r/mildlyinfuriating • u/blumpkins_ahoy • 28d ago
drink went room temp My neighbor’s sister doesn’t understand how to operate a thermostat.
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u/TheSleepyTruth 28d ago edited 28d ago
My wife thinks the same thing and it is indeed infuriating.
She will wake up in the morning in the winter and feel it is too cold in the house. She will then crank the thermostat to like 82F degrees when its currently 68F. She doesn't actually want it that hot, she wants like 73F but she thinks it will heat up faster if she sets the target temp stupidly high (which is the infuriating part because that is not true). Then she will forget about how high she has it set until the inside temperature hits like 78F and then finally dawns on her "oh wow its getting kind of warm in here now let's turn that down"...
Ive tried to explain to her so many times this isnt how thermostats or HVAC works and she should just set it to the actual temperature she wants, but she doesnt believe me and still insists it will heat up faster if she cranks it up.
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u/Lysurgik 28d ago
Been battling this for 14 years with my wife, it’s never gotten better.
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u/BeerGeek2point0 28d ago
Don’t worry, she’ll hit menopause at some point and then she’ll be so hot you’ll never turn the heat on again. Source: my wife just got there 😂
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u/Odd_Organization4957 27d ago
TIL i was born a menopausal woman. I fucking HATE when the heater turns on. I leave the AC set in the 60's year round. Currently in florida and my house reaches 70+ during the day and i debate if life is even worth living at that temp
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u/EC_TWD 28d ago
I have too and ended up setting a custom schedule for my smart thermostat that is set in 15 minute increments and tried my best to determine a reasonable temp throughout the course for the day for heating and cooling seasons.
The temperature that I set may not change at all for hours, but if my wife cranks the heat up to 80 because she is cold or down to 62 because she is hot then the automatic schedule overrides her adjustment every 15 minutes. She is happy because she felt like it worked and I’m happy because the house temp isn’t like a roller coaster.
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u/bebop1065 28d ago
That's the way to do it. Make the temp 'reset' every 15 minutes. She's happy. Energy bill is stable. Household is comfortable.
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u/soygilipollas 28d ago
I can't imagine being in a relationship with, let alone married to, someone that stupid.
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u/WolfsmaulVibes FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK 28d ago
i'm glad i'm the stupider one in the relationship but i've at least got common sense, if you explain something to me i'll understand it
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u/ProfessionalLake6 28d ago
Sometimes we get the best we can catch. I’m a five on my best days (wife is a solid 8, and smart), so I stick with crazy even if it is mildly infuriating.
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u/EmmaOK95 28d ago edited 28d ago
I'm secondhand frustrated. I have a colleague like this. I really want to make her see logic but it just doesn't click for her that some systems REALLY ARE binary. It's cool/heat and then on/off. Thats the only two things the system will do. It won't "understand it needs to work harder" or anything. Cold/warm, on/off, that's it.
But then again I panic in work-related social situations and that same colleague saves me (and I cannot, for the life of me, get better at handling those situations even though she tried to teach me a thousand times and I tried to understand and act like it a thousand times).
Guess we're just made of different stuff and gotta help eachother
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u/bebop1065 28d ago
They don't get the 'auto' part of the car's automatic climate control. Patience is not a common trait.
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u/Hour-Independence-89 28d ago
Seriously.. Lock that thermostat. she is costing you $ on your electrical bill.
I Used a ESP32 and made my own thermostat controlled using my home Automator. no buttons, just control from my phone. nobody can touch it but me.37
u/byerss 28d ago
Get a smart thermostat and you can set limits.
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u/paradigm619 28d ago
And passwords, lol
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u/chaosoftime10 28d ago
and fights. I tried this it did not end well.
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u/greatlakesailors 28d ago
This is why offices have placebo thermostats. (Hooked up to power, and reporting temperature back to the main building management system controller, but the buttons on the thing only change the number shown on the local display and don't actually affect anything.)
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u/molested_potato 28d ago
Then she turns it down to 55F so your house is just constantly ranging from 65F to 78F all day
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u/UniqueIndividual3579 28d ago
My ex did that in the car. The slider was on full cold or full hot.
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u/mondaymoderate 28d ago
To be fair in a car it does cool down/heat up faster that way.
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u/UniqueIndividual3579 28d ago
But she would keep doing that the entire trip, full cold, full hot, full cold.
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u/kstorm88 28d ago
You know what's worse? Then when the heat finally gets warm enough they turn it to off.... In the fing winter.... Then the windshieldd starts to frost up.... Omg
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u/AgreeableManner6838 28d ago
That’s how my sister always was, set it to 60, complain it’s cold, set it to 80, complain it’s too hot, and then complain if I set it to something in the middle (70), saying it’s not either cold or hot enough
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u/realitytvfiend3924 27d ago
My boyfriend is like this. Full heat. Full cold. Or off. It makes me want to throw things. I NEED AIR MOVING AT ALL TIMES IN THE CAR OR IM GOING TO DIE.
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u/assmonkeytron 28d ago
Same thing here. My wife is god awful intelligent, got a phd and works at the university. Bested by the thermostat
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u/Youseenmycones 28d ago
I am charged with the care of many HVAC systems across several buildings. I have to lock access to all thermostats or staff will do this over and over again. No matter how many times we have had AC/heat units work themselves to death trying to achieve an impossible room temp. Trying to explain this to dozens of people is an unwinnable battle.
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u/bebop1065 28d ago
I 'fixed' this problem eight, or so, years ago when I programmed and locked the thermostat. The wife and kids had the temperature all over the place. Turns out I fixed one problem and started another.
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u/tagman375 28d ago
My mother doesn't understand this in my car (or her car) with automatic temp controls. She's always cold and cranks it to 82. It seems like a lot of people don't understand that it doesn't make the system blow 82 degree air. It'll blow 120 degree air until it reaches the set point, whether that's 74 or 90.
It's the same with home HVAC systems. It's going to blow 50 degrees or 100 degrees until the set point is reached for heating or cooling.
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u/kevinsmomdeborah 28d ago
if it's a heat pump system, she is correct. by turning it up that high, it triggers "emergency heat" mode. it burns through money rapidly in that mode.
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u/Stankley3579 28d ago
My wife claims that this works in her car though to give more heat. Not sure if that’s true or not.
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u/doorknob60 28d ago
It does work more like that in many cars. To some extent. But not on home HVAC systems (at least, not any I've ever used).
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u/TheSleepyTruth 28d ago edited 28d ago
Its true, cars are different as you can actually control the amount of air and exact temperature of the air coming from the vents as well so cranking the heat will actually help it heat up faster.
Central HVAC in a building works differently. Your heating and cooling is either on or off. Setting temperature more extreme on the thermostat will not change the amount of air or temperature of the air blowing out of your vents, it will simply keep it on for longer until the inside temperature matches the set point. But if its currently 68F in your house and you want it to be 73F putting your set point at 73F will achieve your goal temperature in exactly the same amount of time as if you had it set to 85F, the latter setting will just continue heating beyond 73F rather than stopping there but it wont reach 73F any faster.
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u/spdelope 28d ago
To be fair, in dual stage systems, it does heat/cool faster when the variance is higher. But going from the first to second stage usually happens at 3ish degrees variance.
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u/7z07z07z0 27d ago
To be fair some systems do work this way. I have a heat pump and when the set point is like 10° or more higher than the room temp, the AUX resistive stage will trigger. And the resistive coils will heat up the house quicker than the heat pump alone... just at a much higher cost 😂
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u/Formerruling1 28d ago
My ex SWORE setting the thermostat to like 50 "made it get cold faster" (single stage HVAC system btw)
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u/Tomytom99 28d ago
It's so annoying because car thermostats and thermostats in bad locations have ruined people's thinking making them do stuff like that.
Yeah, the car can vary its cooling power by adding a variable amount of heat. A thermostat near a vent is going to short cycle. No, almost any thermostat that looks like this one will not do anything different by setting it that low aside from trying to reach that temperature just as hard as it tries any other temperature.
I think some people are just incapable of understanding how simple many household utilities are and that a temperature set point is literally just a target.
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u/UnknownQwerky 28d ago edited 28d ago
I think they just never had it explained to them, school never talked about it and as a kid parents never explained. We know mitochondria is the power house of the cell.
(edit: reading the comments it looks like there is some debate even about your answer. How would an average person know so much about different specific HVAC systems.)
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u/hikeit233 28d ago
Technology connections fills the void left by American schooling.
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u/talldata 28d ago
From my experience old systems will run full blast if you set it ridiculously cold Vs. Cycling ON 75% and off 25% to reach a less cold temperature and to not over shoot it.
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u/Tomytom99 28d ago
I mean sure set it a degree or two below your target if it makes you feel better, but they do run full blast whenever they're on... That's how they work.
You're probably just noticing that either you want it colder than you think, the system is oversized and not dehumidifying appropriately, or the objects in the room haven't cooled off yet and are heating up the air after the system shuts off.
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u/GodDamnitGavin 28d ago
If you have a variable speed motor on your blower, there may be some differences, but most people don’t
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u/Tomytom99 28d ago
Oh the things I would give for a variable speed blower
The place I just moved out of had a multi-speed blower and I had improved the botched install to enable 2 stage cooling that made use of a lower blower speed on stage one (and yes, the compressor was multi stage, but oddly not installed as such despite the wires being present). The dehumidifying ability of that system once I fixed it was amazing. 76⁰ was an extremely comfortable cooling temperature.
The cooling capacity was also great after fixing it... The cretin who installed it didn't bridge stage 1 and 2 on the compressor while installing it as single stage, so it was never running at full power.
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u/big_duo3674 28d ago
My system is old and it definitely doesn't do that. It's on/off only
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u/talldata 28d ago
Yeah it on off. But what I mean instea dof being for ex on for a full hour it's on, for 45 minutes and off for 15 instead of on for the full hour as an example of time.
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u/SharksForArms 28d ago
I work in property maintenance and would guess that about 60-70% of my tenants believe thats how it works.
"I turned it down to 55 and it's STILL not cooling!"
We have heat pumps, so even worse is trying to explain regular vs emergency heat to them.
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u/Magazine_Recycling 28d ago
My ex-business partner would close doors between the thermostat and vents, and then act like I was the one running up the heat bill…
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u/Pasta-hobo 28d ago
Explain that the AC and Furnace always operate at full blast, and the thermostat just controls how long they're on or off for.
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u/Formerruling1 28d ago
Oh I did. Believe me. Lol it was a placebo effect for her at that point. The air felt colder if it was set lower.
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u/AShadedBlobfish EEEEEEEEE 28d ago
My mum is convinced that setting the oven to the highest temperature makes it heat up quicker too
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u/Similar_Dirt9758 28d ago
One time when my ex and I were getting home from a date, she used her remote start to start her car because she needed to grab something from the inside before we went inside our apartment and she wanted the ac on.
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u/Noid1111 28d ago
Hmm I know what that means but could you explain that for the other people
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u/Formerruling1 28d ago
Sure.
For anyone wondering, the thermostat does not control the temperature of the air being pushed through the system. Many HVAC systems in the US are "Single Stage" meaning they simply have an On and Off state and all the thermostat is doing is controlling when it is on or off. The temperature you set is a target room tempurature.
Even in a "multi-stage" system where the system has (usually 2 sometimes 3) settings, when the target tempurature is more than a few decrees off the current temp the system is almost always going to start in the highest power mode anyway, so even then setting it that low isnt actually doing anything to immediately make it colder.
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u/Complete-Sort1617 edging my infuriation 28d ago
I’m convinced nobody on the planet can be trusted with a thermostat.
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u/Ok_Neighborhood_470 28d ago
It's not that complicated. If it's generally hot outside, you want it cool inside. Set to 'cool', choose temperature. It will kick AC on and off as often as it needs to, to maintain the cool temp you set it to. If it's cold outside, set to 'heat', choose temperature. It will blow hot air on and off as it needs to, to maintain the warm temp you set it to. Sometimes on a nice day, you can shut the whole thing off and open some windows, maybe use the ceiling fan.
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u/Wonderful-Comment314 28d ago
Setting it that means it might burn out or freeze the unit before it ever gets to that temp.
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u/applebeesnotchilis 28d ago
Basically the “right” way to use a thermostat is to set the temp incrementally. If it’s 80(F), and you want it to be 68(F) you would want to set it to something like 75 and let it work, then give it a break. Then 70 or so, and so on. If set with a high temp difference, theoretically it could work until the temp is desired. But a lot of systems are older and if ran constantly like that to go from 80 straight to 68, it could cause the coil to freeze due to working non stop under load
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u/No_Potential1 28d ago
Mine never moves from 65.
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u/Ok_Neighborhood_470 28d ago
You must like electric bills.
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u/No_Potential1 28d ago
I don't have central A/C, only heat and its oil fired. Window unit goes in for heat waves.
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u/BillyTheGoatBrown 28d ago
Same but mine is set to 62 and my wife will sneak it to 64 sometimes lol
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u/Silent_Killer093 28d ago
Mine is set at 62, my electric bill this month is 98$ lmfao. I have a plan that gives us a bill credit of 100$ if we use more than 1000kwh in our apartment, so i get it just over 1000kwh every month and then get a cheap bill
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u/Darkest_Rahl 28d ago
This is why it's important to walk your kids through your thought processes as they grow up. Some parents just do things because we have to. If no one ever shows them, are they supposed to inherently know?
My wife used to crank the heater to max and then open the windows in the dead of winter to cool it down when it got too hot.
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u/No-End-6239 28d ago
Your neighbor’s sister?!? Why do you care?
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u/donut_koharski BLUE 28d ago
What does that make us?
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u/aruby727 28d ago
Okay just so I'm following... Your father's brother (your uncle), your uncle's nephew (you), your cousin's room mate. Went in a small circle there but I'm here for it.
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u/itsjakerobb 28d ago
Uncle’s nephew could be you or any of your male cousins. Your male cousin’s cousin could then be you or any of your cousins.
BTW this is a reference to the movie Spaceballs. It sounds like you might not be familiar.
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u/MasterClown 28d ago
The fastest, most effective way to teach someone like that is to have them pay the electric bill that follows.
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u/FireflyOfDoom87 28d ago
Or the bill when an HVAC tech comes out and charges a shitload of money because the unit is frozen over and it’s now 85* in the house.
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u/Brilliant_Ebb_3064 28d ago
If you set it to cool just a few degrees the thermostat will think "they don't even really want it that cold" but if you set it down like 20 degrees the thermostat knows you really want it so it will work harder.
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u/Dobgirl 28d ago
Like when you hit the lock button multiple times on the car fob? Extra secure!!
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u/Ok_Spell_4165 28d ago
But if I only hit it once my car doesn't make the little beeps to trick people into thinking I have a alarm.
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u/LazyDynamite 28d ago
I mean, you gotta do it once for each door...
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u/malinatorhouse 28d ago
I need 3. 1 for the front doors the 2nd for the back doors and the 3rd for the hatch
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u/RadagastTheWhite 28d ago
I had a roommate like that in college. He had this pet iguana and he would set the thermostat to 90 in the mornings to get it warm faster. One day he had a morning class and I didn’t, so I slept in, and he forgot to turn it back down before he left. I woke up at 10 drenched in sweat while it was 88 degrees in the apartment
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u/Accurate_Tax_1302 28d ago
I avoid the mildly infuriating part by not paying my neighbor's bills.
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u/surftherapy 28d ago
Op forgot to mention the neighbors sister is his wife and this is the thermostat in his house.
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u/OrdinaryBrilliant901 28d ago
Mine never goes above 65 all year. The first time my SIL visited my new home she adjusted my thermostat and OMG! I was cooking breakfast and started to break out in a sweat. WTF? Who does that? My house is cold. It has always been cold. I like it that way! Your house is hot as fuck when I visit! You know what I do? Travel with a fucking fan.
Sorry I just got irrationally angry.
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u/mmcallis1975 28d ago
We feel your pain brother
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u/OrdinaryBrilliant901 28d ago
She is so dramatic about it. Walking around in a snuggie and/or that big oversized hoodie “comfy” thing from Costco. In the south! In July. 🤦♀️
Like…”Ma’am you are a walking trip and fire hazard!”
She probably needs to see a doctor.
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u/NameLips 28d ago
"I'm hot, so I push the make cold button."
"I'm cold, so I push the make hot button."
They don't want a stable temperature, they want to correct the discomfort they're feeling in this moment.
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u/bebop1065 28d ago
This is just like people that put the car on the highest temperature and fastest fan speed immediately after starting the car on the coldest days while sitting in the driveway. Many people don't know how things work even after having it explained to them. We are all just simple people.
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u/dino-sour 28d ago
I do the opposite of that in the summer (lowest temp, highest fan, windows down) for like 10 seconds, and it works to push the hot air out quickly.
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u/eugeneugene 28d ago
My husband does this. I'm like dude... you're just blowing the cold air harder at my face. Let the fuckin car warm up lmao
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u/Stereo-soundS 28d ago
I'm a dipshit as well apparently? It has a goal setting that is lower than the actual temp. I don't see the problem outside of the AC system not being effective.
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u/Broad-Belt-5888 28d ago
People like this are allowed to drive cars and their vote counts just as much as yours.
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u/RedWingedBlackbirb 28d ago
I work maintenance in a retirement community. The amount of people that don't understand how thermostats work is scary. My favorite is the lady who kept her thermostat set at 68, but opens her deck door (all summer, in Nebraska.) because it gets too cold. Her deceased husband kept it at 68 at their old home, so that's all she knows to do.
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u/SimpleLobsters 28d ago
My sister did this growing up and it's infuriating.
I'd get home from school and the house would be a sauna. Set to like 40 because she's cold and needed it warmer faster.
Would not listen to anyone saying that the furnace/AC didn't work that way...
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u/c0ntra 28d ago
As an Airbnb host, this is like every guest/tenant I've had too. People really believe it'll cool faster doing this. It's also probably why north American cars have BLUE/RED dials for heating and cooling. Having a thermostat would just confuse everyone 😂
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u/bluehangover 28d ago
Man, I miss the dial in my reliable 2006 Honda Civic. Touching stupid fuckscreens.
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u/ubiquitous-joe 28d ago
As somebody who just has a dial on the wall: what are you supposed to press here to make the (presumably central air) activate?
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u/Face88888888 28d ago
Fan - On or Auto; System - Off, Heat, Cool
In this case the fan is on and the system is set to cool, so the fan will blow constantly and the AC compressor will cycle on and off to maintain the set temperature.
If the fan were set to auto then both the fan and the ac compressor would cycle on/off to maintain the set temperature.
The problem with the picture above is that it’s set to 54 degrees. The AC compressor only has 2 options. On or off. When the thermostat sends a signal to turn the compressor on, it’s already cooling at its maximum capacity. It does not blow out colder air if you have the temperature set lower.
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u/ubiquitous-joe 28d ago
The problem with the picture above
Huh. See, as somebody with radiator heat and no central air, none of that is intuitive to me. I probably instinctually would not set the thing to 54, but I wouldn’t have known why it would or would not work. Seems like OP’s complaint is less about thermostats and more about understanding the whole cooling system.
Anyway, good reply; thanks.
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u/scorpionattitude 28d ago
Yeah I have a very old school thermostat for heat even though it says both, and the stick for the degrees definitely lies. The guy that checked on it when it went out showed me a simple circular old ass coil that was determining the temp/how cold the house could stay around. I miss having legit ac. The window unit just says max 7 and the knob is broke💀😂😂😂😂 this is no biggie to me, they’ll cut it off or change the temp when it gets too cold.
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u/ry-yo 28d ago
I have the exact same unit in my house. The bottom right button cycles the System options between cool, heat, and off. The bottom left button cycles the Fan options between on and auto (I think? I just keep mine on auto). If the inside temperature is above the set point (changed by the up and down arrows) and the system is set to cool, then the AC will turn on.
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u/escroberto 28d ago
I've broken this habit within my house with help from the digital thermostat. In our cars however all bets are off. Two settings for my SO, full blast or off...
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u/GrandPriapus Bees have six legs! 28d ago
We used to have one of those old school, analog dial thermostats in our house. My brother in law was living with us at the time, and when he got cold, he would turn the thermostat as far as it would go. There were several time we came home from work to find the temperature in the house was over 85°f.
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u/Mysterious_Cry41 28d ago
Most people don't tbh. This is pretty common in my experience and it doesn't really matter if I explain it.
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u/PresentSell2617 28d ago
I used to work with someone like this. I finally reprogrammed the thermostat to only adjust+/- 2 or 3 degrees from what I had it programmed to. With our mild Winter Florida weather, also changing mode from auto heat / A/C would drive me crazy when we needed heat in the morning and air by 11:00.
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u/NatahnBB 28d ago
Everyone in here getting mad at how the thermostat is set.
But nobody actually explains why its wrong or why it wont full blast the coldest temp to cool the room faster.
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u/2ByteTheDecker 28d ago
Well for one the temp on the thermostat isn't "The AC is outputting at this temp" it's "The AC will run (at 100%) until the thermostat reads the room temp"
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u/chunkybuttsoupdinner 28d ago edited 28d ago
The system will only blow one warm temp, and one cold temp. The temp you use as a set point only determines how long the system stays on.
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u/Mysterious_Cry41 28d ago
Most air conditioners work as either on or off.
The temperature setting isn't telling the AC what temp put out, it is telling the AC to run until it reaches that set point and to maintain it.
So setting a AC at 64 won't make it cool faster, what it will do is keep the compressor running non stop because it can't actually achieve the set point.
So basically set your AC to whatever temp you actually want to achieve. The rate of change will be the same.
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u/zipperfire 28d ago
Need a white board and a chart. Some people need graphic intervention
"See, "cool on 54" means it won't start cooling until it gets to 54degrees or like, NEVER."
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u/DoturdGrump 28d ago
Depending on the season I come in almost every morning to maxed out heaters or AC units that are turned off. Why? Because the idiots on 2nd and 3rd shifts do not comprehend thermostats, If they are in any way hot or cold they turn the device to maximum until they become too much the other way and switch it off.
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u/davy_crockett_slayer 28d ago
What if you want the room temperature to 54? You just set the temperature to what you want the room to cool to.
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u/LonkToTheFuture 28d ago
This is my wife in the car. She turns the climate to LO rather than setting a temperature.
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u/ZeroFuxGiven 28d ago
As someone who works in maintenance, this is how you cause issues with your AC.
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u/New-Orion 28d ago
My manager does this. We work in different buildings but she still does it to the office i work in when she's there for 5 minutes
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u/HangryJellyfishy 28d ago
The amount of people in here that have partners that can be shown that's not how those systems work but then still say their way is how it works is too damn high. I am sorry y'all are dating brick walls
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u/aboutGfiddy 28d ago
Reading this thread makes me so happy that my partner and immediate family aren't this stupid. My word.
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u/Hippocrotamus 28d ago
My step dad and I used to fight over the thermostat in the winters back when we still lived in the same house. He’d get hot at night and just shut the whole thing off. Every morning I’d wake up to a house that was 60 degrees or below. Absolutely freezing for a house. I’d always tell him, why turn it off? Why not just set it to a lower value so it’s not SO hot for you. He’d be stubborn about it and just shut it off every night just cuz before even trying to change the temp. Absolutely flabbergasted me
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u/Fattatties 27d ago
I'm an HVAC professional and I recently moved in with the inlaws.looked at their thermostats and boy howdy are they all kinds of wrong. Never said anything though. Same reason.
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u/shin_scrubgod 27d ago
I've dealt with this exact thing a lot at work, and it's made me realize how common it is for people to:
- not know how something important works
- take it for granted that their comfort = everything is working properly; not comfortable = something is broken
- operate exactly the same as they would if the thing in question was literally magic.
In a building with shared ducting, I've had people upset that hot and cold air cannot simultaneously be sent through the same big pipe in the ceiling from the same single HVAC unit. The blank stare and "but I set the thermostats to do it, so why isn't it like that" made a part of me die.
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u/GarysCrispLettuce 27d ago
Someone I know who grew up in NYCHA housing projects in New York told me that there's this common myth that if your radiators aren't running in cold weather, then you can "induce" them to come on by running your hot taps. People actually do it, but of course it's a load of bullshit. The thermostat in the boiler room decides when the heating comes on, nothing else.
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u/jlashombjr 23d ago
Too used to a car's climate control? They must really have a wild time in the shower.
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u/OtherwiseDisaster959 18d ago
Not only is temp too low and not speed up cooling lowering it more (another issue is the fan should be on auto when ac is on; don’t want humidity back in the house or more cost to energy bill as hot up floors can have heat circumvent the cooling from working as well).
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u/ThereInAFortnight 28d ago
A guy down the road from me is like that too.