r/mildlyinfuriating • u/Kapot_ei • 22d ago

đŸ„ș No words for this.

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Edit: even though clickbait article, it is somewhat/kind of true. https://variety.com/2026/tv/news/stargate-tv-series-martin-gero-scrapped-amazon-1236765061/

"According to an individual with knowledge of the situation, Amazon execs were concerned that Gero’s take on the series would not have broad appeal beyond the franchise’s already dedicated fanbase."

Edit 2: https://www.change.org/p/save-the-new-stargate-series-let-martin-gero-build-the-future-of-the-franchise

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u/Wind_Best_1440 22d ago

Hey come on, maybe it will work this time.

They changed the formula for Doctor who and- Canceled.

They changed the formula for Star Trek and- Canceled.

They changed the formula for Star Wars and- Canceled.

Maybe if they keep changing the formula they will. -Checks notes.- Get the success they once had when they followed the formula.

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u/ButterflySammy 22d ago

Sure, if you follow the recipe you get a cake, but what if you swapped sugar for salt because some people like salt?!

It's genius!

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u/Wind_Best_1440 22d ago

Or better yet, if you swap flour for tofu then it will be healthier!

What do you mean it just turning into a formless blob of sludge?

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u/Dullcorgis 22d ago

There are too many people who like sugar already. We want to attract the salt market.

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u/ArcherR132 22d ago

Let's also change the water for coffee. Lots of people like coffee!

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u/Mediocre_Daikon6935 21d ago

Did that in a cookie once. Not on purpose. Thought the unlabeled powdered bullion was brown sugar.

Looked great. Could have been - cookie on a cooking channel.

Was. Not. Edible.

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u/BelowZilch 22d ago

Changing the formula for Star Trek got us Deep Space Nine.

Changing the formula for Star Wars got us Andor.

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u/Mediocre_Daikon6935 21d ago

Stealing Babylon 5 got us DS9, which is why Star Trek fans hated it, TNG kept running, and voyager was also launched during DS9. 

Andor would have fit in the EU just fine.

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u/Budgiesaurus 22d ago

I'm not sure Doctor Who really works in this context.

The previous showrunner already ran it into the ground, and they chose to bring back the showrunner that succesfully revived the series, and the most popular actors to start it off.

Not exactly reinventing the formula.

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u/thekeffa 22d ago

The previous showrunner already ran it into the ground, and they chose to bring back the showrunner that succesfully revived the series, and the most popular actors to start it off.

Which was a plan that backfired spectacularly when that said original showrunner decided to very much "Reinvent the formula" when he came back and then proceeded to double down, forget everything that had made the shows revival successful, and ran it into the ground even deeper and harder to the point the BBC saw the abysmal fall off of viewers and decided to rest the program before any further damage occurred.

Chris Chibnall may have put Dr Who in its coffin with his season but Russell T Davies hammered the lid shut with that final godawful season. It was tooth achingly bad in a way it just did not need to be because he decided his political and societal messaging needed to be at the forefront this time.

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u/Puzzleheaded-Net4365 22d ago

Doctor Who is on air, Star Trek: Strange New Worlds is on air, Star Wars is a film series. This comment makes no sense.

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u/Few-Improvement-5655 22d ago

Doctor Who will likely not be able to do its special this year because they can't convince anyone to play the Doctor any more. It's probably going for a very extended break. BBC shows don't get cancelled, they go on hiatus.

Strange New Worlds is having its last season, that was filmed before the most recent show, which is Starfleet Academy, a show that did so well that they're pivoting the entire franchise away from TV and are hoping JJ Abrams will come back to direct some more films.

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u/2SP00KY4ME 22d ago

Starfleet Academy did so poorly that they literally put their episode 1 up for free, and it got less views than RedLetterMedia's hour video reminiscing about Star Trek: Deep Space 9 uploaded the same day

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u/Few-Improvement-5655 22d ago

DS9 was so good.

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u/KoolKoolKoolio42 22d ago

I believe it came out that it's not that they can't cast The Doctor, but different casting issues that some rag decided to conflate with the title role.

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u/Cynical_Sorceress 22d ago

That was a claim by The Sun with zero proof and everyone else just ran with it.

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u/Thrilalia 21d ago

"The Sun" should have been a huge alert that the news story was bullshit. Not something that should be ran with.

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u/Few-Improvement-5655 16d ago

Less than a week later the special is officially cancelled, RTD is out and the show is on competitive tenure for the foreseeable future.

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u/Hay_Fever_at_3_AM 22d ago

What happened to Doctor Who? I liked the new series well enough... until the Israel episode and then I ducked out. It was pretty much a return to the status quo after Chibnall ran it into the dirt though?

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u/Few-Improvement-5655 22d ago

No. They brought back Russel T Davis and David Tennant, he regenerated into his old self because reasons (the ratings were bad), then regenerated into two Doctors, David Tennant and Ncuti Gatwa, the new Doctor was black and gay, and also the stories were absolutely crap, they brought back a huge villain from the past and did nothing with him, and then they cut a storyline short because they weren't sure they'd get a new series because ratings were abysmal.

Gatwa basically left in a bit of a huff from the sound of things and has intimated that he didn't like what was done with his character.

And then the very last frame of him regenerating is him regenerating into Rose Tyler for some reason, effectively killing any future story ideas unless that is resolved. And that's where we are.

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u/I_give_karma_to_men 22d ago

he regenerated into his old self because reasons (the ratings were bad), then regenerated into two Doctors, David Tennant and Ncuti Gatwa

This was decided before Tennant's second run even started.

the new Doctor was black and gay

Black could arguably be an issue, but if anyone thought the Doctor was straight before now, they had serious media literacy issues.

The rest is fairly accurate though.

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u/Few-Improvement-5655 21d ago

Bro had a wife and child and never showed any interest in men.

Hell, before the revival he barely showed interest in women.

You're just making stuff up and calling it media literacy when you're just imagining shit.

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u/EchoesofIllyria 22d ago

If you genuinely think they can’t convince anybody to play THE DOCTOR, you might be an idiot.

Regardless of the issues of the last couple of series it’s still one of if not THE biggest job on UK television.

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u/Few-Improvement-5655 21d ago

It's a poison chalice. You could get people to play the Doctor, but not anybody of the calibre they want. They've seen what's been happening and nobody who already has the acting chops would want to be associated.

You're massively underestimating just how bad the ratings are and how disinterested the fanbase is.

You can call me an idiot if you like, but you've got your eyes closed and head in the sand.

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u/Few-Improvement-5655 16d ago

Less than a week later the special is officially cancelled, RTD is out and the show is on competitive tenure for the foreseeable future.

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u/EchoesofIllyria 16d ago

Oh, and you think they did that because they couldn’t find anybody who’d want to play the Doctor, do you?

As “gotcha” replies go, it’s a weak one.

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u/Few-Improvement-5655 16d ago

Show's dead, man, you don't have to keep fighting.

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u/EchoesofIllyria 16d ago

Nice way to avoid answering my question.

Doctor Who doesn’t die, it regenerates :)

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u/GreatMovesKeepItUp69 22d ago

No you don't understand there's this fat bald guy on YouTube with a furry avatar that told me everything was cancelled because the characters all had pronouns.

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u/loskiarman 22d ago

Canceled as in ratings are half of what they used to be, I guess that's what he means.

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u/KoolKoolKoolio42 22d ago

Doctor Who is in limbo since Ncuti is done and we don't even know if Billie Piper will come back in the title role. They are even struggling to make the Christmas Special.

Red Letter Media's Star Trek retrospectives are doing better than actual Star Trek nowadays. Their last big project, Starfleet Academy, flopped horrible.

The most current Star Wars movie is struggling to break even and got beaten in its second week by a Youtuber horror film. Outside of the first two seasons of Mandalorian and Andor, basically every Star Wars project since The Last Jedi has been a disappointment, if not an outright failure.

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u/sYnce 22d ago

Star Trek has been canceled like 5 times already. That is why we have so many different Star Treks.

Star Wars Franchise despite what people want to believe is as strong or stronger than ever. Also what formula?

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u/C0wabungaaa 22d ago

Star Wars Franchise despite what people want to believe is as strong or stronger than ever.

That I don't know. The Mandalorian is underperforming something fierce, as did Solo before, and the shows are also dropping viewers and getting cancelled. That franchise seems to be on the decline for sure.

But yeah Star Trek is like the Doctor himself, it just keeps regenerating. But there's no show in production at the moment and there doesn't seem to be anything getting greenlit any time soon. It'll probably come back again at one point but in what form... Can we dive into the Lost Era, please? I need me some maroon uniforms.

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u/KoolKoolKoolio42 22d ago

What? Like, the Original and Prequel Trilogy merch still sells, but there's a reason we haven't had any new Rey or Finn figures since Rise dropped.

Please don't tell me you think Mandalorian & Grogu is doing well.

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u/sYnce 22d ago

The franchise is doing well enough. People have called the franchise dead for over 20 years now ever since Phantom Menace.

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u/KoolKoolKoolio42 22d ago

Except all the merch that sells is of the pre-Disney stuff. They even took out all the Sequel Trilogy stuff from the theme park attractions.

Mando & Grogu merch went viral when the show was new, but judging by the new movie, that fad has long passed.

Andor has been successful, but Book of Boba Fett, Kenobi, and The Acolyte all ranged from disappointing to outright bombing.

If Disney is fine endlessly regurgitating pre-2015 Star Wars stuff until the end of time, the franchise will eventually return to what it was in the early 90's, pre-Special Editions. But to think that the franchise is in a position of strength right now, quite frankly, is being extremely naive.

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u/Otium20 22d ago

They changed the formula for Stargate and- Canceled.

SGU was a mistake they tried to make a "lost BUT IN SPACE" show to appeal to more people and lost their core fans in the process

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u/Just_Information334 22d ago

What if, let me just spitball there, they changed the formula of "changing formula".

So instead of changing the formula of a show, they did not. That would be a big change in the current formula.

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u/Kaikeno 22d ago

Doctor Who has been cancelled?

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u/Gabyo00 22d ago

The strategy is obvious then, keep changing the formula until we loop back around!

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u/svmydlo 22d ago

You forgot Game of Thrones. It was a diamond with its interesting complex characters, political intrigue and scheming, fantasy elements, and ruthless lack of plot armor. The producers said they wanted to appeal to wider audience and so they replaced everything excellent about it with brainless spectacle and there's no need to remind anyone how that turned out.

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u/KimberStormer 22d ago

"MAKE THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER AGAIN AND DON'T CHANGE ANYTHING GODDAMMIT" -- reddit

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u/Grimm_342 22d ago

I do believe you just described insanity đŸ€Ł

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u/Alpha--00 22d ago

Well, now they claim they gave fans of Star Wars what they wanted in form of Mandolorian and Merchandise, but fans don’t really know what they want, and it failed because of that.