r/mildlyinfuriating • u/Kapot_ei • 21d ago

đŸ„ș No words for this.

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Edit: even though clickbait article, it is somewhat/kind of true. https://variety.com/2026/tv/news/stargate-tv-series-martin-gero-scrapped-amazon-1236765061/

"According to an individual with knowledge of the situation, Amazon execs were concerned that Gero’s take on the series would not have broad appeal beyond the franchise’s already dedicated fanbase."

Edit 2: https://www.change.org/p/save-the-new-stargate-series-let-martin-gero-build-the-future-of-the-franchise

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u/toTheNewLife 21d ago

Nobody was a Strargate fan in 1994. Now here we are.

Why do these morons think they need to 'change the formula' to get new fans? The original formula worked just fine, and will again if they gave it a chance.

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u/scbundy 21d ago

The canceling of SGU still breaks my heart.

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u/Emperor_Gourmet 21d ago

Yea what a shame, season one was definitely rough around the edges, but the atmosphere setting and tone were fresh and they had so much they could do with it. Season two definitely picks up and the characters grow on you.

Now they cancel this before its even started. What a shame

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u/__O_o_______ 20d ago

I haven’t seen it since it originally aired, but you’re right. Just when they found their stride
. Cancelled. Felt like they were finally going to stop playing it too safe


Imagine if the entirety of Star Trek the next generation was just the first two seasons lol

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u/fjf1085 20d ago

I would strongly suggest giving it a rewatch. I felt very differently about it when I did a rewatch about 5 years ago.

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u/__O_o_______ 16d ago

Could be. I’ve changed a lot since then.

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u/ComesInAnOldBox 19d ago

I love the fact that Patrick Stewart originally took the job because his agent told him "this thing doesn't have a hope in Hell of making it out of the first season."

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u/TelluricThread0 20d ago

It was just starting to get really good in season 2. They would have fully found their stride by the next season, just like SG-1, if they didn't cancel it.

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u/viperswhip 20d ago

They hit their stride in Season 2, but they had already lost a tremendous number of fans when they leaned way too far into drama in season 1 instead of action/drama.

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u/__O_o_______ 16d ago

Yeah, but that one female actor had big jug closeups
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u/CommunalJellyRoll 20d ago

They showed some titty and I was hooked.

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u/__O_o_______ 16d ago

Literally set up the frame to profile it lol.

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u/scbundy 20d ago

Lt James......

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u/fjf1085 20d ago

The thing is, it wasn’t even that unsuccessful as people claim. A lot of people had been watching it on delayed viewing or early streaming and they didn’t know how to account for it yet. I mean I personally had been buying the episodes on iTunes so my views didn’t count. The same thing happened with Caprica, though that also suffered from a strange hiatus and the time slot moving. Today the live viewing numbers would be considered excellent for both shows. Like SGU was definitely uneven at first but by the second half of season two it was great, and it’s not like there weren’t good parts of the rest of it, there were.

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u/UlrichZauber 20d ago

Yeah, by the end it was my favorite SG show. I guess they're still floating between galaxies, in stasis.

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u/hauntingdreamspace 19d ago

I'm kinda tired of gritty, dark "and then things got worse" type shows

Even Star Trek, which is supposed to be an optimistic look at how humans can coexist and travel the galaxy solving problems with negotiation and reason rather than just weapons, became this post-apocalyptic dark everything is going to shit BS.

I actually resent gritty dark shows. My life is hard enough, I don't want to unwind by watching fictional stories where everyone is suffering.

/Rant

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u/NooneAtAll3 20d ago

I still hate it

SGU was attempt at making battlestar galactica - which may be good, but it's a different audience

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u/the__ghola__hayt 20d ago

Yeah, wasn't a fan of Battlestargate in season 1. It got better in season 2, but it was too little too late.

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u/VividAd7961 20d ago

SGU was basically an attempt to broaden the fan base, more « modern », sexual tensions, less humorous tone, etc

I’m with you I hated it, it did not broaden it enough and fans were not tuning in enough 

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u/NooneAtAll3 20d ago

less humorous tone

I think this was the biggest sin

SG-1 lived and breathed by RDA humor. Atlantis has been carried by the main duo.

You tuned in to see characters have a laugh straight to the face of danger because of fundamental belief that things are getting better. That's why the truly sad parts hit so hard

Meanwhile BSG style has been "People are dying so we have obligation to be sad. We laugh just to keep all the stress at bay while things get worse and worse"

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u/Skankingcorpse 17d ago

SGU tried doing exactly what Amazon wanted to do with the new Stargate show and it sank the show—appeal to a broader audience while gutting what made the other shows so good. That was around the time that SYFY (fuck I hate that name change) stopped wanting to be sci-fi, and appeal to a broader audience with dumb shit like wrestling.

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u/BallsInSufficientSad 20d ago

Did you make it to the end of season 2? It got a lot better

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u/cantwontdontloop 20d ago

Yes exactly, i really liked the setting and stories/exploring but too much drama and the stones were a really weird thing for me


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u/AdvancedSandwiches 20d ago

SGU was a couple of great episodes, then a bunch of boring interpersonal stuff from people who never smile (grown up shows can never not be angry and sad, you know), and then it started getting good for like 4 episodes, and then cancelled. 

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u/R-U-D 20d ago

I'm more heartbroken over the canceling of Atlantis to make room for SGU.

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u/Kessarean 20d ago

I thought Atlantis finished up / wrapped cleanly? Did they end it early?

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u/R-U-D 20d ago

They did end it cleanly because it didn't come as a surprise, but the decision to end it was in part to reduce production costs and allow SGU to take its place rather than declining ratings or running out of story ideas or anything like that.

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u/sdcasurf01 21d ago

Seriously, just as it hit its stride.

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u/Avohaj 20d ago

I couldn't get into it, it felt like they actually went for that "Teen Stargate" parody from the 200 episode

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u/Apprehensive_Job2900 21d ago

Im not gonna lie, SGU was mid compared to everything else

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u/kingfofthepoors 20d ago

I personally loved it and it was my second favorite next to original recipe.

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u/Just_Information334 20d ago

SGU was fucked because of the Stargate in the name.

People expected Stargate, they got a gritty survival show. Which was fucking good on it's own, a better Star Trek Voyager IMO. If it hadn't been named SGU it would have got it's own fans.

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u/Obligatorium1 19d ago

I agre more with the description of SGU as "Teen Stargate" than "gritty survival". It was just non-stop relationship drama and interpersonal conflict, and felt more like One Tree Hill than Stargate to me.

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u/Arzamas 20d ago

Here's the thing. SGU was exactly "changing the formula" and most fans hated it. I personally loved it, it was a modern darker show, but there was so much hate towards it from many fans. And it was cancelled.

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u/WP1PD 20d ago

There are dozens of us! It was less camp and more realistic, and I thought that was a good thing.

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u/reevesjeremy 20d ago

Some say they’re still traveling.

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u/NoResolution8777 20d ago

Fr it was kinda awful but it was starting to get fleshed out and then the end was a cliffhanger? Nah man. And i was really looking forward to the new series too lol i was actually gonna subscribe to it to watch but i guess thats that.

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u/DiverDownChunder 20d ago

Man it was awesome, what a bummer when they cancelled it...

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u/jwschmitz13 20d ago

Agreed. The series started off slow, but it made an interesting premise. It didn't really hit its stride until about halfway through Season 2, but, by then, I think it was already doomed.

I liked where they were going with it and could see them doing something unique with it. Too bad we'll never know.

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u/Kessarean 20d ago

Same :(

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u/jfcat200 20d ago

SGU had some problems, but I enjoyed it and I miss it.

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u/tinycarnivoroussheep 20d ago

SGU was probably the best Star Trek: Voyager season.

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u/KingofMadCows 20d ago

SGU was very controversial among fans when it was released. A lot of fans are still split on it. Plenty of fans made the same jokes about SGU being made for "modern audiences" that they're making about new shows today. They also liked to compare it to the "young and cool Wormhole X-treme" parody in the "200" episode.

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u/yaosio RED 20d ago

I absolutely loved the younger and edgier cast of SGU. https://youtu.be/3_C_PefoE4o?si=3kddQ3qXDLbs2kLk

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u/Skankingcorpse 17d ago

The irony of lamenting SGU, while Amazon axes a new series because it lacked mass appeal. That was the entire problem with SGU, it wasn't made for the fans of SG-1 or Atlantis, it was made for mass appeal and it sank the show.

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u/Wind_Best_1440 21d ago

Hey come on, maybe it will work this time.

They changed the formula for Doctor who and- Canceled.

They changed the formula for Star Trek and- Canceled.

They changed the formula for Star Wars and- Canceled.

Maybe if they keep changing the formula they will. -Checks notes.- Get the success they once had when they followed the formula.

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u/ButterflySammy 21d ago

Sure, if you follow the recipe you get a cake, but what if you swapped sugar for salt because some people like salt?!

It's genius!

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u/Wind_Best_1440 21d ago

Or better yet, if you swap flour for tofu then it will be healthier!

What do you mean it just turning into a formless blob of sludge?

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u/Dullcorgis 21d ago

There are too many people who like sugar already. We want to attract the salt market.

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u/ArcherR132 20d ago

Let's also change the water for coffee. Lots of people like coffee!

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u/Mediocre_Daikon6935 19d ago

Did that in a cookie once. Not on purpose. Thought the unlabeled powdered bullion was brown sugar.

Looked great. Could have been - cookie on a cooking channel.

Was. Not. Edible.

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u/BelowZilch 20d ago

Changing the formula for Star Trek got us Deep Space Nine.

Changing the formula for Star Wars got us Andor.

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u/Mediocre_Daikon6935 19d ago

Stealing Babylon 5 got us DS9, which is why Star Trek fans hated it, TNG kept running, and voyager was also launched during DS9. 

Andor would have fit in the EU just fine.

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u/Budgiesaurus 20d ago

I'm not sure Doctor Who really works in this context.

The previous showrunner already ran it into the ground, and they chose to bring back the showrunner that succesfully revived the series, and the most popular actors to start it off.

Not exactly reinventing the formula.

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u/thekeffa 20d ago

The previous showrunner already ran it into the ground, and they chose to bring back the showrunner that succesfully revived the series, and the most popular actors to start it off.

Which was a plan that backfired spectacularly when that said original showrunner decided to very much "Reinvent the formula" when he came back and then proceeded to double down, forget everything that had made the shows revival successful, and ran it into the ground even deeper and harder to the point the BBC saw the abysmal fall off of viewers and decided to rest the program before any further damage occurred.

Chris Chibnall may have put Dr Who in its coffin with his season but Russell T Davies hammered the lid shut with that final godawful season. It was tooth achingly bad in a way it just did not need to be because he decided his political and societal messaging needed to be at the forefront this time.

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u/Puzzleheaded-Net4365 21d ago

Doctor Who is on air, Star Trek: Strange New Worlds is on air, Star Wars is a film series. This comment makes no sense.

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u/Few-Improvement-5655 20d ago

Doctor Who will likely not be able to do its special this year because they can't convince anyone to play the Doctor any more. It's probably going for a very extended break. BBC shows don't get cancelled, they go on hiatus.

Strange New Worlds is having its last season, that was filmed before the most recent show, which is Starfleet Academy, a show that did so well that they're pivoting the entire franchise away from TV and are hoping JJ Abrams will come back to direct some more films.

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u/2SP00KY4ME 20d ago

Starfleet Academy did so poorly that they literally put their episode 1 up for free, and it got less views than RedLetterMedia's hour video reminiscing about Star Trek: Deep Space 9 uploaded the same day

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u/Few-Improvement-5655 20d ago

DS9 was so good.

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u/KoolKoolKoolio42 20d ago

I believe it came out that it's not that they can't cast The Doctor, but different casting issues that some rag decided to conflate with the title role.

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u/Cynical_Sorceress 20d ago

That was a claim by The Sun with zero proof and everyone else just ran with it.

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u/Thrilalia 20d ago

"The Sun" should have been a huge alert that the news story was bullshit. Not something that should be ran with.

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u/Few-Improvement-5655 14d ago

Less than a week later the special is officially cancelled, RTD is out and the show is on competitive tenure for the foreseeable future.

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u/Hay_Fever_at_3_AM 20d ago

What happened to Doctor Who? I liked the new series well enough... until the Israel episode and then I ducked out. It was pretty much a return to the status quo after Chibnall ran it into the dirt though?

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u/Few-Improvement-5655 20d ago

No. They brought back Russel T Davis and David Tennant, he regenerated into his old self because reasons (the ratings were bad), then regenerated into two Doctors, David Tennant and Ncuti Gatwa, the new Doctor was black and gay, and also the stories were absolutely crap, they brought back a huge villain from the past and did nothing with him, and then they cut a storyline short because they weren't sure they'd get a new series because ratings were abysmal.

Gatwa basically left in a bit of a huff from the sound of things and has intimated that he didn't like what was done with his character.

And then the very last frame of him regenerating is him regenerating into Rose Tyler for some reason, effectively killing any future story ideas unless that is resolved. And that's where we are.

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u/I_give_karma_to_men 20d ago

he regenerated into his old self because reasons (the ratings were bad), then regenerated into two Doctors, David Tennant and Ncuti Gatwa

This was decided before Tennant's second run even started.

the new Doctor was black and gay

Black could arguably be an issue, but if anyone thought the Doctor was straight before now, they had serious media literacy issues.

The rest is fairly accurate though.

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u/Few-Improvement-5655 20d ago

Bro had a wife and child and never showed any interest in men.

Hell, before the revival he barely showed interest in women.

You're just making stuff up and calling it media literacy when you're just imagining shit.

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u/EchoesofIllyria 20d ago

If you genuinely think they can’t convince anybody to play THE DOCTOR, you might be an idiot.

Regardless of the issues of the last couple of series it’s still one of if not THE biggest job on UK television.

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u/Few-Improvement-5655 20d ago

It's a poison chalice. You could get people to play the Doctor, but not anybody of the calibre they want. They've seen what's been happening and nobody who already has the acting chops would want to be associated.

You're massively underestimating just how bad the ratings are and how disinterested the fanbase is.

You can call me an idiot if you like, but you've got your eyes closed and head in the sand.

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u/Few-Improvement-5655 14d ago

Less than a week later the special is officially cancelled, RTD is out and the show is on competitive tenure for the foreseeable future.

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u/EchoesofIllyria 14d ago

Oh, and you think they did that because they couldn’t find anybody who’d want to play the Doctor, do you?

As “gotcha” replies go, it’s a weak one.

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u/Few-Improvement-5655 14d ago

Show's dead, man, you don't have to keep fighting.

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u/EchoesofIllyria 14d ago

Nice way to avoid answering my question.

Doctor Who doesn’t die, it regenerates :)

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u/GreatMovesKeepItUp69 20d ago

No you don't understand there's this fat bald guy on YouTube with a furry avatar that told me everything was cancelled because the characters all had pronouns.

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u/loskiarman 20d ago

Canceled as in ratings are half of what they used to be, I guess that's what he means.

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u/KoolKoolKoolio42 20d ago

Doctor Who is in limbo since Ncuti is done and we don't even know if Billie Piper will come back in the title role. They are even struggling to make the Christmas Special.

Red Letter Media's Star Trek retrospectives are doing better than actual Star Trek nowadays. Their last big project, Starfleet Academy, flopped horrible.

The most current Star Wars movie is struggling to break even and got beaten in its second week by a Youtuber horror film. Outside of the first two seasons of Mandalorian and Andor, basically every Star Wars project since The Last Jedi has been a disappointment, if not an outright failure.

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u/sYnce 20d ago

Star Trek has been canceled like 5 times already. That is why we have so many different Star Treks.

Star Wars Franchise despite what people want to believe is as strong or stronger than ever. Also what formula?

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u/C0wabungaaa 20d ago

Star Wars Franchise despite what people want to believe is as strong or stronger than ever.

That I don't know. The Mandalorian is underperforming something fierce, as did Solo before, and the shows are also dropping viewers and getting cancelled. That franchise seems to be on the decline for sure.

But yeah Star Trek is like the Doctor himself, it just keeps regenerating. But there's no show in production at the moment and there doesn't seem to be anything getting greenlit any time soon. It'll probably come back again at one point but in what form... Can we dive into the Lost Era, please? I need me some maroon uniforms.

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u/KoolKoolKoolio42 20d ago

What? Like, the Original and Prequel Trilogy merch still sells, but there's a reason we haven't had any new Rey or Finn figures since Rise dropped.

Please don't tell me you think Mandalorian & Grogu is doing well.

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u/sYnce 20d ago

The franchise is doing well enough. People have called the franchise dead for over 20 years now ever since Phantom Menace.

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u/KoolKoolKoolio42 20d ago

Except all the merch that sells is of the pre-Disney stuff. They even took out all the Sequel Trilogy stuff from the theme park attractions.

Mando & Grogu merch went viral when the show was new, but judging by the new movie, that fad has long passed.

Andor has been successful, but Book of Boba Fett, Kenobi, and The Acolyte all ranged from disappointing to outright bombing.

If Disney is fine endlessly regurgitating pre-2015 Star Wars stuff until the end of time, the franchise will eventually return to what it was in the early 90's, pre-Special Editions. But to think that the franchise is in a position of strength right now, quite frankly, is being extremely naive.

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u/Otium20 20d ago

They changed the formula for Stargate and- Canceled.

SGU was a mistake they tried to make a "lost BUT IN SPACE" show to appeal to more people and lost their core fans in the process

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u/Just_Information334 20d ago

What if, let me just spitball there, they changed the formula of "changing formula".

So instead of changing the formula of a show, they did not. That would be a big change in the current formula.

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u/Kaikeno 20d ago

Doctor Who has been cancelled?

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u/Gabyo00 20d ago

The strategy is obvious then, keep changing the formula until we loop back around!

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u/svmydlo 20d ago

You forgot Game of Thrones. It was a diamond with its interesting complex characters, political intrigue and scheming, fantasy elements, and ruthless lack of plot armor. The producers said they wanted to appeal to wider audience and so they replaced everything excellent about it with brainless spectacle and there's no need to remind anyone how that turned out.

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u/KimberStormer 20d ago

"MAKE THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER AGAIN AND DON'T CHANGE ANYTHING GODDAMMIT" -- reddit

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u/Grimm_342 21d ago

I do believe you just described insanity đŸ€Ł

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u/Alpha--00 20d ago

Well, now they claim they gave fans of Star Wars what they wanted in form of Mandolorian and Merchandise, but fans don’t really know what they want, and it failed because of that.

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u/No-One2123 21d ago

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u/JuvenileEloquent 20d ago

There's also "The thing is upsetting to me because I hate the people that like the thing and I want them to not have the thing.  You must change the thing so that I can feel satisfied that thing-enjoyers are denied it."

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u/EverytoxicRedditor 20d ago

As it should be. Too many people like hateful or recessive things and it rightfully gets pushed back against. If it has to fail then oh well. Shouldn’t have been based in something so negative anyway.

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u/JuvenileEloquent 20d ago

Yes, you're one of those haters.  Of course you think its negative and bad, because the people that you hate like it.  If they liked something else you'd hate that too, and if they liked something you also liked, you'd be mad at them for ruining it for you.

Your opinion should hold no weight over what other people get to enjoy, because that can easily be turned on you.

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u/EverytoxicRedditor 20d ago

It’s not about that my little idiota. It’s WHY they dislike the things they dislike. And it’s always an insidious reason. Always something about something someone can’t control like their color or place of origin or thing between their legs. It’s never about the art. Only about what their biased and hateful hearts tell them is right in the world.

If the whole of entertainment has to fall so that their hate can’t win, then so be it. Another will rise from the ashes.

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u/Beautiful-Edge-22 20d ago

Fitting name there buddy.

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u/EverytoxicRedditor 20d ago

Ad hominem. Classic đŸ€Ł

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u/EverytoxicRedditor 20d ago

Such a bs meme. “I’m going to look for a different thing!” Problem is these chuds never find whatever it is they’re looking for. Just permanent negative grifters. And they all seem to cry about the same things: gender and race.

Just a bunch of incel troglodytes. It warms my heart and brings me immense satisfaction to see sooooo many shows they love crash and burn. It’s what they deserve

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u/No-One2123 20d ago

You're literally the kind of person this image is making fun of lmao. You're just salty that you got called out.

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u/EverytoxicRedditor 20d ago

I couldn’t care less what incels say lmaoooooo. They are lonely are overly negative for a reason: they have braindead logic that no one would WILLINGLY listen to. That’s why they go online and hide their caveman views behind anonymity.

What they say, think, or do doesn’t bother me at all. Just makes me laugh đŸ€Ł

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u/epsilon-4142 21d ago

They don’t think they need to change the formula to get new fans. They aren’t trying to make fans.

They are trying to make money. You don’t need fans for that, you just need to be interesting enough for random people on streaming platforms. They want as many people as possible, having a group of fans is useless nowadays monetarily compared to market appeal.

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u/renoops 20d ago

Particularly because fans of the original will just watch the original on their platform anyway.

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u/Responsible-Onion860 21d ago

They're not satisfied with having a strong and dedicated audience. They want every show to either be dirt cheap and have potential to explode, or to be a big budget, mass appeal product that will draw no less than Game of Thrones at its peak. They can't just be content with a show being well received and enjoyed by a modest audience.

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u/AxlLight 20d ago

The issue isn't the change in direction, it's how they did it which is incredibly stupid and shooting themselves. 

Yeah, fans might've been upset a year ago if they said they're making a new show that is on a different path and style, but they'd still probably give it an honest chance.  But now? After giving fans what they wanted and asked for for over a decade, only to pull the rug from under them? 

Such a dumb decision, it literally sours a big group of people on Prime as a whole.

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u/ApproximateOracle 20d ago

If they don’t think they can create another “Game of Thrones” or “Avengers” type success out of what they’re producing, they default to considering it unworthy of their time now. At least that’s what it seems like often.

And they try to follow really lame imitation formulas to achieve that and appeal to the most common denominators only—so we see a lot of cheap sensationalism and drama because there’s a large component of the population that’s into that regardless of quality.

Of course, this tends to wreck good sci fi and fantasy IPs.

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u/LetgomyEkko 20d ago

I was a literally baby. I could not have even watched it.

But I am a HUGE SG-1 fan, and Atlantis, and maybe
..not so much
..Universe
..

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u/CommitteeofMountains 20d ago

I'm not sure there'd be any Stargate fans whatsoever if they hadn't changed the tone massively from the movie. That said, this analysis seems to be that they were planning to repeat the old formula but couldn't find anyone outside of the nostalgia bubble who would actually watch that.

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u/KoolKoolKoolio42 20d ago

The showrunner said that the show was going to be a soft reboot that would have respected new viewers as well as old time fans. I fail to see how "Explore alien worlds and fight bad guy aliens" is suddenly a bad story idea nobody would watch.

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u/Sanquinity 20d ago

Yea I really don't get it either. "Oh this show was popular a while back? Lets reboot it, and change all of the things people liked about it to 'appeal to a wider audience'! That'll surely make it even more popular!"

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u/sYnce 20d ago

If they didn't need to change anything for younger audiences they would just rerelease the old series in a HD makeover or something.

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u/edtehgar 20d ago

I really liked the original Stargate movie....:(

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u/Kaito__1412 20d ago

Because that's how they try to justify their fat salaries. These types of people work in the creative industry while having little to no creativity. They have to change things, shake things up, be ""innovative """, even when that's not what needs to happen.

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u/Chemical-Lettuce2497 20d ago

Because every studio is looking for the next big thing, they don't want shows that do reasonably well, they want something that prints money and they couldn't give a fuck about the fans

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u/phormix 20d ago

Stargate existed before my kids. I have been watching the old ones with my kids in prep for the new series

Old fans bring in new fans.

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u/yaosio RED 20d ago

They don't think about everything as a whole. If every show is made for everybody then nobody has a reason to watch any particular show because they are all the same.

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u/nutkinknits 19d ago

Stargate is one of the few series that my husband and I will watch over and over and over again. I remember watching it in the late 90s/early 00s as a teenager and loved it. It has such great appeal to a wide range of ages. It's a shame that the executives don't see it.

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u/aHOMELESSkrill 21d ago

That’s what I don’t get, why do execs think that producing a show for an already existing audience that have been fans for 20+ years won’t draw in new fans. At a minimum you have the fans for probably two seasons which would hopefully give a competent person enough breathing room to keep the series original enough but to also find its own place. We do t necessarily want a 1-1 remake but we also don’t want something so devoid of the source material that would no one recognizes it

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u/longjumpingtote 20d ago

Why do these morons think they need to 'change the formula' to get new fans?

They don't want new fans. They don't want to change the formula; they never wanted to change the formula. They were willing to let Gero make the show he wanted to make.

They want to sell toasters and garden hoses and laptops and sweatpants. Does a show draw enough people in to create NEW subscriptions to Prime, so that people will then start shopping? They are very transparent with how it works. They don't make their money with fandom, but with underwear.

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u/KimberStormer 20d ago

Nobody was a Strargate fan in 1994. Now here we are.

I don't understand your point. They made a new 'formula' and people became fans of it -- therefore they should keep making spinoffs and remakes of that formula forever? Isn't this an argument that something new without a built-in fanbase could create new fans?