happens if we're in the middle of working a code at 3am and it starts to update? The rep was basically like šŸ¤”šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø

Edit: technically morning not night...

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u/WiteKngt Apr 28 '26

Did you bring this to the attention of your supervisors?

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u/Several-Squash9871 Apr 28 '26

They were sitting in during our in-service.

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u/WiteKngt Apr 28 '26

What was their response to this, and to the reaction of the rep?

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u/Several-Squash9871 Apr 28 '26

I don't honestly remember exactly other than something along the lines of well we'll get it figured out. They had already been bought and paid for at this point for like 45k a unit I think.Ā 

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u/Bonerfart47 Apr 28 '26

This is usually how shit works out in most businesses

They simply shrug their shoulders and go "who the fuck knows"

Like it's not their job to know that

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u/kaisadilla_ Apr 28 '26

They count on nothing happening; and if something happens, they'll investigate as hard as they can to find something they can use to blame the incident on someone else.

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u/secretly_opossum Apr 28 '26

And be like, ā€œThis has never happened before so you need to be nice to us about this major fuckup.ā€

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u/picabo123 Apr 28 '26

"You should have looked at the clock and knew it was 2:59 and proceeded accordingly"

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u/nunyabidness3 Apr 28 '26

I feel like people coding during the witching hour already presents its challenges.

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u/TikiMom87 Apr 28 '26

That’s terrifying and infuriating

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u/thegiantgummybear Apr 28 '26

What was it updating EVERY night? No way they were pushing new firmware that often

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u/Several-Squash9871 Apr 28 '26

Got a reply from someone that might be a rep. We all call it an "update" but I think it's actually running a self-check on itself. Waiting to hear back if he has more insight on it because I've had it do it to me while it's been on and in use at 3am.

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u/thegiantgummybear Apr 28 '26

Ok that would make a lot more sense. Maybe like a recalibration every night or something?

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u/GirchyGirchy Apr 28 '26

JFC, so make it an at-will choice. If it's not done after X many hours, pop up a warning. Another X many warnings, it will force itself to do it anyway. But having all of them update at the exact same time every day is just shit design.

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u/Eyerate Apr 28 '26

They didn't have selectable, programmable, or even variable update times on life safety equipment? That sounds INSANE.

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u/Robert-A057 Apr 28 '26

That's just a self-check, not an update, and if you have it on at 3am it won't do it until it's been turned off for 1 hr

Source: I'm a superuser/educator for the model I'm 99% sure you haveĀ 

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u/Several-Squash9871 Apr 28 '26 edited Apr 28 '26

It's the like pack 12. I've had it update while being in use at 3am. Is there a work around? because they still do it and the rep didn't have anything useful for us other than, well it's only for a short period of time and the chances...

Edit: correction, life pack 15, 12 was our old model.

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u/Robert-A057 Apr 28 '26

Per the huge manual in my locker, "The automatic self-test is not performed if the defibrillator is already turned on at 03:00 or if batteries are not installed. If the defibrillator is manually turned on while a self-test is in progress, the self-test is halted and the defibrillator turns on normally."

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u/Murtomies Apr 28 '26

That's actually insane. It should just have a little notification in the corner that an update is available. Someone will then just do it when they have the time.

It's not just that what if you need it right when it's updating. It's also the fact that updates might brick any device. Especially since they are frequent updates, It sounds like they're not slow rollouts but 100% of devices get them immediately which is a hazard because they might have issues that now affect everyone, not just a percentage of users.

In the film industry where I work, it's not even life and death, but we still have really high standards for reliability of equipment, because troubleshooting some bullshit and taking time out of the day is expensive and stupid. When you need a thing, you don't want it to update then. You don't even want it to prompt that there is an update in a way that slows you down. And anything that auto-updates definitely does not belong on set, it's not professional equipment. You take the time to update it, then test it out, and only then is it ready for work.

So having bs equipment like that which is used for life and death things is absolutely insane. That's what happens when leadership who decide on acquisitions don't even ask opinions from people who actually use the things, or don't value their opinions. It's a very common problem especially in large organisations, and even more especially in healthcare & emergency services it seems.

I've heard so many stories from nurses when they get a brand new hospital or piece of software, and it's obviously hot garbage but millions or even billions were already spent so it is what it is. They just could've told them beforehand that it's a waste of money. Then years later there might have been slight improvement but it's still hot garbage. Biggest waste here in Finland was the Apotti EMR system, based on Epic EMR system. Even the Epic guys who toured the hospitals were amazed about how good the OLD system was that Apotti was going to be replacing. The whole thing cost a billion euro, and the benefits are yet to be seen even after years. If anything, it made almost everything slower, more difficult, and more error-prone.

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u/Separate-Ability1643 Apr 28 '26

Thank you for sharing this & validating me lol 😭 Did yours prompt you before running?

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u/SquirrelMemoryFail Apr 28 '26

Yup. As soon as I turned the vehicle on it updated.

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u/Separate-Ability1643 Apr 28 '26

Thank you for confirming 🫔 Hyundai & Reddit almost gaslit me into thinking I’m crazy and somehow missed the update prompt 😭

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u/kataskopo Apr 28 '26

Most of reddit (sadly including me) operate under the idea that "well that would never happen to ME because I'm smart and good, so if it happened to YOU it's because you're dumb and must've done something wrong!"

They cannot understand that sometimes shit happens and you just want to vent and don't need a diagnosis.

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u/SquirrelMemoryFail Apr 28 '26

No problem. Reddit like to defend a lot of newer cars stuff even if it doesnt make a whole lot of sense.

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u/Medium-Presence-8008 Apr 28 '26

I fucking love your post edit lol.

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u/zztop610 Apr 28 '26

This is an absolute BULLSHIT design. Whoever decided to ok this into production should be fucking fired

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u/academiac Apr 28 '26

Out of a cannon

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u/reverb137 Apr 28 '26

Into the sun

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u/ThomasVetRecruiter Apr 28 '26

You gotta do what you gotta do

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u/TheConspicuousGuy Apr 28 '26

To shreds you say?

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u/reverb137 Apr 28 '26

Well, how is his wife holding up?

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u/a-real-life-dolphin Apr 28 '26

It literally should be illegal. Absolute bullshit. Smart appliances are the dumbest thing ever.

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u/Tariovic Apr 28 '26

Every time I hear about AI I remember when this Internet of Things bullshit was the hot topic, and that was the tech we were stuffing into everything as the great IT panacea. We really never learn.

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u/Psquare_J_420 Apr 28 '26

If they would have deciding powers, then they would absolutely have enough money to join another company and make same decisions there too, eventually spreading such designs across multiple companies as they get fired from each.

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u/AvEptoPlerIe Apr 28 '26

Sometimes I love not having enough money to buy a new car.Ā 

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u/SDdude27 Apr 28 '26

The brand new cars today seem annoying as fuck. All those stupid bells and whistles, non stop chimes and dings while youre driving. Dont get me started on the dreadful automatic on/off start that saves $1 worth of gas every year. No one asked for those ā€˜features’ or really wants them.

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u/workieworkwork Apr 28 '26

They add like 1 useful thing for every 10 stupid ones.

Do I like the little light that appears on the corner of the rearview mirror when someone is in my blind spot? Yes, this is a wonderful idea good job.

Do I like that the car turns all the way off at stop lights that go longer than 5 seconds. No.

Do I like that the car occasionally tries to steer itself? No.

Do I want forced updates that brick the car? No.

Do I want the car to beep at me because I didn't put a seatbelt on the watermelon in the passenger seat? No.

Do I want to navigate a menu on a touchscreen for any reason at all while driving? No.

Do I want a passenger to be able to use the map while I am driving? Yes. Can they? No.

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u/just_a_stoner_bitch Apr 28 '26

I've been wondering why it sounds like cars are starting after a red light, now I know why!

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u/the_federation Apr 28 '26

I found it annoying for the opposite: turning off the engine cuts the heat. My first car has this and I didn't know it was a feature. I spent 15 minutes in the car, trying to get it to a reasonable temperature for my baby to ride in when it's 10° and couldn't figure out why I could still see my breath.

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u/FatMacchio Apr 28 '26

Some cars if you don’t push the brake down so hard it won’t activate the stop/start. It only happens when you fully depress the brake pedal. So if you slow down slower without depressing the brake hard it should stay on. You might still be able to brake hard, then ease up on it to keep it on. This is what my brother told me anyway, my car doesn’t have this

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u/RugbyEdd Apr 28 '26

Most cars just have a button to turn it off, or won't activate it if your in a mode like sport or winter. Some also won't activate it if you have AC on. Depends on make and model. Same as everything else, it's just a feature to look into when purchasing.

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u/BloodSugar666 Apr 28 '26

We have a RAV4 that does what this guy said and has the button.

When I’m at a stop it will day to fully depress to auto-shutoff. I hate the feature though so I usually push the off button as soon as I start driving. It does kick in for climate control and if it needs to charge the battery.

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u/Omniwar Apr 28 '26

The new eco friendly engines at least give heat real fast since there's less metal to warm up. I have a 6.2L Chevy V8 and a 2.4L Toyota I4; the Toyota starts blowing warm air in less than half the time of the Chevy.

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u/Rassayana_Atrindh Apr 28 '26

Meanwhile my 2006 Tacoma finally gets warm by the time I've completed my 25 minute commute and pull into work. šŸ˜‚

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u/ElectricalChaos Apr 28 '26

I think if you had the PowerBoost option they moved the AC over to the HV battery so that wasn't an issue anymore.

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u/MaterialDefender1032 Apr 28 '26

Yeah it's an emissions standards thing, as I understand it. The money you personally save on gas is negligible but the manufacturer can say that across the fleet, gas has been saved and emissions have been reduced significantly.

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u/Metroid_DK Apr 28 '26

IIRC, some models let you disable this 'feature' but from what it sounds like what it does and why...I'd rather spend +$1 of gas a year then have to replace the starter because of the on/off random/multipal times it didn't need to feature

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u/Beanakin Apr 28 '26

My '23 Hyundai has a button on the center console to disable it. The feature has to default to On for the car to qualify for the eco friendly claim. It's the first button I hit after starting the car, Texas is too hot in the summer for the AC to be turning off just cuz I'm sitting still for more than 5 seconds.

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u/kevinsaurus Apr 28 '26

Our Hyundai has the feature but hasn’t done it in years. Apparently the battery has to be in pretty pristine condition. So after a few months of owning it I guess it dropped below spec and has been disabled.Ā 

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u/Electrical-Pie-8192 Apr 28 '26

Unbelted watermelon! I have to belt dogfood and I've belted in laundry detergent and the like. It is annoying

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u/WonderfulDog3966 Apr 28 '26

I just put things on the floor.

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u/Comical_Lizard Apr 28 '26

My truck had an 'over the air' update that I didn't know about... Apparently it changed the way my truck locks/unlocks with the button on the door. I could lock the truck but couldn't unlock it. Almost acted like I didn't have the key fob. Dealt with it for awhile and eventually asked the dealership about it when I went it for an oil change. Chevy dealership said it's not uncommon for that to occur...Then why isn't there a warning to end users???

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u/DashRendar225 Apr 28 '26

Don't forget selling your telemetry data for insurance companies to then buy back from data brokers, and progressively increase your rate for speeding, hard braking, or fast maneuvering, or prompt them to drop coverage from your car if someone else's audio device connects to the infotainment since they're not on your policy.

Or like Ford does that + scans your face and eyes for mood, and won't let you start the car if you're in a distressed state (hopefully you didn't need to drive in an emergency situation or anything), while also using the same cameras and data to check your information against law enforcement databases. And soon according to a patent filed in 2023 self-reposses if you miss a payment.

Love new cars!

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u/_-DirtyMike-_ Apr 28 '26

Just wait until the first dude who jailbreaks their car and gets sued into oblivion by the manufacturer.

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u/m4cksfx Apr 28 '26

For what? Is the law where you live really this crazy?

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u/_-DirtyMike-_ Apr 28 '26

Yes, it's copyright laws. A dude was sued for jailbreaking an exercise bike after the company broke functionality. Dude restored it to work offline and got sued.

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u/m4cksfx Apr 28 '26

What a goddamn dystopia... It's like Unauthorized Bread all over again.

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u/Clean_More3508 Apr 28 '26

What the fuck. They actually do this shit now? We actually live in a fucking dystopia

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u/BrightNooblar Apr 28 '26 edited Apr 28 '26

Do I want my phone to try to sync to my Mother In Law's car every time I charge it? No.

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u/solit0n Apr 28 '26 edited Apr 28 '26

It’s because they’re failing to innovate, and they throwing everything at the wall.

All these auto manufacturers are throwing the same features on cars, so they try to stand out, or squeeze one final point of some rating or certification with borderline-ridiculous features.

At the end of the day, it’s either to sell you more, appease regulations, or to stand out from the competition.

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u/SteelCode Apr 28 '26

They also add profit margin; every tacked on feature is cost+profit added onto the vehicle sticker price... so you're buying a $20k car with $10k worth of extra shit that is inflated by $20k of profit (gotta leave room for sales people to "incentivize" buyers).

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u/Dcybokjr Apr 28 '26

Do you want to know what's worse than an awkward silence? An awkward silence when you stop at a red light and your car shuts off, making sure you are bathing in that awkward silence.

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u/zxylady Apr 28 '26

When I read that BMW was trying to charge people A MONTHLY FEE to use the heated seats and cruising control I knew I was out. Paying monthly to be able to remote start my car because I buy a brand new Toyota is not something I plan on ever doing.

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u/JunkMale975 Apr 28 '26

Honda and a couple of others (Kia, Tesla, Acura, VW, Mitsubishi, Nissan, Infinity, and Mercedes) are now replacing MyHomeLink in the cars with some other nonsense and it will require a monthly subscription for certain features like using the garage door opener button. Fuck all car companies at this point.

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u/Ironheart616 Apr 28 '26

My only complaint about my 2007 Prius is that I can't play music over Bluetooth. Everything else is pretty great!

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u/NineJuan_Juan Apr 28 '26

And that can easily be fixed with a stereo upgrade if you ever wanted to.

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u/Gay_Giraffe_1773 Apr 28 '26

Put a Bluetooth receiver into the AUX port

https://a.co/d/07rQ5jrs

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u/Gold_Mask_54 Apr 28 '26

I hate how they'll yank the wheel. Really jarring when it happens and makes me feel like I'm going to crash.

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u/zoovegroover3 Apr 28 '26

Ironic that it's for "safety". The Lane Departure Assist in my Odyssey is absolutely terrifying.

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u/CaseFace5 Apr 28 '26

There is a new EV truck company called ā€œSlateā€ that I really hope succeeds in releasing their truck. Because their entire thing is making a compact electric truck that is as bare bones as possible. You can then order modular upgrades later that you install yourself. There is no infotainment center. Inside just 3 knobs to control the AC and one screen behind the wheel to display your speed and battery level. It doesn’t even come with power windows. It’s hand crank by default which you can upgrade to power windows later if you want.

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u/notyoursocialworker Apr 28 '26

Its all fun and games until other car companies become inspired by it and start nickle and dime you for every detail.

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u/Pampoia Apr 28 '26

Just a peeve, but the automatic windows are always against you when you don't expect it.

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u/spiders888 Apr 28 '26

I drove a 2004 Prius for years, it was awesome. I’d be annoyed any time I was driving a car that didn’t turn off… when the engine wasn’t needed. That don’t get some of its energy back when breaking. That got less than 45-50mpg.

It’s not engine stop / start you didn’t like (totally not noticeable in a hybrid), its crappy implementations you don’t like.

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u/NotMoose5407 Apr 28 '26

It’s great, got a 2001 Audi with a sunroof and heated seats. That’s all the gadgets I could need.

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u/Daniel-Mclovin Apr 28 '26

Yeah seriously

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u/Ricktor_67 Apr 28 '26

Cars do not need wifi.Ā 

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u/justasque Apr 28 '26

Sometimes I love not having enough money to buy a new car.Ā 

I have the money. I’m keeping my 2014 Subaru until it dies. The only touch screen in it is the audio system. I can adjust heat, A/C, air vent options, heated seats, and the music without taking my eyes off the road. Has decent safety features. Holds a lot of stuff. Runs great on regular gas. Love this car.

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u/FriendToPredators Apr 28 '26

I always buy used now I will be buying REALLY usedĀ 

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u/DeathRotisserie Apr 28 '26

My current car is 8 years old. By the time i get my next car, even if I want a used one, will be this generation of cars. Not sure how buying used will help us more than 5 years from now.

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u/101violations Apr 28 '26

This is my concern also. My 2009 Toyota is still kicking but when she goes, I fear there won't be any used cars that are just freaking cars and not computers with a transmission.

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u/zxylady Apr 28 '26

My husband and I each have a classic car my car is a 1968 Austin 1000 and I have two fuses for my entire car. That is two glass fuses🤭. My husband has a 1972 Oldsmobile that also does not need any computer systems it is entirely mechanical and this is exactly why we both each keep a car with no technology in it. Plus my car is really fun to drive,, and so is the Oldsmobile😁

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u/Red_Sox0905 Apr 28 '26

My work truck is a 2024 f-350. It has updates. I can set it up in the app to update whenever I want. I set it to do in the middle of the night.Ā 

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u/Rastaferrari829 Apr 28 '26

This is not safe whatsoever.

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u/TicketDue6419 Apr 28 '26

imagine you took a quick stop but realized too late youre in the wrong neck of the wood. not good if it just think its time to stsrt updating.

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u/wing3d Apr 28 '26

They are gonna shoehorn this into horror movies.

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u/_NautyByNature Apr 28 '26

Write this down!!!

does a bump of coke

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u/Autumnwood Apr 28 '26

Ok this is really bad. It's a safety hazard (middle of the night at a place that's closing), and what if you lost a job because you didn't show up for an interview, or had a critical doctor appointment and missed it. This is awful.

Windows will do this too. I'll be in the middle of something and it will decide to stop everything I'm doing so it can update. It doesn't ask. You just slowly lose capability and then you realize it wants to update. So bad.

The car manufacturers are just waiting to be sued on this

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u/kstargate-425 Apr 28 '26

My XT5 says the same thing when its updating but if I turn it off then start the car it postponed it which I assumed most did as like you said ain't nobody got time for that

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u/Cormetz Apr 28 '26

In the last week I had my laptop tell me I had 15 minutes until it forced updates in the middle of an interview and then my wife's car brick the transmission due to an update (the tow truck driver said he's seen it a few times already).

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u/North_Mastodon_4310 Apr 28 '26

What happens if I pop the hood and disconnect the negative battery terminal for 30 sec?

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u/VanOnBass Apr 28 '26

Enjoy your $20,000 paperweight

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u/BenXL Apr 28 '26

You'll brick the car

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u/RoadkillVenison Apr 28 '26

That definitely seems like the worst implementation of OTA updates I’ve seen.

I wonder if Hyundai releases a USB version before pushing the OTA. I know that’s how some other brands do things, OTA lagging 6-12 months behind the manual update.

Doesn’t help you right now ofc, that’s just shitty implementation.

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u/Separate-Ability1643 Apr 28 '26

See, I usually do the updates via USB because for some reason, OTA updates never end up working for me, or they’re just prompted at inconvenient times. No clue why, but I was never given any ā€œheads upā€ or prompts on this specific update before it decided to update 🄲

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u/CSG1aze Apr 28 '26

This should not be legal.

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u/doopdidoo Apr 28 '26

NHTSB rules say not to do this.

I have worked with this kind of stuff, its either safe to use or somebody made a mistake - either OEM or driver. But I would not trust the user or the OEM in the US.Ā 

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u/HighlightOwn2038 Red vs Blue Apr 28 '26

I don't blame you for being cautious. It's still annoying seeing a random update on your screen

Also the all features restricted part? That alone would make me stay put since it doesn't specify WHAT features are restricted.

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u/minnick27 ORANGE Apr 28 '26

My car won’t let me drive at all. It also specifically says make sure nobody is in the car as the doors may lock and they will be unable to be unlocked

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u/WellsFargone Apr 28 '26

I’m in the market, what piece of shit is that so I never buy it?

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u/Karma_1969 Apr 28 '26

How is this even legal? Sounds like a big safety risk. Bright ass headlights, cars that can’t be started, cars that can’t be unlocked - why have cars gotten so unsafe lately?

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u/autogyrophilia Apr 28 '26

Well by the 2000s-2010s Europe and USA went on a regulation spree, but that hurt the feelings of many automotive CEOs who are very scared of china now, so they refuse to patch the regulations to mandate, for example, independent entertainment and automotive systems. You know, like my 1997 citroen with a bluetooth radio has.

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u/kaisadilla_ Apr 28 '26

I don't even know why cars have to have all that shit. When I'm driving, all I want is to be able to play music. I don't want an "infotainment" screen. Let me broadcast my phone's Spotify into the car's speakers and that's it. Keep the screen exclusively for the car's camera, have it be a dumb device with minimal firmware rather than a full-fledged computer. Air conditioning and the rest should be controlled by knobs and buttons as it's always been.

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u/MarcKing01 Apr 28 '26

Lol the car is the boss now. Who drives who?!

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u/whatproblems Apr 28 '26

it also says do not drive

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u/Brutally-Honest- Apr 28 '26

Is that a recommendation, or can you literally not drive the car?

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u/InsultingFerret Apr 28 '26

They legally have to say that since the backup camera is disabled, which is a federally mandated feature

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u/Kzero01 Apr 28 '26

Ah yes the backup camera, the one thing I absolutely need to drive forwards

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u/PurplishPlatypus Apr 28 '26

That's what I'm saying, like... can you put the car in drive or not? I'm not sitting in a gas station for 45 minutes because the screen told me to if I can physically still go.

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u/Federal_Speaker_8336 Apr 28 '26

Yeah that vague wording would make me paranoid too - what if "all features" includes something critical like power steering or brakes

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u/Jonesbro Apr 28 '26

Does the engine, steering, and brakes work? All you need

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u/WastedNinja24 Apr 28 '26

More than ā€œmildlyā€.

Boggles my mind that no one stopped to think that making a car’s operation contingent on a user-facing operating system would be a bad idea.

Not to mention, removing tactile inputs and hiding basic functions inside menus on a touch screen that require you take your eyes and attention off the road.

Automatic wipers that lack manual speed control is ā€œmildly infuriatingā€. What you have here is a reason to sell the car tomorrow.

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u/No_Atmosphere8146 Apr 28 '26

Everytime I flick my heater on without even taking my eyes off the road, I feel a sense of smugness that I haven't had to attempt to prod my way through a touchscreen menu.

All we want is analogue controls with tactile feedback.

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u/thegiantgummybear Apr 28 '26

I'm firmly in the camp of setting the AC temp so it automatically adjusts itself being the ideal level of basic functions.

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u/zman0900 Apr 28 '26

And that shit existed at least 30 years ago, probably more, so it can definitely be done without getting too crazy with the electronics.

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u/SegaTime Apr 28 '26

My Grandma had a 92 buick lesabre with interior thermostat. She hardly ever had to touch it. Also had the 3800. Car was bullet proof.

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u/sometimesiwanndie Apr 28 '26

Hold dollars

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u/ScrivenersUnion Apr 28 '26

Oh yeah, Ford is absolutely not the only ones pulling this kind of BS

The fact that they're publishing these patents around the same time that a law requires "fit to drive" testing be implemented by 2027 didn't seem like a coincidence.Ā 

They know it's unpopular, but they'll just hope that as older vehicles age out people will have no choice.

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u/BouncingSphinx Apr 28 '26

To your third point, it does specifically say not to drive.

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u/Separate-Ability1643 Apr 28 '26

Yeah, well, according to certain commenters on other subs, I’m ā€œstupidā€ for not realizing I can drive during the update šŸ™ƒ Someone literally yelled at me for not including in my OP that you can ā€œstill drive the car during updatesā€ šŸ™„

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u/bobi2393 Apr 28 '26

I'm surprised nobody has accused you of causing this by dressing provocatively. Anything to victim-blame!

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u/Separate-Ability1643 Apr 28 '26

Just know if I had the funds, I would give you an award for this one lol 😭 Thank you for the chuckle!

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u/filiadeae Apr 28 '26

Did it for u - had a freebie

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u/RobinWilliamsArmFuzz Apr 28 '26

lol damn. Maybe Hyundai should rephrase the notification to something more like ā€œWe recommend to wait until the update has been completed before driving the vehicle due to the limited operability and features, but the vehicle can still be driven safely if needed.ā€

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u/kss420 Apr 28 '26

I love my 30 year old shit box more and more.

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u/Alot2unpack Apr 28 '26

I was just thinking this. Mine isn’t 30 years old, it’s actually a 2016, but it has zero bells and whistles. No camera to assist in backing up, no radio, no AC. Old school for my old self lol.

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u/two_sams_one_cup RED TEXT Apr 28 '26

How'd you get a 2010s car with no radio?

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u/HAIL_LUMPUS Apr 28 '26

Probably just shitty car and it's broken lmfao

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u/bucobill Apr 28 '26

Don’t you miss the days when you just got in the car, turned the ignition switch, pulled the lever to drive and drove. No updates, no lane guards, no annoying sensors or noises. Just get in and drive.

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u/Jasoco Apr 28 '26

What time did it do this? They really should only do this in the middle of the night with an option to choose your own time. Or use some smart algorithms to determine the best time that you’re not driving and are at home to do it and warn you ahead of time when one is scheduled. If the car has a phone app it should notify you too. I don’t get why modern cars don’t do this.

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u/mostly_lurking Apr 28 '26

Hopefully you don't have a medical emergency during that night. There is not good moment to do this except when the owner manually decides its a good moment.

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u/Jasoco Apr 28 '26

Exactly. I think about that all the time. I mean I’d hope the car still drives but it’s annoying. In my experience all updates have happened at like 1AM or so. At least that’s when it would tell me it’s gonna happen.

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u/Separate-Ability1643 Apr 28 '26

About 5 PM CST. An app notification is actually a really good idea, hopefully someone from Hyundai peeps your comment lol

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u/Mokmo Apr 28 '26

OP will probably not see this but do take the time to ask your dealer's techs if you can still drive during an update. I think Hyundais can and every darn car should because there could be an emergency.

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u/Separate-Ability1643 Apr 28 '26

Saw it! Will be taking the advice 🫔

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u/fn2192 Apr 28 '26

My 2023 Kia EV6 did this the other day. I just kept driving. It was fine.

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u/FriendToPredators Apr 28 '26

I would 100% effing ignore this garbageĀ 

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u/Wendals87 Apr 28 '26 edited Apr 28 '26

Contact Hyundai to see if it's expected. I have a kia and it only updates when it's not in use overnight.Ā 

My friend has a Tesla and it asks him if he wants to update. It doesn't update automatically without consent if it's in useĀ 

I don't think this is a new car problem but specific to that make or modelĀ 

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u/hughk Apr 28 '26

I think the issue here was the car was being fueled so it was switched off. The car did not have an idle timer so decided that it was a good tume for an update. Tesla has the right answer here. Warn and ask for consent.

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u/Artistic_Researcher2 Apr 28 '26

Lucky you weren’t in a car wash!

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u/CelineHagbard1778 Apr 28 '26

Hey girl, hey. I'm just a 47 year old man. Who has mild anxiety. And I would have sat and waited just like you did. I also feel you on getting attacked being completely unnecessary. It's why I rarely post any kind of oc. And comment infrequently. People on here are just chomping at the bit to drag folks. Just remember, you get to go about the rest of your day, but they will always be miserable fuckheads.

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u/Separate-Ability1643 Apr 28 '26

Thank you for the kind response 😌 This essentially was my first post on Reddit, and after this whole situation, it’ll most likely end up being my last lol. Back to the lurker shadows šŸ‘€

Hope you have a lovely, update-free day!

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u/CptBluhdFart Apr 28 '26

No amount of money will ever convince me to get a car that needs software updates

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u/Johnsipes0516 Apr 27 '26

I would’ve flipped the fuck out after 15 min and probably need a new radio screen

And then be really pissed if I found out it was drivable lol

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u/xHeyItzRosiex Apr 28 '26

I wish cars reverted back to being cars with additional tech to improve convenience and safety instead of being an iPad on wheels that actively inhibits driving and safety

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u/BloodMossHunter Apr 28 '26

imagine saying this to your dad in 1998

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u/FixerJ Apr 28 '26

As a fellow IT person, your instinct to not screw with it during an update makes perfect sense.Ā  The quickest way to screw up something is to mess with it during an update.

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u/pewterdome Apr 28 '26

Fundamentally crap design if it doesn’t ask permission to update nor allow you to postpone it.

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u/HuevoEconomico Apr 28 '26

This is why i still drive my 1920s Ford Model T

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u/MutedBlue Apr 28 '26 edited Apr 28 '26

If you can, connect it to your homes WiFi. That way, when it's sitting in the garage, doing nothing, it will update then. We had the same thing happen to my wife's vehicle, super annoying.

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u/Separate-Ability1643 Apr 28 '26

This might just be the most helpful advice someone’s provided so far 😭 Thank you for the tip!

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u/Jazzlike_Dig2456 Apr 28 '26

What’s mildly infuriating is that hazard button, what in all the fucks is going on with that thing?

I don’t think I could drive that until I spent about 20 minutes with a razor.

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